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[CronoDragoon]

I don't think the whole arc was a mess. I think they did a good job tying all your previous decisions into the finale, not to mention the romance content is well-integrated into the main plot. I'm still confused about the timeline that led up to the arc, though, since things are so radically different from where we left them in ME2.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Shepard's an idiot, I would have fixed that.

The Councillors are idiots, I would have fixed that.

The asari are idiots, I'd leave that as is, the Vorcha can have Thessia.

Sovereign was the only cool Reaper, I would have made sure you only heard Harbinger speak twice, none of the stupid combat taunts.

God Tier Javik is already perfect so I'll let him decide what we do with the asari (We're going to need bigger airlocks)

[Xilizhra]

Basically, it's Xil's nightmare.

Your obsession with me is charming, but if you want to completely fabricate outcomes, why don't you try writing your own IP?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Xilizhra wrote...

Basically, it's Xil's nightmare.

Your obsession with me is charming, but if you want to completely fabricate outcomes, why don't you try writing your own IP?

I'd take his vaguely unsettling "Shepard runs things for a while" over your "Indoctrination for everyone! Reapers are people too! Down with everything that isn't a wonderful perfect unblemished Asari!!!!!!!! MALES ARE TEH EVUHLZ!!! Forever." Hellscape any day.

[CronoDragoon]

Cthulhu42 wrote...
I don't really consider giving you a third option if you've completed an arbitrary number of secondary objectives a great example of your choices all mattering, even if it is better than how most other choices in the series ended up being handled.

All your choices that were relevant to the geth/quarian peace are taken into account. So what if the threshold number was arbitrary? My friend had to kill the quarians because he didn't make enough decisions conducive to peace, I did. Our different decisions led to different outcomes. That's what it means to have your choices matter.

[RatThing]

Answering the OP 

Ashley should have remained that tough woman from ME1 and be less emotional and whiny in the third game. She should also had more dialogue in ME3 after the citadel coup, and not only about her family, more about the whole Reaper situation or the councils refusal to help.  Should have more of her famous Me1 lines too like  "Nothing like a nice relaxing stroll on the beach, blasting bad guys with my boomstick"
I’d also like to know what she been up to since she left the Normandy. She was chief when she left and became Lieutenant Commander, so she must have done something significant. I'd also remove that scene where she is crawling drunk on the floor.

I think it’s kinda lame that Tali and the Quarians look like humans.  Other than that she definitely lacks a spine.  I mean she’s funny and sympathetic and all, but this is terrible. During her romance in ME2 she behaves almost completely submissive, not like an equal partner at all. Like she can be grateful that the great Shepard took notice of her (This improved a little in 3) . She also trusts Shepard completely even in the most crucial situations where a little distrust would be appropriate (tribunal, Rannoch  it's kind of a problem with all characters but with her most of all).  So I’d have liked to see one situation where she took the initiative and actually showed some spine.  (I never did this and never will, but if Shepard chooses the Geth over the Quarians, then she shouldn’t just stand there in awe. She should try to stop him).

Jack’s new role in ME3 as mother hen for a bunch of biotic teens is completely unbelievable in my eyes.  If anything she should have been the leader of a merc group, a pirate squad  or a gang of biotic maniacs.   

I’d like to learn more about Admiral Hacketts past and military background. Something about his participation in the first contact war or what he did during the conflict with the Batarians. Is there anything mentioned in the games that I may have missed? Maybe in the books/comics? (This man is the mastermind and strategist behind the victory against the Reapers and I know almost nothing about him.)

Zaeed and Kasumi could have had a bigger role in ME3, Morinth could have had an appearance at all (that banshee thing doesn’t count). Wouldn’t change a single thing about Javik and Aria.

Modifié par RatThing, 07 novembre 2013 - 03:58 .

[rekn2]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Basically, it's Xil's nightmare.

Your obsession with me is charming, but if you want to completely fabricate outcomes, why don't you try writing your own IP?

