Obadiah wrote...
I liked that the devs put a somewhat xenophobic religious character with a strong personality in the game that Shepard could get to know. It seemed far more realistic than the more comfortable politically correct belief-unspecified individuals (like Kaiden) that never talk about human religion or philosphy in a contemporary manner.
The fact that she kept butting heads with Shepard and after various plot developments turning out to be right was just a bonus:
- Non-Alliance personel running around vital parts of the highly classified ship. Hell yeah its a bad idea. Normandy SR1 was pretty small though, maybe just keeping them out of the strictly classified areas. No option for that tho.
- She was right about aliens sicking us on the bear since that is exaclty what happens in ME3.
- Of course there was the Horizon encounter where she turned out to be right that Cerberus couldn't be trusted, and were at least partially behind the attack. Shepard was stuck in a deal with a devil willing to sacrfice his friends and colonies to stop the Collectors. The plot passes over that fairly quickly, but that is a seriously dark development.
- She was even partially right about the Creator because the Reapers have been breeding us for millions of years.
I just think Ashley is a surprisingly interesting and well written character, and I'm glad that she was written the way she was.
Realistic? Um.....
no. The idea of an anti-alien character is just as cliched as the opposite. There's no "better" personality here, let's be clear about that.
And
again, wrong, because they
don't end up right, depending on how you play.
-1) Multi-species problem that poses a direct threat to
every single living thing in the entire galaxy -- hell
no, it's not a bad idea to trust your squad, particularrly when they have as much to lose as you do. This concerns every single race -- every living being in the
galaxy. Check your prejudice at the door or step off, becaue the mission is too important for personal squabbles.
- 2)I believe the guards in the CIC completely and utterly counter that assumption -- "Come on, if Thessia was under attack and Earth wasn't, you can damn well bet we'd be guarding our borders." Somehow, people like you seem to forget that
the rest of the galaxy interperts themselves as the "dog" and each-other as the one that will sick them on the "bear." And in ME1, ironicly, they become
justified in doing so if you left the Council to die in ME1, because they can claim you stuck it to them
first - that you sicked them on the dog
first. What you repeatedly fail to comprehend is that
everyone saw the Alliance as the ones that would leave everyone to fend off the bear. That was the entire reason humans were frowned upon in ME1. Ideals like hers are the reason that no one backs each-other in the Reaper War -- tell me, did all the mistrust breed from that same mentality make your job easier? Or did it make it harder?
.....yeah, that's what I thought. See, Ashley never realized how hypocritical that statement was, because it can be just as easily used
against us by saying we'd do the same exact thing. And in a galaxy where no one has any trust or reliance on each-other whatsoever, we get the galaxy of ME3 where nobody is willing to work together for the greater good without getting their backs scratched first --
even though life as we know it is comming to an end because of the lack of cooperation. So, please, I ask you to look at the results that line of thinking got us into before you endorse it so blindly.
-3)
Look at what happened. The Collectors had taken
seven colonies by that point - Horizon, New Canton, Ferris Fields, Fhel Prime, Freedom's Progress, Cylene (I think - it's in the News Network updates), and at least one more unnamed colony. That's upwards of
1 million people. How the hell can you say Shepard doesn't have proof"? Shepard saved the entire colony, and did many, many more things galaxy-wide to prove he/she was still on the level. And Shepard wasn't even asking Ashley to leave the Alliance and join Cerberus - she was asked to join
Shepard. Joker and Dr. Chakwas both say that they didn't work for Cerberus, "we worked for
you." And if Jack, Garrus, Grunt, Tali, Zaeed, Kasumi, Mordin, Thane, Samara, and Legion could all work for Shepard without having to join Cerberus,
why not Ashley? Hell,
Admiral Hackett can step foot on a Cerberus-owned Normandy and not have to resign from the Alliance to do so. In fact, I daresay things would have been better had Shepard had an Alliance leasion like Ashley/Kaidan on the Normandy to assure the Admirals that he/she wasn't a traitor, regardless of who was backing the mission. Looking back, Kaidan admits that he was wrong about Shepard and should have trusted that Shepard would only do this for good reasons. Ashley doesn't. It's not a "seriously dark development," it's stupidity - especally considering how long Kaidan/Ashley knew Shepard, and how they stole the Normandy from the Citadel to stop Saren, so they shouldn't be a stranger to breaking the rules to get the job done. And at least
one of them is able to admit being wrong.
-4) The Reapers haven't been "breeding" us. They're completely apathetic to us -- it's all just numbers to the Catalyst. If anything, any refrence you're drawing to the Catalyst is likely concidental, since thr Catalyst wasn't even in the story at the time of ME2.
With all due respect, I think you've completely misinterperted it -- Ash isn't any more interesting then any other character I've seen. In fact, she and Kaidan tend to rank in the bottom compared to others like Garrus, Wrex, Tali and Liara.
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Now, either post something about the actual[color="#ff0000"] [i][u]point[/color] of the debate - Ashley Williams - or just bugger off already.
