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[LuckyBullet95]

@QueenAngel, it is a fact that the Armour Weakening is basically redundant if you take Warp Ammo and weapon piercing.

Shredder Mod: Ignores 65% (32.5) of armour leaving just 12.5 points of damage mitigation. Warp Rounds tthen weaken it by 65% (11,375) leaving just 6.125 points of damage mitigation. 6 points of damage per shot is negligible on snipers, shotguns and most pistols and even the majority of automatic weapons. And those it does effect, it isn't major, no one's ever purposefull went 100% armour mitigation whilst using the Avenger. Also with AR and SMG High Velocity Barrel you ignore 90% of armour leaving 5 points and then weaken it by 65% leaving just 1.75 points of damage mitigation which is always negligible. And this is before Warp's biotic damage bonus.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Notorious P I G wrote...

Dont do it mega.  She'll officially label you as a hater.

I lol'd.

[Pint]

pls stop

[Creator Limbs]

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

debating opinions is pointless, unless someone here is ready to prove their opinion to be fact then its just a pointless circle 

I agree but don't even bother trying to prove anything as fact because I'm still going to do what I think is better so.

[megabeast37215]

prostheticlimbs wrote...

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

debating opinions is pointless, unless someone here is ready to prove their opinion to be fact then its just a pointless circle 

I agree but don't even bother trying to prove anything as fact because I'm still going to do what I think is better so.

Hard for anything in this thread to be absolute fact. It was meant to be thought provoking... Queen can't handle that bc... Ya know... Thinking. She needs a real man (like Confident Cain) to do her thinking for her.

[Creator Limbs]

Ohh, I see.

[viper_veteran]

I actually took the recharge speed on my first huntress platinum solos. She had a particle rifle with warp ammo and piercing mod and an acolyte so that pretty much took care of everything in terms of armour mitigation, cover penetration and bonus damage against barriers.

I took it because I needed to get the biotic explosions out a little bit faster than the default cancelled tactical cloak recharge allowed and those hundreths of a second really counted (dragoon rush). When I huntress I don't always cloak before using a power unless it is something I plan on spending abit of time on taking down so I needed the warp on it's own to be fast. In relation to dragoons they move so fast and sometimes they are so close together that when you dark channel one and try to warp him you end up targeting another dragoon so no BE.

Now though I just take pierce since I have changed to the wraith huntress which has a faster recharge than my particle rifle build. IMO 6b is relevant if you have a long recharge speed and you have an flimsy character with no cyclonics or damage reduction to protect you whilst you wait. I think that it is a choice that someone makes under very specific circumstances but the default is and really should be pierce.

Modifié par viper_veteran, 12 novembre 2013 - 01:00 .

[Max Dmian]

On BE characters I go 6 ranks and Pierce, because I never use weapons on them which would benefit that much or more from recharge speed than from extra damage/weakening - Arc Pistol on the AA, Talon or Acolyte on the HA, Venom on the Shaman, Slasher has Clusters, Huntress has TC, my Valkyrie is specced for Melee.

But when I used the Raider or the Claymore on the Valkyrie I went for recharge speed.

My TSent has only 5 ranks in Warp: Damage and Expose.

[NuclearTech76]

megabeast37215 wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

debating opinions is pointless, unless someone here is ready to prove their opinion to be fact then its just a pointless circle 

I agree but don't even bother trying to prove anything as fact because I'm still going to do what I think is better so.

Hard for anything in this thread to be absolute fact. It was meant to be thought provoking... Queen can't handle that bc... Ya know... Thinking. She needs a real man (like Confident Cain) to do her thinking for her.

Well, this got interesting. I must go back and read the whole thread now.

[NuclearTech76]

XFG-65 wrote...

You will never be able to convince anyone that a 35% quicker cooldown is better than 25% armour debuff!! This is the stupidest thing I have ever read on BSN for sure! I can't believe this is actually being discussed. I feel like I'm being trolled very hard here. I actually believed you were being serious. You win.

If you have a proper weapons setup for piercing etc the only thing that evo is doing is making your teammates weapons more effective. You are actually making your team more efficient killers if they're not setup properly and hurting yourself on the scoreboard.

I take it personally because I am a teamplayer and I run light enough weapons that recharge really doesn't make a huge difference. If I were running a heavy loadout recharge might be more attractive to me.