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[Cainhurst Crow]

This thread is going exactly where it deserves to go.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Ashley was promoted to Lt Cmdr. She had proven herself while you were dead, working for Cerberus, and in prison. You inspired her to work hard, and to be at her best. Because.... Heroism.

I see what you're doing, and I am not going to drink that Kool-aid like a certain someone who likes that word. 

As for this quote, I simply do not believe she has earned this rank at all. Period. Nada.

I headcanon that brass used her attachment to Shepard's name (as well as pity because she was his one time physical liaison) to move her forward. 

I simply do not for a second believe she earned her promotion, especially the jump she got in between ME2 and ME3, on her own.

That is what I will chalk up to as the writers not doing research on how military promotions (or the military in general work)

As for misfits, Jack and Grunt really are the only ones who I see as being misfits. Everyone else are independent professionals who I'm uniting under one cause and one team.

Awww come on, can't you tell sarcasm on this board anymore?

Williams might have been promoted to Operations Chief if the promotions worked like the real military. Hell, I know enough people on active duty.

Don't get me going on the way they did the ranks. That was just so you'd kill off Kaidan or to make sure you'd send the VS packing to Hackett because femShep couldn't have any men. They either outranked her, cheated on her, died, or were pointy. FemShep's love had to be Liara or Samantha. This is a very sore spot and will not be forgotten. ... I guess because.... heroism.

You do realize I troll here regularly.  The story has so many holes in it, that it's difficult not to fall into them.

I totally could tell you were trolling. I acknowledged it in my first sentence.

I was breaking serious just for that one though.

As I said, I knew what you were doing with 'heroism'.

And all I'm saying is, I'm not drinking that Kool-aid. David can drink as much as he wants.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 16 novembre 2013 - 12:13 .

[dreamgazer]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

This thread is going exactly where it deserves to go.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 16 novembre 2013 - 12:05 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

This thread is going exactly where it deserves to go.

I totally just put it back on topic. I discussed at length why I don't believe Ashley is a worthy comrade of Shepard from a military perspective.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 16 novembre 2013 - 12:06 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

J. Reezy wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

This thread is going exactly where it deserves to go.

I totally just put it back on topic. I discussed at length why I don't believe Ashley is a worthy comrade of Shepard from a military perspective.

Is anyone in the Alliance worthy of anything then? Shepard included?

My Shepard? Totally. Many others, totally not. A few people are cool. Like James. And Joker. And to much less extent, Kaidan. Adams knows his stuff. I disagree with their anti-Cerberus opinions, but what can you do? 

[dreamgazer]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

My Shepard? Totally. Many others, totally not. 

C'mon, Reezy. You knew this was coming, right? 

[Barquiel]

I'm not a big Ashley fan, but there's nothing wrong with having her as a squadmate...and I'd imagine some Shepards would be simply more comfortable fighting side-by-side with other alliance soldiers (Liara requires a bit more headcanon, but she's your only biotic specialist in ME1 and ME3.)  

Half of your squad doesn't know anything about military tactics. Tali is a quarian teenager who was expecting to meet the Shadow Broker in person. It doesn't get any more naive (but Udina forced us to recruit her for some reason...). We have Jack run around in some well placed leather straps. Miranda and her catsuit. I don't think Kasumi has much experience fighting Geth, etc.

I think you're a bit too harsh here.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

My Shepard? Totally. Many others, totally not. 

C'mon, Reezy. You knew this was coming, right? 

I tolds him. I tolds him, I did.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Barquiel wrote...

I'm not a big Ashley fan, but there's nothing wrong with having her as a squadmate...and I'd imagine some Shepards would be simply more comfortable fighting side-by-side with other alliance soldiers (Liara requires a bit more headcanon, but she's your only biotic specialist in ME1 and ME3.)  

Half of your squad doesn't know anything about military tactics. Tali is a quarian teenager who was expecting to meet the Shadow Broker in person. It doesn't get any more naive (but Udina forced us to recruit her for some reason...). We have Jack run around in some well placed leather straps. Miranda and her catsuit. I don't think Kasumi has much experience fighting Geth, etc.

I think you're a bit too harsh here.

