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[Ajosraa]

Han Shot First wrote...

Ajosraa wrote...

shes like the latin girl you knew in highschool

Is that like knew knew, or the bible knew.

That could go in very different directions.

knowing the bible... and knowing latins, both ways;P

Modifié par Ajosraa, 15 novembre 2013 - 05:26 .

[Seboist]

Majority of squadmates in the trilogy are pretty superfluous. Even the few that have some plot relevance become as important as mannequins after their one task is done(ex. Tali after giving data in 1).

[Ryzaki]

Seboist wrote...

Majority of squadmates in the trilogy are pretty superfluous. Even the few that have some plot relevance become as important as mannequins after their one task is done(ex. Tali after giving data in 1).

To be honest I'd rather that than have X character constantly shoved in my face.

Alas ME team doesn't do the balance between plot relevancy and forced friendships that the DA team has. (Though DA team also has some doozies. Ex: Snitching on Anders to Cullen and his herp derp we'll look into it).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 novembre 2013 - 05:27 .

[Steelcan]

Well I don't bring her now because I do Therum last, that hallucination dialogue is just too great

[Ryzaki]

Steelcan wrote...

Well I don't bring her now because I do Therum last, that hallucination dialogue is just too great

XD It is pretty funny.

remembering that mission has me missing the mako. God the hammerhead was a ****ty replacement.

StreetMagic wrote...

That all of this is normal behavior. I think that's what grates on me
the most. Because you can call out just about every other character
who's crazy (even Shepard/yourself).

Oh god this. You can't call her out on anything or if you do it's a instant shutdown on her part like she's in the right and Shep's wrong with Shep acting like a spanked puppy afterwards.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 novembre 2013 - 05:33 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Well I don't bring her now because I do Therum last, that hallucination dialogue is just too great

XD It is pretty funny.

remembering that mission has me missing the mako. God the hammerhead was a ****ty replacement.

Ah, good times.

[Seboist]

StreetMagic wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

ME1 fortunately gives us the option of choosing who to take on every mission. It doesn't force us to bring her along on Noveria to service drama, unlike Thessia in ME3.

Two years... it's easier to imagine she got something resembling proper combat training by then. Not spec-ops grade, but competent.

Not to mention her dialogue with Benezia was rather....stiff...corny...bad

I always took it as Liara being REALLY anti social and bad at expressing feelz.

(Least that got some of the cheese out my mouth).

The theory I heard from Julia lately is that Liara is a high-functioning sociopath. Given how calm she is after Benezia, Nyxeris... it actually makes a lot of sense in retrospect.

That'd be cool if true.. if it was actually explored by the writers. But no, I think they actually think it's all OK. There's no master plan here, where they are secretly trying to convey how weird she is, but just not overtly admitting it. They actually think she's normal. That all of this is normal behavior. I think that's what grates on me the most. Because you can call out just about every other character who's crazy (even Shepard/yourself).

Her ME1 incarnation is just a poorly written western incarnation of a JRPG naive virginal school girl.

[Ryzaki]

@Deninon: Still better than taking 4 hits and the HH blowing up on me in Overlord. god that was annoying.

And I have only had the Mako flip over like that on me like twice...

[DeinonSlayer]

Ryzaki wrote...

@Deninon: Still better than taking 4 hits and the HH blowing up on me in Overlord. god that was annoying.

And I have only had the Mako flip over like that on me like twice...

I'm a fan of the Mako, myself. BDtS was amazing, and exploration in the sequels never lived up to the original. That glitch only ever happened to me once.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 15 novembre 2013 - 05:43 .

[Ryzaki]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Deninon: Still better than taking 4 hits and the HH blowing up on me in Overlord. god that was annoying.

And I have only had the Mako flip over like that on me like twice...

I'm a fan of the Mako, myself. BDtS was amazing, and exploration in the sequels never lived up to the original. That glitch only ever happened to me once.

I really wanted to ride something if only for a scene where Liara/Ashley/Kaidan/Garrus/Tali react in horror to Shep's driving skills.

And yeah the HH made me scared to explore to be honest and it playing like a platformer didn't help. If I wanted to play a platformer I'd have more fun playing prince of persia.

Also while it got annoying it was fun to ride the Mako on planets and enjoy the view. If BWhad made the planets less ridculously bumpy they would've had less complants.

It kind of reminded me of that classic first-person tank/RTS hybrid, Battlezone.

Ah never played.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 novembre 2013 - 05:43 .

[Steelcan]

I hope they bring back vehicle exploration, but make the vehicle less of a tank and more of a small vehicle, obviously it'd need to be enclosed but something more like a Puma is called for.

