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 So I'm playing the Priority Sur'Kesh mission right now, and something has been bothering me since the Cerberus attacks: Why is Wrex piloting the Shuttle during the fight? Did Steve decide to take a nap or something?

Anyway, just wanted to know iif there were any other moments like that that anybody noticed. 

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Because Wrex doesn't like to sit around doing nothing and took the controls.

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Killdren88

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What David said...I doubt Steve will say no to a 900 pound Krogan that can easily flatten him.

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What about when James took over on mars as well. Steve must really not like being a shuttle pilot. He seems willing to hand over the controls at the drop of a hat.

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Cobalt2113 wrote...

What about when James took over on mars as well. Steve must really not like being a shuttle pilot. He seems willing to hand over the controls at the drop of a hat.

Steve wasn't on the shuttle then, James was the one flying. Even if Wrex took the controls, to not hear Steve say anything is kinda strange. That and the fact that that wold have been the first time we were privy to Steve's arial combat skills that didn't involve him crashing.

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Steve has a comment about it if you go see him after the mission. Something about an 800 pound Krogan requesting to take the wheel.

What makes me scratch my head on Sur'Kesh is Wrex saying: "I can't land until you take care of that thing. It's too dangerous"

Too dangerous?
Wrex should not know these words.

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Because Cortez's character wasn't developed until the body the Sur'Kesh mission had been allready been done.

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TimtheEnchanter wrote...

Steve has a comment about it if you go see him after the mission. Something about an 800 pound Krogan requesting to take the wheel.

What makes me scratch my head on Sur'Kesh is Wrex saying: "I can't land until you take care of that thing. It's too dangerous"

Too dangerous?
Wrex should not know these words.


I never really did care for the idea of Cortez being pointlessly replaced by Wrex as the pilot of the shuttle on Sur'Kesh. As for the comment about the mech being too dangerous, I just reconcile in my head canon that he's simply referring to the damage it can inflict on the shuttle, which they still need to get off world.

The thing that bugs me most is that Cortez seems to be the only one that ever manages to use the kodiak's side-mounted weapons. If James was piloting it on Rannoch, he'd just fly it straight into the jamming tower.

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TimtheEnchanter wrote...

Steve has a comment about it if you go see him after the mission. Something about an 800 pound Krogan requesting to take the wheel.
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Yes. Definitely talk to Steve after every mission. Also, if you get into a dialogue wheel convo with him, then after you exit out, activate him again in case he also has mission specific dialogue. This goes for all your crew.

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KaiserShep wrote...

The thing that bugs me most is that Cortez seems to be the only one that ever manages to use the kodiak's side-mounted weapons. If James was piloting it on Rannoch, he'd just fly it straight into the jamming tower.


Apparently those Cat6 mercs figured out how to use them.

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I just finished Thane's LM, and it's always kinda weird how easily Kolyat's crimes just "go away".

For a full-on Renegade, I could understand if there was a special possibility to outright blackmail Bailey, but the way Shepard even suggests community service to atone -the disproportionality Bailey even points out- it's kind of odd how quickly he accepts it. The lame Captain Planet wink-and-grin during doesn't help either.

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Anyway, just wanted to know iif there were any other moments like that that anybody noticed.

The whole ME series is full of such events.

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I imagine news coverage of Terra Nova would focus more on the injuries Balak sustained during my Shepard's interrogation of him than on what he did in the first place.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

I imagine news coverage of Terra Nova would focus more on the injuries Balak sustained during my Shepard's interrogation of him than on what he did in the first place.


Got a little rough with him, did we? :innocent:

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Cortez actually does say something about it if you talk to him after the mission.

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Cobalt2113 wrote...

What about when James took over on mars as well. Steve must really not like being a shuttle pilot. He seems willing to hand over the controls at the drop of a hat.


Steve wasn't yet appointed shuttle pilot. IIRC he comments on Vega's stunt as being one of the reasons why he was volunteering for it.

It still doesn't make a lot of sense why he didn't step forward and volunteer to be the shuttle pilot prior to Mars though, given his experience. It would have been better IMO if Vega had joined the Normandy on the first visit to the Citadel rather than someone who was there since the retrofit. The Normandy had left Earth with a skeleton crew so it would make sense that it might take on some additional crewmen during that first visit to the Citadel. Also it would explain why Vega was flying the shuttle at Mars rather than Cortez.

