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TV Equals: Why Mass Effect Is Television’s Next Great Space Opera


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Greetings fellow Spectres!  :police:

Wanted to highlight an article featured on io9 arguing why Mass Effect could be the next big hit TV series. 

www.tvequals.com/2013/11/06/mass-effect-tv-series/

For what it's worth, it convinced me.  Before reading this I wasn't so sure Mass Effect as television could work. 

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A Mass Effect series done by HBO. This is would be one of the greatest events in the history of mankind.

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The episodic format is immensely better than film than motion picture for an expansive universe like Mass Effect, but the problem I see is the entire reaper plot really does need some major restructuring before it can be adapted, but a lot more than, say, A Song of Fire and Ice would, which is far better organized and cohesive in its original source material. As it is, Mass Effect has a great universe to work from, but if they're going to follow the reaper story, it won't go well at all if they follow the plotting of the game trilogy as it is.

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I'd love to see a new space opera show, but... Does everything have to be about Shepard? I've already played the games, why should I watch a tv series based on it? And there's already a movie in the works. I mean, let's be honest here, the Reaper story wasn't that good...

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A Mass Effect T.V series would be a dream come true for me, The ME universe is teaming with millions of story possibilities that would fit just right for a TV series.

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Deverz wrote...

I'd love to see a new space opera show, but... Does everything have to be about Shepard? I've already played the games, why should I watch a tv series based on it? And there's already a movie in the works. I mean, let's be honest here, the Reaper story wasn't that good...


More to the point, the reaper story was not the thing that made the games so compelling in the first place. Sure, the reaper plot is the driving force that unites Shepard with the other characters, as well as the races of the galaxy, not to mention having some genuinely good reaper-related moments, but for quite a lot of the trilogy, that plot tends to take a backseat to lots of smaller scale stories and character interaction. Mass Effect 2 makes this abundantly clear by feeling more like the Shepard chronicles with its loyalty mission episodes, merc battles and Collector fights.

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I agree with the conclusion on ME's potential, but not with some of the arguments in the article. Also, if Mordin Solus was one of his favourite characters he should know that Mordin was responsible for the genophage :whistle: /token-nitpick-from-devoted-fanbase

Deverz wrote...

I'd love to see a new space opera show, but... Does everything have to be about Shepard? I've already played the games, why should I watch a tv series based on it? And there's already a movie in the works. I mean, let's be honest here, the Reaper story wasn't that good...


That's true. Having a non-Shepard story would also solve the issues raised by KaiserShep in the post above yours.

I'd love a television series in the Mass Effect universe, provided the creators treat it with respect and care. Whether a Shepard-story or not, I don't personally mind too much. I just want to see the Citadel come to life, bar brawl in Afterlife, a mass relay jump, tensions between a krogan and a turian... whatever they come up with :P but sadly, I'm not holding my breath; my view of the world is not optimistic enough for such a thing of beauty to exist in it.

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I think the setting might lend itself well to a television series, but that the Shepard trilogy is mostly unfilmable. It would need a new protagonist, a new plot, and new villain(s).

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Han Shot First wrote...

I think the setting might lend itself well to a television series, but that the Shepard trilogy is mostly unfilmable. It would need a new protagonist, a new plot, and new villain(s).


I agree with you that there is potential in the MEU for a TV series. I do feel that the current game orientated framing and a great deal of the plotlines of the Sheaprd arc are compromised, but not totally unfilmable. There is much potential in that character and the supporting cast for an audience to identify with. It might anger "fans" that have bonded with the franchise as a game to see an adaptation into other media, but how many comic book creations stay consistant over time and across multiple formats and continue to work

Where I think a plot could exist is one that highlights the spread of humanity's explosive race through the Sol system and then into the wider galaxy, so much achieved in 26 brief years, or one human generation. It would have to be human centric to appeal to a wider audience and that sort of plot could tap into the "dream" of space. Most of the aliens in MEU are anthropmorphic humanoids and if an amateur cosplayer can pull off these races, professional makeup designers and custom designers could also.

The Reapers I would cast in a similar role as the supernatural threats in GOT, the supernatural apocalypse threat in that series is referenced but does not really have a lot of screen time. The greatest majority of the TV series of GOT is a human drama and this could be transferred to the MEU setting

Am I hopeful that it would work? Honestly no, not unless there was significant changes made to the framing and writers of exceptional quality  employed to lose the "game" modes and that the existing fanbase would embrace the concept of having "their" Shepard be written in a different and more definitive way. Having been on BSN for the amount of time I have, I know that will be near impossible 

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The universe lends itself to TV, however the writing will be to be of a higher standard.

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I think the First Contact Wars would be a good starting place for a ME TV series.

And I would get cable specifically to watch this if it was ever made, an on cable.....

Pitch it to Netflix!
If not a cable station, Netflix might me a good fit.

