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[Salarian Jesus]

Now, just to clear some things up, a few thoughts.

Anyone that says that it is a bad weapon, I can't understand why he says it. I mean, what do you compare it to? The Harrier's accuracy? The Reegar's brokenness? The Shuriken? The Predator? And so on, and so forth. Almost every high-tier weapon has something in which it is way better than others. The Venom's strength is crowd control. Anyone that can use it properly knows what I mean. I pity those that use it once or twice and label it a bad weapon. It is not one, you just need to learn to use it. I respect those of you that say that they didn't enjoy using it, but anyone saying that it's a bad weapon is dumb.

Is it the best weapon? No, there are better weapons. Better in DPS, in clip size, et cetera. But some players that I know and played with can keep up with (and if score mattered, utterly destroy) anyone using any kit with any weapon in a game, regardless of difficulty. Again, "Anyone that can use it properly knows what I mean."

Then why do we (at least me) love it and use it on 90% on our kits? Because, for us, it is a lot of fun, and because of the fact that it beautifully synergizes with most characters regardless of it being a weapons platform or a biotic powerhouse.The Venom does not need to be augmented by powers to do well.

If there are any typos, please ignore them, I'm too tired to re-read all this.

[Supreme Leech]

The venom is good for geth and cerberus on gold, I'll give you that. But that's it. It sucks on gold against reapers or collectors. Forget about using it on platinum. Its main problem is that it does very little damage. Yes, it's good for staggering and priming. It has a good area of effect. But if you're going up against armoured enemies and platinum bosses, this weapon absolutely sucks. It shines against little enemies but doesn't do any noticeable damage to platinum bosses. This is why it's a bad weapon. Why on earth would you use a venom when you have a reegar/wraith/raider/piranha/claymore occupying the same slot? The shotguns in this game are extremely powerful, they're so good. Clearly, people using the venom are just trying to be hipster/cool because they're bored with the game. Or else, they're just too good at the game and don't enjoy destroying everything with decent weapons, so in order for them to have fun they must nerf themselves.

The only exception is the venom on the geth infiltrator. That's the most powerful build in the game in my experience.

Modifié par XFG-65, 13 novembre 2013 - 01:01 .

[TheNightSlasher]

kaxas92 wrote...

Now, just to clear some things up, a few thoughts.

Anyone that says that it is a bad weapon, I can't understand why he says it. I mean, what do you compare it to? The Harrier's accuracy? The Reegar's brokenness? The Shuriken? The Predator? And so on, and so forth. Almost every high-tier weapon has something in which it is way better than others. The Venom's strength is crowd control. Anyone that can use it properly knows what I mean. I pity those that use it once or twice and label it a bad weapon. It is not one, you just need to learn to use it. I respect those of you that say that they didn't enjoy using it, but anyone saying that it's a bad weapon is dumb.

Is it the best weapon? No, there are better weapons. Better in DPS, in clip size, et cetera. But some players that I know and played with can keep up with (and if score mattered, utterly destroy) anyone using any kit with any weapon in a game, regardless of difficulty. Again, "Anyone that can use it properly knows what I mean."

Then why do we (at least me) love it and use it on 90% on our kits? Because, for us, it is a lot of fun, and because of the fact that it beautifully synergizes with most characters regardless of it being a weapons platform or a biotic powerhouse.The Venom does not need to be augmented by powers to do well.

If there are any typos, please ignore them, I'm too tired to re-read all this.

This post reflects my thoughts exactly.

[IamZAE]

XFG-65 wrote...

The venom is good for geth and cerberus on gold, I'll give you that. But that's it. It sucks on gold against reapers or collectors. Forget about using it on platinum. Its main problem is that it does very little damage. Yes, it's good for staggering and priming. It has a good area of effect. But if you're going up against armoured enemies and platinum bosses, this weapon absolutely sucks. It shines against little enemies but doesn't do any noticeable damage to platinum bosses. This is why it's a bad weapon. Why on earth would you use a venom when you have a reegar/wraith/raider/piranha/claymore occupying the same slot? The shotguns in this game are extremely powerful, they're so good. Clearly, people using the venom are just trying to be hipster/cool because they're bored with the game. Or else, they're just too good at the game and don't enjoy destroying everything with decent weapons, so in order for them to have fun they must nerf themselves.

The only exception is the venom on the geth infiltrator. That's the most powerful build in the game in my experience.