As I've mentioned, Liara has about the same usefulness as Ashley in my opinion. I don't need, a biotic specialist. My mission requirements are nicely filled in ME1 by Kaidan and Wrex, and in ME3 by Javik. Otherwise, I don't need a biotic specialist like Liara. Good old combat maneuvers and weapon firepower do the trick perfectly for me.

Tali's purpose in my game is to be the wench with the wrench. She's an engineer. She works on engines. That's her purpose, not the battlefied. Jack is an unstable freight train that I'm not comfortable with. I'd use her as a distraction and a rabbit to draw fire. Otherwise, despite her power level, I consider her to be rather expendable. Miranda is invaluable to me. She's not a frontline combatant, but more of a leader and independent operator for a clandestine raid or espionage work when it comes to the field. Her choice of combat attire is indeed questionable, but I have her heavy suit for when she needs it. Otherwise, I think she'll be alright. Kasumi is an infiltrator that has a particular skill in breaking and entering. She's not meant to be a forward combatant. She's much more like Miranda, and more specialized in accessing area's that aren't (to the enemy) supposed to be accessed.

I'm being perfectly justified in my critique of Ashley in my opinion. I even explained why I was being so.

[eyezonlyii]

Barquiel wrote...

I'm not a big Ashley fan, but there's nothing wrong with having her as a squadmate...and I'd imagine some Shepards would be simply more comfortable fighting side-by-side with other alliance soldiers (Liara requires a bit more headcanon, but she's your only biotic specialist in ME1 and ME3.)  
I think you're a bit too harsh here.

Again...about those other marines on the ship that Ashley pushed out the way for her glory in the sun:whistle: (i know Anderson made her come, but still, it's stupid). we even see some of them moving the bomb on Virmire, so it's not like they didn't exist. I like her and all but i just couldn't fathom what the hell they were doing this entire time.

[SwobyJ]

Massively's posts are endlessly entertaining.

[Steelcan]

Not gonna lie I like this thread

[Iakus]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I'm not a big Ashley fan, but there's nothing wrong with having her as a squadmate...and I'd imagine some Shepards would be simply more comfortable fighting side-by-side with other alliance soldiers (Liara requires a bit more headcanon, but she's your only biotic specialist in ME1 and ME3.)  

Half of your squad doesn't know anything about military tactics. Tali is a quarian teenager who was expecting to meet the Shadow Broker in person. It doesn't get any more naive (but Udina forced us to recruit her for some reason...). We have Jack run around in some well placed leather straps. Miranda and her catsuit. I don't think Kasumi has much experience fighting Geth, etc.

I think you're a bit too harsh here.

As I've mentioned, Liara has about the same usefulness as Ashley in my opinion. I don't need, a biotic specialist. My mission requirements are nicely filled in ME1 by Kaidan and Wrex, and in ME3 by Javik. Otherwise, I don't need a biotic specialist like Liara. Good old combat maneuvers and weapon firepower do the trick perfectly for me.

Tali's purpose in my game is to be the wench with the wrench. She's an engineer. She works on engines. That's her purpose, not the battlefied. Jack is an unstable freight train that I'm not comfortable with. I'd use her as a distraction and a rabbit to draw fire. Otherwise, despite her power level, I consider her to be rather expendable. Miranda is invaluable to me. She's not a frontline combatant, but more of a leader and independent operator for a clandestine raid or espionage work when it comes to the field. Her choice of combat attire is indeed questionable, but I have her heavy suit for when she needs it. Otherwise, I think she'll be alright. Kasumi is an infiltrator that has a particular skill in breaking and entering. She's not meant to be a forward combatant. She's much more like Miranda, and more specialized in accessing area's that aren't (to the enemy) supposed to be accessed.

I'm being perfectly justified in my critique of Ashley in my opinion. I even explained why I was being so.

And to me, Ash has proven to be quite the lethal fighting machine that complements Wrex very well.  Tali's okay when I'm not playing as an Infiltrator, as her tech attacks are quite useful against certain enemies Though Garrus has some of those as well).  In ME3 Liara is pretty much my only biotic specialist until I get Javik (who's personality is kinda annoying to me)

And Miranda is a Cerberus apologist who doesn't grow enough of a spine to stand up to The Illusive Man until the very end of ME2

[MassivelyEffective0730]

iakus wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I'm not a big Ashley fan, but there's nothing wrong with having her as a squadmate...and I'd imagine some Shepards would be simply more comfortable fighting side-by-side with other alliance soldiers (Liara requires a bit more headcanon, but she's your only biotic specialist in ME1 and ME3.)  