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It could be done, even with Commander Shepard as a main character, and I would like to see a woman in the part. Note I said a main character. As a TV series it could not focus on Shepard like the game. I think the story would have to be rewritten to a far better standard, and far better dialogue, with far better developed characters. No Shepard infamous lines "Asari can reproduce with their own race?" lol. And ditch the comic book superhero stuff.

The reapers would be tricky. Face it. War is boring, especially against 2 km tall ships. It's fine as a backdrop, but as a week in week out pew pew pew, it's boring. It's the people stories around it that are interesting. The reapers will have to be made beatable somehow other than talking to some glow kid. In fact the story may have to be changed to keeping the reapers from invading in the first place, and in the final season they figure out how to hit them where they live or solve the problem that's causing them to invade in the first place which no other cycle has ever done.

FCW would be a good pilot.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 08 novembre 2013 - 07:29 .


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I will agree that a running TV series would be infinitely better than trying to cram everything into a 90 minute movie.

However, I am not convinced that a static medium like tv or film is going to do a video game any justice. Video games are already a superior storytelling medium in relation. Its kind of like taking a step backwards. This is generally why movies based on video games fall flat.

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Jaulen wrote...

I think the First Contact Wars would be a good starting place for a ME TV series.

And I would get cable specifically to watch this if it was ever made, an on cable.....

Pitch it to Netflix!
If not a cable station, Netflix might me a good fit.


I'm not so sure the First Contact War could work.  Perhaps if it included the pollitical fallout and tension between species as a follow-up, but not on it's own. 

The reason (the same reason I think that a FCW prequal game wouldn't work) is that very little happens durring the First Contact War.  It only lasted for three months, and the entirety of the conflict more-or-less involved the turians attacking and eventually occupying the colony of Shanxi, humans retaliating and taking back the colony, and the Council stepping in to stop the conflict before it escalated into a full-on war (this is, after all, why the turians only refer to it as the Relay 314 Incident). 

It's not that I don't think the potential story is interesting, I just don't think there is enough meat to the story to justify it being told in a potential multi-season TV series (or a 2-and-a-half hour long film for that matter). 

Personally, I think that if a large-scale adaptation is made (film, television, etc.) it should be the main story of the series, ie, Shepard's

Modifié par Nanox Vox, 09 novembre 2013 - 08:43 .


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A well-budgeted TV series beats a movie every time its based on a large story with much to cover.

Though one based on Mass Effect might not be a good idea...

Modifié par TheMyron, 09 novembre 2013 - 09:53 .


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Couldn't agree more. I think the recent announcement that Marvel made regarding their move to Netflix for their next four TV series is a good thing for the chance of ME ending up a longer narrative on tv than a movie.

Run on sentences woo!

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 If it were written by J.M.S., maybe. The key to any space opera or science fiction is to keep it consistent. This is something Mac Walters is constitutionally unable to do when it comes to the background material and 'how things work.'

At least J.M.S. has *proven* he can maintain sufficient consistency across an entire four / five year run for the story to be believable and engaging.

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Nanox Vox wrote...

Jaulen wrote...

I think the First Contact Wars would be a good starting place for a ME TV series.

And I would get cable specifically to watch this if it was ever made, an on cable.....

Pitch it to Netflix!
If not a cable station, Netflix might me a good fit.


I'm not so sure the First Contact War could work.  Perhaps if it included the pollitical fallout and tension between species as a follow-up, but not on it's own. 

The reason (the same reason I think that a FCW prequal game wouldn't work) is that very little happens durring the First Contact War.  It only lasted for three months, and the entirety of the conflict more-or-less involved the turians attacking and eventually occupying the colony of Shanxi, humans retaliating and taking back the colony, and the Council stepping in to stop the conflict before it escalated into a full-on war (this is, after all, why the turians only refer to it as the Relay 314 Incident). 

It's not that I don't think the potential story is interesting, I just don't think there is enough meat to the story to justify it being told in a potential multi-season TV series (or a 2-and-a-half hour long film for that matter). 

Personally, I think that if a large-scale adaptation is made (film, television, etc.) it should be the main story of the series, ie, Shepard's



I also don't think that the FCW would be able to be a standalone, hence why I said a 'starting place'.

It would give a chance to see humanity take to the stars, discover alien technology, discover other species, and fight them, and the tensions that it would cause in the galaxy once peace was made, and give a face to the 'why' humanity isn't all that well liked or trusted by the other races......

And I would like, if it was ever made, for the 'meat' of the series to follow Shep, with better writing, more personal stories blah blah blah.... they could tell the first contact war as if it was being relayed through training vids to Space Marine recruits....that way there would be a reason for the time-jump ahead 25 years to the start of the Shepard era......

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I would do the show as a serialized space opera set aboard the citadel. No shepard maybe a few minor characters would pop up here and there it would be about life aboard the citadel occasionally have story lines set elsewhere would be about a large cast of interconnecting characters like Deadwood. It would be more character driven with the science fiction serving as a backdrop to the characters. There would be a rich political family, poor families, security officers