I'd take his vaguely unsettling "Shepard runs things for a while" over your "Indoctrination for everyone! Reapers are people too! Down with everything that isn't a wonderful perfect unblemished Asari!!!!!!!! MALES ARE TEH EVUHLZ!!! Forever." Hellscape any day.

the obsession the entire clique has over you and david is kind of lame now. i used to think they had something (they still do but its the way they go about it and the ammount of time they put into it thats disturbing now). then, i thought it was funny. whenever you or david say something crazy they get all riled up. now i think its just weird and disturbing like i said above.

its ok to laugh at crazies but the line is beyond blured.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

rekn2 wrote...


the obsession the entire clique has over you and david is kind of lame now. i used to think they had something (they still do but its the way they go about it and the ammount of time they put into it thats disturbing now). then, i thought it was funny. whenever you or david say something crazy they get all riled up. now i think its just weird and disturbing like i said above.

its ok to laugh at crazies but the line is beyond blured.

Silly mod complaining, traitorous Rekn.

Hey are you still mad about that EDI thread of yours?

[jtav]

As for what I'd change.

Let Miranda do something related to opposing Cerberus *onscreen* and because she's opposing Cerberus, not as a side effect of a personal issue. I don't care about Oriana (well, I do, but she's not really a priority in a war to save civilization).The fact that Miranda has enough empathy to love her family shouldn't be treated as salvific or particularly praiseworthy.

And lose death by breakup.

[RatThing]

jtav wrote...

As for what I'd change.

Let Miranda do something related to opposing Cerberus *onscreen* and because she's opposing Cerberus, not as a side effect of a personal issue.

That would have pissed off some of the Cerberus fanatics among the players .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Barquiel wrote...



Well, people have a habit of shipping people that don't like eachother together (Liara/Javik,

How dare you insult Javik like that!

He can do so much better!

[rekn2]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

rekn2 wrote...


the obsession the entire clique has over you and david is kind of lame now. i used to think they had something (they still do but its the way they go about it and the ammount of time they put into it thats disturbing now). then, i thought it was funny. whenever you or david say something crazy they get all riled up. now i think its just weird and disturbing like i said above.

its ok to laugh at crazies but the line is beyond blured.

Silly mod complaining, traitorous Rekn.

Hey are you still mad about that EDI thread of yours?

nope, laughed it off an hour later. still dont trust you or moroco mole, tbh.

[Han Shot First]

Baelrahn wrote...

I would have liked to have Jack and Kaidan become involved with one another. That would definitely be interesting. By a long shot, they're two versions of the same life.

If Bioware had decided to have more squadmates hook up so long as Shepard wasn't involved with either of them, I think Kaidan and Liara would have been a match. They have fairly similar outlooks and Kaidan says that he finds her attractive in the first game.

Oddly enough I can kind of see Miranda/Liara as well, *if* Miranda was into women. I'm not sure she is though.

jtav wrote...

As for what I'd change.

Let Miranda do something related to opposing Cerberus *onscreen* and because she's opposing Cerberus, not as a side effect of a personal issue. I don't care about Oriana (well, I do, but she's not really a priority in a war to save civilization).The fact that Miranda has enough empathy to love her family shouldn't be treated as salvific or particularly praiseworthy.

And lose death by breakup.

So much this.

Miranda should have been involved in something directly related to the war effort rather than a personal quest. Of course her personal quests ends up tying into the war effort in major way, but that was entirely coincidental. I'd change that.

Also while I'd be totally fine with Miranda potentially dying in her mission, it should have been determined by other factors besides relationship status.

[eyezonlyii]

I'd have taken the sanctuary quest and given it to Oriana straight up. It would have shown that she is just as capable and dangerous as her sister. Then Miranda could have joined the squad, sent Liara to the crucible and been the info queen of my ship. Traynor could have been her assistant, or better yet, used Dr Eva's body via QE to get some combat experience without putting her in direct danger and EDI could have just stayed the ships computer. Since both James and Steve could fly the shuttle, I would have liked the option to choose between them for missions. As I said earlier, Jacob could have taken Kaidan's spot as the biotic unit leader if the former was dead. Ash could be part of a special forces branch of the Alliance, presumably to sniff out Cerberus. To separate the VS I would not have offered either the Spectre position.

