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Tela Vasir or no sale.

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Robosexual wrote...

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People died, so how was that not a threat? A farmer in your face telling you what they will do is not an enemy on the run.


What? Re-read what you quoted, no where does it say a famer in their face telling them what they will do. Actually defend your argument, don't try making things up and hoping that everyone forgets how to view previous pages.

Seriously. Actually learn the situation and then come back. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

How many war crimes do you actually know? The given situation is not a war crime.


To be clear, willfully shooting civilians is not a warcrime?

When your life is in danger, no it's not. 

Not even a proper response to what was given.


Again, actually try to defend your argument please.

Translation: I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'll continue to force my morals onto others and continue to say that they are in the wrong when clearly I don't know what I'm talking about.

The only thing that is insulted here is your credibility, which was already null to begin with.


Only thing? So I wasn't actually "throwing insults" then I take it, and your previous post was a lie?

I don't have to be insulted for it to be an insult. Learn the definitions of words as well. Seriously, do you even have a clue what you are saying, or are you just disagreeing to disagree? 

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No love for Javik. The guy's worse than a whole night of listening to emo music. He's no Renegade. He's a jaded Paragon.

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Mr.House wrote...

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The only thing Sr2 improved was weapons.

And sheilding, stealth capabilities, a bigger tantalus drive, probes, a sceince lab to further reseach and apply uprade. Various crew comforts as well but this wasn't strickly intended to be a military vessel as far as I know.

Funny enough, the drive core is bigger in ME.


The codex, and thus, the lore states otherwise. The ME2 core is nearly twice as large. Like it or not, it's fact.

The core in ME says otherwise. Compare them both, the core is much bigger. The lore says otherwise is an error when what is showen does not mention what the game tells you, hardly a first in the ME series.


Everyone states that the core in ME2-ME3 is twice as large. Repeatedly. It's more than an error. EDI even says why the SR-2 has a larger core.

And analyzing them, they really do seem much different. The core in ME1 really is not as large as the entire chamber in ME2. I'm disagreeing with you based on the fact that the lore contradicts you, and I don't see how the core in ME1 is larger based on my own personal observation. 

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 06 novembre 2013 - 04:09 .


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dreamgazer wrote...

Tela Vasir or no sale.


Why not. I'll also take the Shadow Broker himself.

And the Salarian enforcer for him.

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I thought that the core was actually three times as large and that the ship was twice as large.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
That still doesn't make logical sense. The CIC is one of the most sensitive areas of the ship, as well holding the majority of the crew (not just the squad). It's where the majority of the ships systems are, and where the majority of the control of the ship is held from. Also, look at where the majority of the crew is at. Most are on the CIC. As well, if you put it down on the crew deck, the crew from both engineering and the CIC have to go to the crew deck to get their weapons... which leaves the vital area's of the CIC and bridge undefended, and the same with engineering. You could make an argument for the AI core being vital, but I'd say you don't need EDI to fly the Normandy.

I'd say EDI makes all the difference and her core is down on the crew deck, you can get her to lock down the system making the actual importance of maintaining physical control of the CIC less of problem (remember CAT6 had to shut down EDI before they could take the ship), while the armed crew are in a better position to be deployed towards either the CIC or engineering depending on where the boarding takes place. Hot bunking is still the method of operation if I recall correctly you'll have as many people on duty in the CIC as off in the crew quarters so you're not short on manpower. Arming all three decks is still a problem no matter where you put the armory.

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Xilizhra wrote...

The funny thing is that you don't need to be a hero to see that someone else is the villain. I myself have never claimed the title.

You have. You've also claimed the title of inherent moral superiority on the basis of your heroism and virtue.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

The funny thing is that you don't need to be a hero to see that someone else is the villain. I myself have never claimed the title.

You have. You've also claimed the title of inherent moral superiority on the basis of your heroism and virtue.



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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
The only thing Sr2 improved was weapons.

And sheilding, stealth capabilities, a bigger tantalus drive, probes, a sceince lab to further reseach and apply uprade. Various crew comforts as well but this wasn't strickly intended to be a military vessel as far as I know.

Funny enough, the drive core is bigger in ME.


The codex, and thus, the lore states otherwise. The ME2 core is nearly twice as large. Like it or not, it's fact.

The core in ME says otherwise. Compare them both, the core is much bigger. The lore says otherwise is an error when what is showen does not mention what the game tells you, hardly a first in the ME series.


Everyone states that the core in ME2-ME3 is twice as large. Repeatedly. It's more than an error. EDI even says why the SR-2 has a larger core.

