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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

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I believe you did, and most people reading back through would, as well. I don't care much, either way. If that's not what you were saying, then there was no reason to question me in the first place. As I said, it honestly doesn't bother me what your opinion is.

I understand that you are arguing for the sake of arguing, and I won't lie, I find it fun, too! But you seemed to be more reasonable than your average bear (at first) so I tried to explain myself. You weren't up for having any kind of debate, and you obviously still aren't, so that's fair. I'm pretty happy with the idea of a sexy tattoo'd Miranda, and you won't have any luck convincing me my tastes are wrong, but you can keep trying, if you really want. ;)


Elcor, when good things exist, it's because people like me make them and have standards for them. The standards I follow would be true whether I believed in them or not.

True for some other people, not all.


I know. They're true, because of me.

Do tell me, then, what source this truth springs from, for which you are the avatar? The real David could stay internally consistent.

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Xilizhra wrote...

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Angry_Elcor wrote...

I believe you did, and most people reading back through would, as well. I don't care much, either way. If that's not what you were saying, then there was no reason to question me in the first place. As I said, it honestly doesn't bother me what your opinion is.

I understand that you are arguing for the sake of arguing, and I won't lie, I find it fun, too! But you seemed to be more reasonable than your average bear (at first) so I tried to explain myself. You weren't up for having any kind of debate, and you obviously still aren't, so that's fair. I'm pretty happy with the idea of a sexy tattoo'd Miranda, and you won't have any luck convincing me my tastes are wrong, but you can keep trying, if you really want. ;)


Elcor, when good things exist, it's because people like me make them and have standards for them. The standards I follow would be true whether I believed in them or not.

True for some other people, not all.


Oh God, don't take him seriously. He's just doing a terrible impression of someone.

Terrible? No. That was actually very accurate. 100% accurate, as it was word-for-word

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Do tell me, then, what source this truth springs from, for which you are the avatar? The real David could stay internally consistent.


From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

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Definitely tramp stamp. Stay classy, councilor.


Well, it is the classier of the two, lol.

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From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.

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Xilizhra wrote...

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Angry_Elcor wrote...

I believe you did, and most people reading back through would, as well. I don't care much, either way. If that's not what you were saying, then there was no reason to question me in the first place. As I said, it honestly doesn't bother me what your opinion is.

I understand that you are arguing for the sake of arguing, and I won't lie, I find it fun, too! But you seemed to be more reasonable than your average bear (at first) so I tried to explain myself. You weren't up for having any kind of debate, and you obviously still aren't, so that's fair. I'm pretty happy with the idea of a sexy tattoo'd Miranda, and you won't have any luck convincing me my tastes are wrong, but you can keep trying, if you really want. ;)


Elcor, when good things exist, it's because people like me make them and have standards for them. The standards I follow would be true whether I believed in them or not.

True for some other people, not all.


Oh God, don't take him seriously. He's just doing a terrible impression of someone.

Terrible? No. That was actually very accurate. 100% accurate, as it was word-for-word


Accurate, perfect, terrible.. Same difference. ;)

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Xilizhra wrote...

From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.


Ah, but you're so wrong Xilizhra. I'm not a villain. I'm a hero. Because I'm meaningful. Don't be absurd.

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Xilizhra wrote...

From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.


I'm sorry, what constitutes a villain here?

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dreamgazer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.


I'm sorry, what constitutes a villain here?


Happy Post! That's Me!

Really, villainy is subjective. And circumstantial.

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dreamgazer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.


I'm sorry, what constitutes a villain here?

Admitted willingness to commit war crimes is a decent start, in addition to trying to restart Cerberus in-game.

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I wouldn't have killed Emily Wong on Twitter.

[/on-topic]

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Xilizhra wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.


I'm sorry, what constitutes a villain here?

Admitted willingness to commit war crimes is a decent start, in addition to trying to restart Cerberus in-game.


What's a war-crime? Why is it a war-crime? Why are you right? Why am I wrong?

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 Yet... you've threaten to outright murder folks on here? 
What am I reading BSN.  

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I wouldn't have killed Emily Wong on Twitter.