Hurricane gi says come at me bro

[NuclearTech76]

XFG-65 wrote...

The venom is good for geth and cerberus on gold, I'll give you that. But that's it. It sucks on gold against reapers or collectors. Forget about using it on platinum. Its main problem is that it does very little damage. Yes, it's good for staggering and priming. It has a good area of effect. But if you're going up against armoured enemies and platinum bosses, this weapon absolutely sucks. It shines against little enemies but doesn't do any noticeable damage to platinum bosses. This is why it's a bad weapon. Why on earth would you use a venom when you have a reegar/wraith/raider/piranha/claymore occupying the same slot? The shotguns in this game are extremely powerful, they're so good. Clearly, people using the venom are just trying to be hipster/cool because they're bored with the game. Or else, they're just too good at the game and don't enjoy destroying everything with decent weapons, so in order for them to have fun they must nerf themselves.

The only exception is the venom on the geth infiltrator. That's the most powerful build in the game in my experience.

 
I routinely play with people who take it into platinum and dominate with it. Your mistake is assuming a weapon is all about raw damage. The venom makes powers more deadly by priming for wide AOE combo explosions.

[Red Panda]

This thread was made at a bad time.

Edited thread.

[I Am Robot]

bgsam1990 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Honestly please don't get angry if I say this but I feel it is a scrub weapon for people who have no imagination to use proper weapons effectively.

Every other weapon lacks imagination. Just point at enemy and shoot..same old same old.

The Javelin, it's vastly different. Line up as many enemies as possible (preferably some of them would be behind two or three walls) and then take the shot. 

Modifié par Farid-Yoda-N7, 13 novembre 2013 - 07:13 .

[koschwarz74]

It's a fun weapon but against bosses...

[Supreme Leech]

Ares_GoW wrote...

koschwarz74 wrote...

It's a fun weapon but against bosses...

...it's really good too. L2Venom

Venom batarian vanguard with omniblade! Learn to venom :happy: You're an unstoppable beast with that build, man.

Modifié par XFG-65, 13 novembre 2013 - 10:16 .

[DS Monkfish]

I'd love a higher level Venom, but the evil store has only let me have it once. I saw Leland exterminate all the things in a PuG with his Venom-toting MQE and was horrified at how fast everything died...

[Supreme Leech]

DS Monkfish wrote...

I'd love a higher level Venom, but the evil store has only let me have it once. I saw Leland exterminate all the things in a PuG with his Venom-toting MQE and was horrified at how fast everything died...

There's not much difference between a level 1 and level 10 venom except for the weight. There's certainly no noticeable difference in damage, all you need is incendiary ammo at level 4 and a level 3 shotgun amp and you're practically at maximum damage. Level 10 weapons are very overrated.

[koschwarz74]

Ares_GoW wrote...

koschwarz74 wrote...

It's a fun weapon but against bosses...

...it's really good too. L2Venom

I accept i should...

But somehow i feel it takes ages to murder an atlas or banshee with my lvl X venom + lvl IV incendiary ammo. It does the job but kinda slowly.

[TheNightSlasher]

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

bgsam1990 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Honestly please don't get angry if I say this but I feel it is a scrub weapon for people who have no imagination to use proper weapons effectively.

Every other weapon lacks imagination. Just point at enemy and shoot..same old same old.

The Javelin, it's vastly different. Line up as many enemies as possible (preferably some of them would be behind two or three walls) and then take the shot. 

I'd rather face an enemy head on instead of hiding behind a wall and shooting through it. Shooting through walls and sniping is not my style, I prefer shotguns. 

[DHKany]

IMaster757 wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

It's a wonderful gun in the hands of a skilled user. And it does take a knack and some skill to use it really well.

charge, or don't charge aim at feet? 

Admittedly a bit finicky on stairs and ramps but thats more of an issue with ME3 itself. 

Its already clearly to challenging for Pugs.  Whens the last time you have seen a pug use it?

why does that matter? Just because Pugs don't use it =/= skillful weapon 

[Leland Gaunt]

kaxas92 wrote...

Now, just to clear some things up, a few thoughts.

