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[DeinonSlayer]

You brought it up, I've gotta post it:

[trenq]

Nice Tali face Denion.

Tali talking about threesome with fshep and Garrus in the bathroom. (;

[Ryzaki]

Man Citadel was the best DLC I have played in a while. XD

Even the Blasto scene cracked me up.

[LiL Reapur]

trenq wrote...

Tali talking about threesome with fshep and Garrus in the bathroom. (;

Kinky..........

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Ryzaki wrote...

Star fury wrote..
Exactly. I don't see how Liara's "experience with prothean tech" help when she runs around with a gun.

It doesn't that's what Garrus, Wrex and Kaidan are for. Not to mention her biotics would help in a firefight.

It's because real military tries to replenish their casualties, if they can do it where they sustained that casualties, it's even better. Especially when a new recruit is miles better than the casualty, has loads of experience including combat and against Geth. 

She doesn't have loads of experience against Geth. She has *slightly* more experience than Shep and most of that experience is watching her company get wiped out. And then endangering the mission by messing with the beacon like she has no sense. As for tour experience I'm fairly certain the alliance would have better soldiers (not to mention hastily replacing a crewmember you specifically handpicked with someone you barely know hits my "Huh" buttons if Anderson's interviews in Citadel mean anything).

As for replenishing casualities fair enough but let's not act like ME military acts like RL military. If it did Ashley would've never gotten all the promotions so quickly. Among many other things.

Ashley never messed with the Beacon. She showed common sense. It was Kaidan who messed with the Beacon. 

Oh I get it now! It depends upon if you played femShep or broShep. 

And Ashley might have gotten to Operations Chief.

[Ryzaki]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Ashley never messed with the Beacon. She showed common sense. It was Kaidan who messed with the Beacon. 

Oh I get it now! It depends upon if you played femShep or broShep. 

And Ashley might have gotten to Operations Chief.

Yeah that's why I edited it out. Doesn't seem fair when Kaidan shares her stupidity if Shep has ovaries. XD

I don't think she would've reached LT though.

[Han Shot First]

trenq wrote...


Tali talking about threesome with fshep and Garrus in the bathroom. (;

Actually she does that with a Shep of any gender, and regardless of relationship status.

Ravensword wrote...

Has it at any time ever stricken anyone as odd that Shepard can romance certain alien species w/o regard to physiology?

I think they were going more for Captain Kirk than realism. Boldly going where no man has gone before, and all that...

They were basically giving the player an option to play Captain Kirk. When Kirk met aliens one of two things happened: they got punched or they got f--ked. Sometimes both.

[Daemul]

StreetMagic wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Has it at any time ever stricken anyone as odd that Shepard can romance certain alien species w/o regard to physiology?

It struck Hudson himself as odd at first. He was just as surprised people wanted to romance characters like Tali and Garrus at first. I forgot the quote, but something along the lines of "Who wants to hook up with a girl with chicken feet?"

I have never been able to do a Garrus, Thane or Tali romance because I just couldn't get over how alien they look, even though they have human personalities. I had to practically force myself to romance Liara because otherwise my Femshep would have been alone, the Asari looking like human women helped me slowly get over it, but whenever I see those tentacles....*shivers*

[RatThing]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Unfortunately David7204 got banned again so we don't have anyone to defend the heroism of romancing shy, awkward virgins in Bioware games. 

If you don’t mind I’ll give it a try defending Liara. Now while she doesn’t belong to my absolute favorite characters I still like her and she’s my favorite romance option (best content).

I just want to tackle this shy highschool virgin thing that people seem to like putting on her. I’ve never seen her that way in the least, not even in ME1. For me she was more the academic type who spends more time with books and studies than people and thus have problems to socialize. This is a character trait you find in people of all ages. And it may be a stereotype, I mean I’ve seen all kind of academics during my studies, but I guess her behavior is what people would expect from that kind of people.  She still does express her views very confident. The Rachni decision comes to mind when you want to kill the queen. -> “No, stop feeling and think. Even if you don’t agree with Asari culture you must see that she can be an ally.” This is not schoolgirl behavior. Not only does she stand up to the commander but she is also intelligent enough to think outside the box. Tbh I don’t remember her acting girlish or immature at all. That is Tali’s thing. Hell, I’ve seen a lot more immature behavior in all 3 ME2 (main female) romance options plus Ashley. And needless to say that she has grown even more as a person in ME2. I was impressed how in LotSB she completely took the initiative away from Shepard. Not many characters act that confident during their missions (I can only think of Garrus, Zaeed and Kasumi aside from the greybox decision). Notice how you don’t get to choose anything for her like you do for everyone else?
So in conclusion, even if it may suprise people, for me she is one of the most mature and independent characters in the series.

Modifié par RatThing, 15 novembre 2013 - 09:37 .