As it is I just head canon that Cortez had been on a supply run to the Citadel for the Normandy's retrofit when the Reaper invasion occurred, and he rejoins the Normandy when it later docks. It works since you don't actually meet Cortez until after the Normandy docks at the Citadel.

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Baelrahn wrote...

I just finished Thane's LM, and it's always kinda weird how easily Kolyat's crimes just "go away".

For a full-on Renegade, I could understand if there was a special possibility to outright blackmail Bailey, but the way Shepard even suggests community service to atone -the disproportionality Bailey even points out- it's kind of odd how quickly he accepts it. The lame Captain Planet wink-and-grin during doesn't help either.

Bailey is a some-what corrupt cop who accepts bribes. He also has father-son issues himself, so it's no surprise he let it slide.

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Does Bailey accept bribes?

I remember him being willing to bend rules or beat suspects in order to clean up the streets of the Citadel's most dangerous wards, but I never got the impression that he was corrupt.

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Yes. Kelham was buying tickets to the C-Sec ball to be left alone

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Han Shot First wrote...

Does Bailey accept bribes?

I remember him being willing to bend rules or beat suspects in order to clean up the streets of the Citadel's most dangerous wards, but I never got the impression that he was corrupt.


All Shepard has to do is wink and suddenly booking is left in the dark.

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I think this segment is written with the expectation that you got your Spectre status back TBH. Makes perfect sense this stuff would be overlooked when a Spectre is doing the urging.

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cap and gown wrote...

TimtheEnchanter wrote...

Steve has a comment about it if you go see him after the mission. Something about an 800 pound Krogan requesting to take the wheel.
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Yes. Definitely talk to Steve after every mission. Also, if you get into a dialogue wheel convo with him, then after you exit out, activate him again in case he also has mission specific dialogue. This goes for all your crew.

Ah. I got the dialogue wheel and was too busy plotting our *ahem* his shore leave to talk to him again

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Han Shot First wrote...

Cobalt2113 wrote...

What about when James took over on mars as well. Steve must really not like being a shuttle pilot. He seems willing to hand over the controls at the drop of a hat.


Steve wasn't yet appointed shuttle pilot. IIRC he comments on Vega's stunt as being one of the reasons why he was volunteering for it.

It still doesn't make a lot of sense why he didn't step forward and volunteer to be the shuttle pilot prior to Mars though, given his experience. It would have been better IMO if Vega had joined the Normandy on the first visit to the Citadel rather than someone who was there since the retrofit. The Normandy had left Earth with a skeleton crew so it would make sense that it might take on some additional crewmen during that first visit to the Citadel. Also it would explain why Vega was flying the shuttle at Mars rather than Cortez.

As it is I just head canon that Cortez had been on a supply run to the Citadel for the Normandy's retrofit when the Reaper invasion occurred, and he rejoins the Normandy when it later docks. It works since you don't actually meet Cortez until after the Normandy docks at the Citadel.


Not when you talk to him in the shuttle bay and Shep asks about his history and he says she already knows him. Her reply is she "didn't have access to personnel records in Detention." So he is obviously someone attached to her "house arrest" in the Detention Center...
Which is kinda off key anyway as later she tells someone she was under "house arrest" yet came out of the Detention Center in the prologue. /shrug. Maybe her saying "house arrest" was the easiest way to answer that question, though.

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Deathsaurer wrote...

I think this segment is written with the expectation that you got your Spectre status back TBH. Makes perfect sense this stuff would be overlooked when a Spectre is doing the urging.


Well, yes. That helps a bit.

I think the best explanation would be Bailey thinking to himself that if Shepard had really wanted this to go away, it ultimately would; one way or the other.

@Han Shot First:
I disagree - there is hardly a thing like "bending" any rules in my opinion. I admittedly haven't seen much in my mid twenties, but I feel most of the times this term is employed, it's just a person too ashamed to simply accept the fact - You break a rule or you don't. And you know it when you do.

Make no mistake, Bailey has his heart in the right place, and he definitely isn't morally  corrupt. But making deals with people who perfectly retain their contenance when accused of placing a hit on someone for purely strategical reasons, lift the man way out of the "cop that overlooks guidelines to bypass bureaucracy"-zone. It's more comfortable when people like Kelham stay out of his way, and that's all it is.

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Why doesn't the Virmire survivor get abducted in 2? VS gets frozen, same as everyone else around them. *shrug*