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[dudemacha]

Also playing around with the builder presented me with the highest single shot damage barring headshot capable with one kit and its not the javelin but the acolyte

Modifié par Nik6454, 09 novembre 2013 - 07:57 .

[Lady Abstract]

Count Silvershroud wrote...

Because any other weapon I would use on a caster can probably take down the shields of any non-boss in about the same time?  Without making me waste time switching weapons before and/or after the shields go down, or worry about charging it.

I wasnt talking about using 2 weapons on a caster i was stating on enemies that you dont use casters on people usually carry the acolyte as a secondary. On bronze or silver yea you can take a boss down in the same amount of time as the acolyte. It also depends on the kit you use as well.

Count Silvershroud wrote...

Or I can SMG for 1/3 of a second then biotic explode.  It's about the same.  The stunning is the only real advantage to the acolyte, but chances are I staggered the target with a power as I started shooting them if I am playing a caster anyways.

The Acolyte is undoubtedly more effective at taking down shields if it is already charged, but if I would need to take more than one shot on a group of enemies, I can do it just as fast with a Hurricane, CSMG, or most of the heavier pistols or lighter SGs because I am not wasting time charging them.  And the SMG/SG apply ammo very effectively themselves.

The acolyte is obviously good because many people use the acolyte as a secondary or an only weapon in platinum solos. Its fast and gets the job done quickly depending on the kit. The acolyte also has area effect you can strip down shields of the enemey it hits and the enemies around it. If you have ammo bonuses on it you can prime multiple enemies for a burst. It also stuns.

But if you still cant see the light then i suppose "I should go :?"

[Xain88]

Wow i can't believe this! Acolyte is considered one of the most OP crutches in this game and for good reason...the gun is very good and on some kits its the best weapon.

Its not even that complicated to get used to but yes you will need some practice if you're a completely new user anyway here a few things i can share about the acolyte.

First of all use it on characters whose powers the gun can compliment. It can be used both as a secondary or a primary weapon depending what you're going for. I will give examples for which powers its really better than other guns later on in this post.

Secondly the charge up mechanism is actually really useful, the important thing is that you always keep that button pressed always since you can have it charged up while you run, dodge/roll and the ability to charge up / fire a shot while you're casting powers. Examples flamer, smash, pull, while spamming nades, between biotic charge cooldowns etc.

Thirdly your play style using the gun aboviously has to be a little bit different than guns that fire immediately. And i believe this is the main reason some people still don't get this gun. Like i said earlier always keep it charged up and stay mobile. You should never take cover using this gun, instead corner shoot and use your movement to avoid taking damage. The nature of this gun is that you act fast and stay on the move looking for mobs of enemies or stay behind walls depsnding on the kit you have.

Here are some of the character/power combinations acolyte works really well with:

1. Batarian soldier (no blade armor build, incendiary or warp ammo and power amp). This has to be the best setup for batsol and imo there is no other gun that works better for this character. I use acolyte as primary on him. Always stay on the move looking for mobs while keeping your acolyte charged. Move in release the shot and then ballistic blade, all mooks die. For when there is a mix of armor and mooks and you can't move in, strip the shields from distance and lob in incediary grenades, everything dies.

2. Demolisher, QME, or anything with arc grenades. Same as batsol, keep it charged up and look for mobs, release the shot and spam nades...profit.

3. Biotics like phoenix adept, human adept. Strip the shields and than create BE's using singularity, imo acolyte works better on these 2 compared to smg's.

4 GT, Vorcha soldier/sentinel. With flamer there isn't a better option than the acolyte, not much of an explanation is needed why.

5 Vanguards. Its really good on most of the vanguards due to its light weight and the ability to prime for fire/tech explosions depending on your ammo types. (HV, AV, Slayer, PV etc).

6 Its really good on fury and valkyrie too since you only need to create 1 biotic explosion to kill all the mooks instead of shooting them afterwards but yeah there are many other options on those 2 kits which are just as good. Acolyte is also a good choice on melee characters since it doesn't interupt your melee while you charge it and the shield strip is useful. Anyway its good on krogans, shadow, talon mercs...may have missed some characters.

Also try acolyte as primary on GI and human soldier with incendiary ammo its hillariously powerful, both against mooks and armor. I actually like this loadout on host on my GI just as much as claymore.

Modifié par Xain88, 09 novembre 2013 - 09:13 .

[BIGGLESBY]

Terrapin wrote...

Heretic was a fun game. I wish I could still play it but tried dl'ing and it wouldn't work on my laptop.

Those fucking green lightning gauntlets, though. So cool.

[Xain88]

Count Silvershroud wrote...

If you have time to be idle, sure, but when you round a corner into a marauder after taking a shot, you don't have time to charge it, you don't have time to switch weapons, and your powers may not be enough to save you if you don't have a reliable stagger power.  I hate having to rely on always having time to charge my weapon.  Because most of the time, I don't.

Same could be said about rounding into a corner while you had the claymore while it needed a reload. lol with the acoylte you always have the time to "idle" since its charge up pretty much doesn't interrup anything or get interuppted. You just need to learn to use it more effectively the scenarios you're trying to describe aren't a short coming of the acoylte but bad situational awareness and movement.

Count Silvershroud wrote...

Or I can SMG for 1/3 of a second then biotic explode.  It's about the same.  The stunning is the only real advantage to the acolyte, but chances are I staggered the target with a power as I started shooting them if I am playing a caster anyways.

The Acolyte is undoubtedly more effective at taking down shields if it is already charged, but if I would need to take more than one shot on a group of enemies, I can do it just as fast with a Hurricane, CSMG, or most of the heavier pistols or lighter SGs because I am not wasting time charging them.  And the SMG/SG apply ammo very effectively themselves.

Really depends on the kit. On fury/valkyrie i don't see how an SMG combo would be faster against mooks considering with the acolyte i can just run in and kill em off with one BE. Plus some of the kits i mentioned above are better with acolyte instead of SMG's.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

Drell adept Acolyte, pull, reave. Probably one of the quickest 6+6 combos in game.

The thing you need to master is charging as soon as the game starts and charge again as soon as you fire a shot.

[OniGanon]

I don't like any of the charge weapons, even if they're really good. The whole charge mechanic just irritates me, and Acolyte most of all because it has no uncharged option.

Ever since the charge mechanic was reinstated for the gun, I've replaced the Acolyte with Talon and Executioner. Surprised me how well the latter works; one body shot to strip most infantry shields, and the follow up power hides the reload.

Modifié par OniGanon, 09 novembre 2013 - 01:02 .

[Peer of the Empire]

Bryn989 wrote...

I kind of feel the same way about it. I know it's awesome, I just don't like charge-based weapons. For the same reason, I'm not a big fan of the Graal, GPS, or Arc Pistol.

Hate it but it's OP as ****

[mybudgee]

Acolyte is like a n00b white flag