Anyone that says that it is a bad weapon, I can't understand why he says it. I mean, what do you compare it to? The Harrier's accuracy? The Reegar's brokenness? The Shuriken? The Predator? And so on, and so forth. Almost every high-tier weapon has something in which it is way better than others. The Venom's strength is crowd control. Anyone that can use it properly knows what I mean. I pity those that use it once or twice and label it a bad weapon. It is not one, you just need to learn to use it. I respect those of you that say that they didn't enjoy using it, but anyone saying that it's a bad weapon is dumb.

Is it the best weapon? No, there are better weapons. Better in DPS, in clip size, et cetera. But some players that I know and played with can keep up with (and if score mattered, utterly destroy) anyone using any kit with any weapon in a game, regardless of difficulty. Again, "Anyone that can use it properly knows what I mean."

Then why do we (at least me) love it and use it on 90% on our kits? Because, for us, it is a lot of fun, and because of the fact that it beautifully synergizes with most characters regardless of it being a weapons platform or a biotic powerhouse.The Venom does not need to be augmented by powers to do well.

If there are any typos, please ignore them, I'm too tired to re-read all this.

That post is way to reasonable.  I agree though.

[DHKany]

bgsam1990 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Honestly please don't get angry if I say this but I feel it is a scrub weapon for people who have no imagination to use proper weapons effectively.

Every other weapon lacks imagination. Just point at enemy and shoot..same old same old.

The only thing that is more 'imaginitive' on the weapon is that it ragdolls to quite the hilarious effect 

otherwise it's just as 'boring' as any other weapon. Charge, or just aim at the feet and shoot. 

[TheTechnoTurian]

I used it a few times over the last week and find the venom to be pretty boring, apart from the occasional hilarious ragdoll. I'll take the Saber/Arc Pistol/Javelin/AT-12 Raider/Claymore instead, the Venom lacks the ability to headshot and I have a need to blow heads up.

[TheNightSlasher]

DHKany wrote...

bgsam1990 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Honestly please don't get angry if I say this but I feel it is a scrub weapon for people who have no imagination to use proper weapons effectively.

Every other weapon lacks imagination. Just point at enemy and shoot..same old same old.

The only thing that is more 'imaginitive' on the weapon is that it ragdolls to quite the hilarious effect 

otherwise it's just as 'boring' as any other weapon. Charge, or just aim at the feet and shoot. 

Well, that is true. I can only speak for myself but the main reason I prefer venom is it's ragdoll effects. While headshotting may be satisfying for many, I prefer ragdolling enemies. It's the same reason why I prefer biotic/tech users to weapons' platforms. 

[Kel Riever]

As previously mentioned, my Venom shotgun is the worst weapon I have, except for the Spitfire. Both are equally as bad.

Because I have neither. So there!

[Wizard of Ox]

Leland Gaunt wrote...

kaxas92 wrote...

Now, just to clear some things up, a few thoughts.

Anyone that says that it is a bad weapon, I can't understand why he says it. I mean, what do you compare it to? The Harrier's accuracy? The Reegar's brokenness? The Shuriken? The Predator? And so on, and so forth. Almost every high-tier weapon has something in which it is way better than others. The Venom's strength is crowd control. Anyone that can use it properly knows what I mean. I pity those that use it once or twice and label it a bad weapon. It is not one, you just need to learn to use it. I respect those of you that say that they didn't enjoy using it, but anyone saying that it's a bad weapon is dumb.

Is it the best weapon? No, there are better weapons. Better in DPS, in clip size, et cetera. But some players that I know and played with can keep up with (and if score mattered, utterly destroy) anyone using any kit with any weapon in a game, regardless of difficulty. Again, "Anyone that can use it properly knows what I mean."

Then why do we (at least me) love it and use it on 90% on our kits? Because, for us, it is a lot of fun, and because of the fact that it beautifully synergizes with most characters regardless of it being a weapons platform or a biotic powerhouse.The Venom does not need to be augmented by powers to do well.

If there are any typos, please ignore them, I'm too tired to re-read all this.

That post is way to reasonable.  I agree though.

It also lacks the grammatical delusions and the fallacies mandatory for BSN's understanding. 

[megabeast37215]

Venom is the bomb. No pun intended.

It synergizes SO well with power spam kits.. Its almost unfair. It's what the Falcon should have been from the beginning.

[HeroicMass]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Venom is the bomb. No pun intended.

It synergizes SO well with power spam kits.. Its almost unfair. It's what the Falcon should have been from the beginning.

It's what the falcon WAS at the beginning.  Stagger, plus good DPS with a good weight.