Garrus would only have been space batman if you took the renegade approach with him, otherwise, he was on Omega as a Spectre on a mission.

Tali would have grown up a bit. Standing up for herself (and her people if necessary).

Thane would never have been recruited. He's a cool guy, but he had no purpose on the suicide mission.

Samara would have joined after the monastery and and Morinth would have had the mission to get her sisters out of there, then joined the crew.

Jack would only be teaching at Grissom if she was paragone friendshipped/romanced, otherwise she would have been there just as Cerberus shows up in order to take them out as well.

[FlyingSquirrel]

jtav wrote...

As for what I'd change.

Let Miranda do something related to opposing Cerberus *onscreen* and because she's opposing Cerberus, not as a side effect of a personal issue. I don't care about Oriana (well, I do, but she's not really a priority in a war to save civilization).The fact that Miranda has enough empathy to love her family shouldn't be treated as salvific or particularly praiseworthy.

And lose death by breakup.

I think it's at least plausible that Miranda knows that Oriana's trail will lead back to Cerberus, given that ther father has ties to the organization as well. Still, I think it would have been better if they'd just kept Oriana out of the story altogether, or had her helping Miranda instead of going missing. At the very least, the story as it appears leaves it unclear as to why Miranda is doing what she is doing.

[CynicalShep]

BioWareMod01 wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Definitely tramp stamp. Stay classy, councilor.

Well, it is the classier of the two, lol.

And Tevos is quite classy, so she doesn't break character

[Darks1d3]

StreetMagic wrote...

eyezonlyii wrote...

Jack would only be teaching at Grissom if she was paragone friendshipped/romanced, otherwise she would have been there just as Cerberus shows up in order to take them out as well.

I think they were betting on that. You have to get pretty far into her dialogue to get those dialogue outcomes. Otherwise, she's expendable and fodder for the Suicide Mission. Weekes (her own writer) literally wrote her as someone to be loathed. link "The simpler explanation is that I personally utterly loathe her character. She presses a number of buttons I don't like in real-life people, and she's written well enough that she comes off like a real-life person -- a real-life person I detest. Other people respond to her extremely favorably. .. And... well, not to get spoilery on you, but if this were ME1, I'd be really excited when it came time to leave someone to guard the nuke on Virmire. We're on a suicide mission. Some people might not make it. Sacrifices have to be made. (cough)"

But then, some people want to save everyone, without any motivation or friendship. It's more about their need to have perfect playthroughs, just for the sake of it. I think that's their fault though.

It had nothing to do with that for me. While she might not have been my favorite character(and on a personal level I don't like everything she's done or agree with most of her motivations), that doesn't mean I want her dead. She's willing to go on this suicide mission even though it might mean her death. And after doing her loyalty mission, I can understand(empathise) her motivations. She has the chance(and right) to try and turn her life around. There really wasn't any character I hated(though that's not to say I didn't have preferences), but wanting a "perfect" playthrough(which in itself is relative) didn't even cross my mind. I guess I'm just one of those who tries to save everyone I can. I abhor waste and having someone killed just because I don't like them is both stupid and wasteful. I'm not going to kill off a potential asset to the war with the reapers.

[RatThing]

Is it really that suprising or strange that someone liked Jack as a character the way she was and did not try to change her? She's a maniac who doesn't care about rules, authorities anything. That's why as a character in the game I liked her. That's how she should have stayed. Teaching the Grissom students just doesn't fit her at all.

Modifié par RatThing, 07 novembre 2013 - 05:30 .

[Darks1d3]

*shrugs* Fair enough.

But on that note, I never considered them "tests" of any sort. I just saw that she wasn't all that happy with how her life was going. And I just wanted to help. What she considers "best" for her life is up to her. Wasn't at all trying to change her into someone I think she should be. Her life, her choice.

Modifié par Darks1d3, 07 novembre 2013 - 05:34 .