And analyzing them, they really do seem much different. The core in ME1 really is not as large as the entire chamber in ME2. I'm disagreeing with you based on the fact that the lore contradicts you, and I don't see how the core in ME1 is larger based on my own personal observation. 

If what is told does not match up to what is seen, there is an issue, this is also not the first time this has happen in the ME series regardless of the game.

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There were a couple of on-topic posts that shouldn't get lost in the shuffle, so I'll address them.

@DuskWanderer:

Upthread, I suggested that the two-year period between ME1 and ME2 should have been exploited to give Ashley and/or Kaiden some reason to hate Cerberus. If two years is enough time for Garrus to reinvent himself as a space age Rorschach, it should be enough time to create some plausible backstory as to why the VS is so distrustful of Cerberus.

I'm also mostly agreed that Liara could have been largely dropped. At the very least, Liara and Shiala could have been condensed into one character. Since Shiala has in fact collaborated with Saren and Benezia, there would have been more opportunity to play up the "Can she be trusted?" angle that came to nothing in ME1.

@Dean_the_Young:

I'd suggest that many (not all) of the problems with recurring characters and the save import system resulted not just from the mere fact of recurring characters, but that in combination with the series' need to give us epic, world-changing decisions. ME1's cast was mostly a group of unlikely heroes: Garrus is just an ex-cop, Tali and Liara have almost no combat experience between them, etc. Unlike Ron Burgundy, they aren't Big Deals (and no, their apartments don't smell of rich mahogany).

The need to reintegrate these characters into future installments, along with the need for those future installments to be about Shepard resolving every major political conflict in the galaxy, meant that these characters needed to be elevated to Big Deals, simply so that they could also play a major role in these world-shaping events. Thus, Tali becomes an admiral, Garrus has some kind of nebulous big role in the Turian military.

Related to this, there's also the transition in ME2 to a larger than life cast. You have the Galaxy's Baddest Biotic, the Genetically Perfect Woman, the Genetically Perfect Krogan, the Galaxy's Deadliest Assassin, etc. Tali and Garrus had to be re-worked just to keep up (hence Archangel, and Tali's sudden status as the greatest technical expert ever).

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tali: singing in the citadel dlc, i mean seriously that was cheesey and disrespectful in my eyes. felt like they made a joke of her and i would have cut that out.

ashley: me3 she was flat and had no real substance to her character. where is the conversation? oh wait kaiden took all of it. it would have been nice to talk to both of them with the dialouge wheel instead of autodialouge once they join you in the normandy. a bit of info about what she had been up too during her time without shep

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Mr.House wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
The only thing Sr2 improved was weapons.

And sheilding, stealth capabilities, a bigger tantalus drive, probes, a sceince lab to further reseach and apply uprade. Various crew comforts as well but this wasn't strickly intended to be a military vessel as far as I know.

Funny enough, the drive core is bigger in ME.


The codex, and thus, the lore states otherwise. The ME2 core is nearly twice as large. Like it or not, it's fact.

The core in ME says otherwise. Compare them both, the core is much bigger. The lore says otherwise is an error when what is showen does not mention what the game tells you, hardly a first in the ME series.


Everyone states that the core in ME2-ME3 is twice as large. Repeatedly. It's more than an error. EDI even says why the SR-2 has a larger core.

And analyzing them, they really do seem much different. The core in ME1 really is not as large as the entire chamber in ME2. I'm disagreeing with you based on the fact that the lore contradicts you, and I don't see how the core in ME1 is larger based on my own personal observation. 

If what is told does not match up to what is seen, there is an issue, this is also not the first time this has happen in the ME series regardless of the game.


In that case, I'm going to go with what the lore and characters tell me repeatedly: That the SR-2's Drive Core is larger and more powerful and more advanced than the SR-1's.

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LOL.

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But yeah: camera angles, lighting, and perspective make this a weird thing to call. 

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Is there any chance you guys are going to convince the other of anything? I mean, an actual real chance? Because if not, you should just cut to the chase, tell them to **** off and die, etc.. It's so much simpler that way. :)

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StreetMagic wrote...

Is there any chance you guys are going to convince the other of anything? I mean, an actual real chance? Because if not, you should just cut to the chase, tell them to **** off and die, etc.. It's so much simpler that way. :)


Do you not understand the concept of free entertainment, Magic?

(... grab some popcorn.)