[DeinonSlayer]

Ryzaki wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Deninon: Still better than taking 4 hits and the HH blowing up on me in Overlord. god that was annoying.

And I have only had the Mako flip over like that on me like twice...

I'm a fan of the Mako, myself. BDtS was amazing, and exploration in the sequels never lived up to the original. That glitch only ever happened to me once.

*snip*

I really wanted to ride something if only for a scene where Liara/Ashley/Kaidan/Garrus/Tali react in horror to Shep's driving skills.

And yeah the HH made me scared to explore to be honest and it playing like a platformer didn't help. If I wanted to play a platformer I'd have more fun playing prince of persia.

Also while it got annoying it was fun to ride the Mako on planets and enjoy the view. If BWhad made the planets less ridculously bumpy they would've had less complants.

It kind of reminded me of that classic first-person tank/RTS hybrid, Battlezone (1998). Odd as it may seem, I loved the physics of the basic Soviet fighter (right side of the image). The way the wings moved, directional antigravity.



I never pulled off any stunts like I'm seeing in that gif, now I'm jealous. Once I actually got out of the Mako and walked halfway across a map just to take in the scenery and see how well Shepard negotiated the mountains.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 15 novembre 2013 - 05:48 .

[Ryzaki]

I'm pretty sure that's modded to give the Mako higher jumps. I never managed those leaps either. XD

Ah I see.

Mako helped with having me feel ME1 was huge. ME2 felt pretty claustrophobic in comparison.

LOL StreetMagic.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 novembre 2013 - 05:49 .

[Seboist]

Most of ME2 consisted of warehouses.

[wolfhowwl]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
@Wolf, I agree Tali would serve better in an "Anna Grímsdóttir" type of support role. Granted she was given extensive combat training in preparation for her pilgrimage, but given her high-value skillset and the dangers posed by combat on account of the whole immune system issue, I wouldn't want her kicking the door. Liara is similar - a high-value skillset, only, unlike Tali, without any semblance of military training. They're rear-echelon.

Yeah, we saw that Tali can defend herself with those thugs on the Citadel, but we're doing three man frontal assaults on Geth and Krogan. Her inexperience and especially the health issues as you said would make her better suited for a support position.

I assume that Tali had less training and experience than actual Quarian soldiers and we saw them get torn to pieces on Haestrom. Kal's men aren't inept, the game doesn't convey that the Geth are actually extremely dangerous opponents when not facing the player.

Ryzaki wrote...
Wait you think Garrus would be worse than a faceless alliance commando? Doesn't Anderson say in ME3 the turians pretty much have *very* good military training?

Yes. While Garrus had been in the Turian military, he's been a cop for some time and will be rusty.

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 15 novembre 2013 - 06:01 .

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

Most of ME2 consisted of warehouses.

And mooks.

[DeinonSlayer]

Seboist wrote...

Most of ME2 consisted of warehouses.

To be fair, it wasn't the same two warehouses over and over, which is a point in its favor...

Give me ME1's maps with ME2's interiors and we're golden.

[Ravensword]

StreetMagic wrote...

After reading the Homeworld comic, I had more respect for Tali. They fleshed out that part of her story pretty well.

Too little, too late.

[Han Shot First]

StreetMagic wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Her ME1 incarnation is just a poorly written western incarnation of a JRPG naive virginal school girl.

Yeah. I'm surprised she's as popular as she is. I wonder why Mass Effect demographics lean towards this. General gamer demographics still lean towards mid-20s/early 30s with the largest numbers. I'm in my 30s myself. The last thing I need is this juvenile JRPG sh!t. If it is going to be Japanese inspired, I still like the way they convey "women", not girls (Revy in Black Lagoon, or Faye in Cowboy Bebop). That's why, say, Aria is a much cooler Asari in my book. Or even Liara's "dad".

Tali also filled the same roll from ME2 onwards. In ME2 Tali is the western incarnation of the naïve virginal school girl.

That shy, awkward virginal nonsense was one of the aspects I liked least about Liara. (or Tali, for that matter) Sadly that character type seems to appear in nearly every Bioware game. In DA2 it was Merrill except with each of those features turned up to over 9000.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 15 novembre 2013 - 06:04 .

[Ryzaki]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Yes. While Garrus had been in the Turian military, he's been a cop for some time and will be rusty.

Fair enough. I just don't see anything in game to suggest Garrus is worse than alliance military grunts.

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Most
of ME2 consisted of warehouses.

To be fair, it wasn't the same
two warehouses over and over, which is a point in its favor...

Give me ME1's maps with ME2's interiors and we're golden.

That would've been nice. Alas