Half of your squad doesn't know anything about military tactics. Tali is a quarian teenager who was expecting to meet the Shadow Broker in person. It doesn't get any more naive (but Udina forced us to recruit her for some reason...). We have Jack run around in some well placed leather straps. Miranda and her catsuit. I don't think Kasumi has much experience fighting Geth, etc.

I think you're a bit too harsh here.

As I've mentioned, Liara has about the same usefulness as Ashley in my opinion. I don't need, a biotic specialist. My mission requirements are nicely filled in ME1 by Kaidan and Wrex, and in ME3 by Javik. Otherwise, I don't need a biotic specialist like Liara. Good old combat maneuvers and weapon firepower do the trick perfectly for me.

Tali's purpose in my game is to be the wench with the wrench. She's an engineer. She works on engines. That's her purpose, not the battlefied. Jack is an unstable freight train that I'm not comfortable with. I'd use her as a distraction and a rabbit to draw fire. Otherwise, despite her power level, I consider her to be rather expendable. Miranda is invaluable to me. She's not a frontline combatant, but more of a leader and independent operator for a clandestine raid or espionage work when it comes to the field. Her choice of combat attire is indeed questionable, but I have her heavy suit for when she needs it. Otherwise, I think she'll be alright. Kasumi is an infiltrator that has a particular skill in breaking and entering. She's not meant to be a forward combatant. She's much more like Miranda, and more specialized in accessing area's that aren't (to the enemy) supposed to be accessed.

I'm being perfectly justified in my critique of Ashley in my opinion. I even explained why I was being so.

And to me, Ash has proven to be quite the lethal fighting machine that complements Wrex very well.  Tali's okay when I'm not playing as an Infiltrator, as her tech attacks are quite useful against certain enemies Though Garrus has some of those as well).  In ME3 Liara is pretty much my only biotic specialist until I get Javik (who's personality is kinda annoying to me)

And Miranda is a Cerberus apologist who doesn't grow enough of a spine to stand up to The Illusive Man until the very end of ME2

Man, what you got against TIM and Cerberus? 

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 16 novembre 2013 - 12:41 .

[Iakus]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Man, what you got against TIM and Cerberus? 

Oy, don't get me started.

I'll take Ash's cynicism over Cerberus' fanaticism any day of the week

[GreyLycanTrope]

Cerberus is turrible.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

iakus wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Man, what you got against TIM and Cerberus? 

Oy, don't get me started.

I'll take Ash's cynicism over Cerberus' fanaticism any day of the week

Ashley seems to be the fanatic about the alliance. Just saying. 

Don't see what Cerberus is so fanatic about.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Cerberus is turrible.

Cerberus is awezomez.

[Cainhurst Crow]

The thread is why mass effect forums should be phased out.

[Cainhurst Crow]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

iakus wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Man, what you got against TIM and Cerberus? 

Oy, don't get me started.

I'll take Ash's cynicism over Cerberus' fanaticism any day of the week

Ashley seems to be the fanatic about the alliance. Just saying. 

Don't see what Cerberus is so fanatic about.

Species-based-nationalism's a hell of a drug.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

The thread is why mass effect forums should be phased out.

In lieu of what?

[Undead Han]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...



She's much more like Miranda, and more specialized in accessing area's that aren't (to the enemy) supposed to be accessed.

So like Miranda she got in Jacob's trousers?

Modifié par Han Shot First, 16 novembre 2013 - 12:59 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Han Shot First wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...



She's much more like Miranda, and more specialized in accessing area's that aren't (to the enemy) supposed to be accessed.

So like Miranda she got in Jacob's trousers?

Maybe. Seeing as she's the expert infiltrator, you'd think she got further than Miranda did. Don't even know for sure if anything ever really got that far between Miranda and Jacob tbh. If so, who cares.