[RatThing]

She was written to be Shepards friend not his professor. I don't think she's acting out of line here, you get that vibe from Garrus too.

Modifié par RatThing, 15 novembre 2013 - 09:45 .

[RatThing]

Well, I don't get that vibe from her. Or more precise, I don't get that vibe from her in ME3 exclusively. It's clear that the game was meant to be very emotional with a great emphasis on friendship and alliances so you get all these overly emotional scenes with a lot of characters (Garrus, Wrex Thane). Did they over overdo it? maybe, but not with Liara exclusively in my opinion. She just have more content and the reason for that should be clear --> suicide mission.
And tbh, I don't agree with your brainiac image either. For me she doesn't fit entirely in a stereotype, neither in the brainiac or nerd nor in the sweet substitute teacher. 

Modifié par RatThing, 15 novembre 2013 - 10:15 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...
Then they realized their mistake and made up for it with Citadel DLC. Laziness was not going to cut it, after all. They're certainly capable of creating a setting where Shepard has all kinds of people who care. They just decided they get could get away with not doing it at first, and trying to encapsulate a lot of "intimate" and confessional moments with Liara.

Yep. And for those of us that didn't give Liara the light of day before, it comes off as very inappropriate and heavy handed.

She's treated like a therapist. I don't want her on the ship. I don't even think she should be the Shadow Broker.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 15 novembre 2013 - 10:27 .

[RatThing]

 I don't know, I've never worked for a game company. I kinda imagine how they clench their fists everytime they read anything about lazyness when thinking about all the overtime hours they did to finish the game in time .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

RatThing wrote...

 I don't know, I've never worked for a game company. I kinda imagine how they clench their fists everytime they read anything about lazyness when thinking about all the overtime hours they did to finish the game in time .

To that I respond simply that all I see is the finish product. If I think the finished product sucks, I'm not going to give a damn about how hard you worked. Because in my opinion, it was for nothing. It doesn't matter how hard you work, if you screw up, that's it. You just blew all that time and wasted everyone's time and money.

Then again, I'm not a fan of this whole "A for effort" idea that's been permeating the world in recent generations. I don't believe in rewarding effort if you don't achieve a goal or win or succeed. 

My philosophy is that if you didn't win or succeed, you weren't working hard enough.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 15 novembre 2013 - 10:33 .

[Barquiel]

The devs recorded >40,000 lines of dialogue for ME3, which is 15,000 more than ME2 and 20,000 more than ME1. Calling them lazy is really a bit absurd. The writers obviously couldn't please everyone after the suicide mission, so they put more effort into Liara and Garrus than any other character because they have huge fanbases.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I'm an Extroverted-Feeler (ENFP). A friend of mine is an Introverted-Thinker (INTJ) - the mastermind. I agree with Street on this. Liara is an Extroverted-Feeler. Liara thinks with her emotions. She's an idealist, but that may have to do with her relative youth.

My friend and I are both creative people. If you look at her creative output, it is more cerebral than mine. Mine is music which can also be very intellectual, but my output as a rule is very emotional and goes for a feel and a vibe and imagery rather than thought and analytical process.

Liara had different writers in the different games. ME3 had different writers for a number of different characters. Mac Walters was lead writer and had a different vision for the story, but still a lead writer is basically an editor and coordinator of the writing team. He had different writers under him than Drew Karpyshyn had. It had been over 5 years.

But I have noticed something and it's not exclusive to Mass Effect. In 2011 and 2012 a number of TV series got more emotional than they were in the past as well. This didn't bother me as much as it did my INTJ friend. It drove her up the wall. She prefers very little emotion shown and an intellectual story which makes me fall asleep.

[RatThing]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

RatThing wrote...

 I don't know, I've never worked for a game company. I kinda imagine how they clench their fists everytime they read anything about lazyness when thinking about all the overtime hours they did to finish the game in time .

To that I respond simply that all I see is the finish product. If I think the finished product sucks, I'm not going to give a damn about how hard you worked. Because in my opinion, it was for nothing. It doesn't matter how hard you work, if you screw up, that's it. You just blew all that time and wasted everyone's time and money.

Then again, I'm not a fan of this whole "A for effort" idea that's been permeating the world in recent generations. I don't believe in rewarding effort if you don't achieve a goal or win or succeed. 

My philosophy is that if you didn't win or succeed, you weren't working hard enough.

You do realize their goal wasn't to please you explicitly?

[Dean_the_Young]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Unfortunately David7204 got banned again so we don't have anyone to defend the heroism of romancing shy, awkward virgins in Bioware games. 

Finally? What he do to get it?

[Ravensword]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Unfortunately David7204 got banned again so we don't have anyone to defend the heroism of romancing shy, awkward virgins in Bioware games. 

Finally? What he do to get it?

Well, if it was anything like the other times he was banned, it's probably b/c he was being an abusive douche.