[/on-topic]


I wouldn't have got Chobot as Allers.

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Xilizhra wrote...

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Xilizhra wrote...

From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.


I'm sorry, what constitutes a villain here?

Admitted willingness to commit war crimes is a decent start, in addition to trying to restart Cerberus in-game.

I haven't seen him say anything about committing war crimes. I also haven't seen him make multiple death threats against other members of this board, unlike someone else I could mention...

:whistle:

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I wouldn't have killed Emily Wong on Twitter.

[/on-topic]


This, and I wouldn't have killed off Kal'Reegar so unceremoniously. We only get to see one no-nonsense quarian soldier, and he just dies off in an email.

Either Emily or Khalisah would've been better suited to be the tag-along reporter on the Normandy. Someone, anyone who has been in the trilogy since the beginning would be preferable to the weird newcomer with the uncanny valley face.

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I also haven't seen him make multiple death threats against other members of this board, unlike someone else I could mention...

:whistle:


Bazinga, just mentioned that up above, rofl. 

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.


I'm sorry, what constitutes a villain here?

Admitted willingness to commit war crimes is a decent start, in addition to trying to restart Cerberus in-game.


What's a war-crime? Why is it a war-crime? Why are you right? Why am I wrong?

You advocated for killing civilians in a landing zone and claimed that rules of engagement were idiotic, to my recollection.

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dreamgazer wrote...

I wouldn't have killed Emily Wong on Twitter.

[/on-topic]


This, and I wouldn't have killed off Kal'Reegar so unceremoniously. We only get to see one no-nonsense quarian soldier, and he just dies off in an email.


/Pours out a 40

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Xilizhra wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.


I'm sorry, what constitutes a villain here?

Admitted willingness to commit war crimes is a decent start, in addition to trying to restart Cerberus in-game.


What's a war-crime? Why is it a war-crime? Why are you right? Why am I wrong?

You advocated for killing civilians in a landing zone and claimed that rules of engagement were idiotic, to my recollection.


No to the former, unless they were a threat. That's just wasting ammunition.

Yes to the second, but you don't actually know anything about our RoE or the logic behind it, so you're completely off the mark here. I have a feeling your RoE would be to drive toward the sick, injured animal on the side of the road. Everybody's a minsweeper once though...

And on a notional approach, why is it inherently bad? What's 'bad' about it?

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I wouldn't have killed Emily Wong on Twitter.

[/on-topic]


I wouldn't have got Chobot as Allers.


Mhm. I would have hired a better (actual) VA w/o Chobot's likeness, and offered a choice between them.

(I mean, Laura Bailey was right there.)

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No to the former, unless they were a threat. That's just wasting ammunition.

Yes to the second, but you don't actually know anything about our RoE or the logic behind it, so you're completely off the mark here. I have a feeling your RoE would be to drive toward the sick, injured animal on the side of the road. Everybody's a minsweeper once though...

Your opinion has been noted.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

From heroism of course. There is an inherent structure for the hero to follow. Shepard must be the hero, otherwise he would not be the hero. And the hero must be the protagonist. If the protagonist isn't the hero, then he's not the protagonist.

Perhaps, but you're still the villain. With tattoos as some kind of weak point.


I'm sorry, what constitutes a villain here?


Happy Post! That's Me!

Really, villainy is subjective. And circumstantial.


Nonsense.

Do you know why people didn't care much for TIM? It was because his villainy wasn't meaningful. Your unvillainous interpretation of villainy is quite lacking.

Tell me, Massively. Does this make you feel powerful?

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And Allers didn't lick a single datapad on the Normandy. What was the point?

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Xilizhra wrote...

No to the former, unless they were a threat. That's just wasting ammunition.

Yes to the second, but you don't actually know anything about our RoE or the logic behind it, so you're completely off the mark here. I have a feeling your RoE would be to drive toward the sick, injured animal on the side of the road. Everybody's a minsweeper once though...

Your opinion has been noted.


And your opinion has been disregarded. 

And I think I'm more than qualified to determine what opinions are worthwhile on this matter or not.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 07 novembre 2013 - 05:48 .