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dreamgazer wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Is there any chance you guys are going to convince the other of anything? I mean, an actual real chance? Because if not, you should just cut to the chase, tell them to **** off and die, etc.. It's so much simpler that way. :)


Do you not understand the concept of free entertainment, Magic?

(... grab some popcorn.)


I'm finishing up Walking Dead at the same time. I guess I should count myself fortunate? Entertainment everywhere.

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Miranda - Have her story more involved with Cerberus rather than her sister... Either maybe taking over Cerberus and have Jacob involved too, his content felt thin as well.

Thane - I feel like he should've gone out with more of a bang and had it involve Kolyat to some degree.

Really that's about it I suppose... Maybe have Zaeed more involved, but I was content with everyone else.

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Tali- Get rid of stock photo, see her skin and face during love scene

Miranda- Get rid of that stupid bra and make her a party member in ME3

Javik- A side mission to Ilos

Thane- Not dying to Kai Leng

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I threw all of the non-DLC characters out the airlock to end the waifu wars, brought Aria, Bray, Kal'Reegar (who wasn't dead until AFTER Rannoch - so if you recruit him BEFORE he doesn't go to Palaven :P ), and we'll do a plot rez of Tela Vasir. Let's bring on Patriarch. EDI: you don't get your sexbot.

That was why Miranda was gone. That was why Liara was gone. That was why Ashley, Kaidan, Tali, Jack, and everyone else were gone. In the interest of fairness!!!!!!

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I threw all of the non-DLC characters out the airlock to end the waifu wars, brought Aria, Bray, Kal'Reegar (who wasn't dead until AFTER Rannoch - so if you recruit him BEFORE he doesn't go to Palaven :P ), and we'll do a plot rez of Tela Vasir. Let's bring on Patriarch. EDI: you don't get your sexbot.

That was why Miranda was gone. That was why Liara was gone. That was why Ashley, Kaidan, Tali, Jack, and everyone else were gone. In the interest of fairness!!!!!!

I will accept this so long as Corporal Toombs makes a comeback

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Mr.House wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
The only thing Sr2 improved was weapons.

And sheilding, stealth capabilities, a bigger tantalus drive, probes, a sceince lab to further reseach and apply uprade. Various crew comforts as well but this wasn't strickly intended to be a military vessel as far as I know.

Funny enough, the drive core is bigger in ME.


My car engine is smaller than my brother's was in 1970 and it has three times the horsepower.

You missed the point. ME2 says the drive core is bigger, when it in fact is not bigger. I never said the core is more powerful, I said it is bigger which makes the whole "it's bigger in ME2" false.


I think people are getting a bit too caught up in some of the sense-of-scale problems inherent with Mass Effect. Take a look at the SR-1 and 2 interiors. The SR-1 doesn't look any smaller inside, and in fact looks bigger in some parts than the SR-2. Then there's some of the ways both ships are shrunken internally. The walkway between the bridge and the CIC is much shorter than it should be, the airlock's exterior door extends further than what we see from the window on the bridge, etc.. Heck, from the outside, it doesn't look like 3 people can even fit inside of a Mako.

Also, what we see of the Tantalus drive in the SR-2 is not likely the entirety of the mechanism (Ken Donnelly is somewhere in an access duct installing the thermal pipe, for instance), plus, the "core" could simply be the containment and the fuel it houses, rather than the entire drive. If the SR-2 uses larger amounts of eezo than the SR-1, then its core is bigger, as it contains more fuel.

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changes to my faves....

the only thing i would change about Kaidan is finding out what he did in the two gap between ME1 and ME2. maybe when talking to Anderson he could say something " Alenko has been doing some classified work. He has also been Training biotic soliders and there are roumors among the concil that he maybe be nomitated to be a specture." and if shepard romanced him in ME1 then maybe a line like." since the normandy attack, he's been throwing himself into his work."

that sort of thing.

and With Steve, i think have him introduced ealier in the sersis and move the sence where he listions to the robert message away form the shuttle bay.to somewhere else. maybe walk in, have talk to james and ask if he has seen steve. James could say he saw steve head to life support room, then once shepard is there, have the convestion.
it just doesn't feel right in the shuttle bay.

Jack: I would give her a differnat mission in ME3 I don't know what. but I would incude her in a differnt way. maybe have her as part of a pirate ship fighting agenst a cerbirs ship?

Mirianda: hum... I would keep the subplot about her sister, but maybe have Miri not know that Oriana was taken by her dad, have her come to shepard for help agenst a Cerbirs lab that has some concetion to the reapers, then once on the base, have a message form her sister trying to warn her, .. then i don't know. ..

that's all i can think of