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Desire Demons : A matter of succubi and incubi.


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#126
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I think it's funny the gay guys are always the ones complaining about female representation.lmao...

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I have nothing against it but I wouldn't put it priority. They are other amcore areas that the team needs to concentrate on. In all honesty addition of a Desire Demon is not one of them.

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wolfhowwl wrote...

The desire demon could change forms based on the gender of the character you romanced.


I can dig that.

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wolfhowwl wrote...

The desire demon could change forms based on the gender of the character you romanced.


Or the PC could just laugh at it and say, "Nice try, but that won't work on me."  After which, it morphs and you lose -10 willpower for the upcoming battle...B)

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TipsLeFedora wrote...

I have nothing against it but I wouldn't put it priority. They are other amcore areas that the team needs to concentrate on. In all honesty addition of a Desire Demon is not one of them.


And I agree. But that doesn't mean that we can't talk about what we would like to see happen. It'd be different if we were making actual demands of Bioware to put X or Y in the game, or else.

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I ask of you people, please restrain yourselves !!! If you are reading this posts and are unable to express your criticism in a constructive, non-offesive way to a larger or smaller part of the community please restrain yourself until able to and, if not, there are other threads in the BSN where you can express your opinions.

As for the people that have to coup with certain individuals that are unable or have the missfortune to make a comment that doesn't sound as good as it sounded in their head or a comment/affirmation that my come as insulting to you or any other part of the community, please ignore them/it. I know that sometimes it might be hard, but please try to be the better man ( or woman ).

Now let's fight against our human nature and try to be civilized so that we don't get this post locked.

Thank you.

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:27 .


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FreshIstay wrote...

I think it's funny the gay guys are always the ones complaining about female representation.lmao...


Not seeing the humor there...

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Icy Magebane wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

How would this even work? If your average straight player runs into male stripper desire demon the whole succubus angle really doesn't work.


Personally I find it just as offensive to assume straight women would be okay with only seeing female demons... or are we just going to accept that "chicks dig other chicks?"

Everyone knows that all women harbour secret lesbian tendencies.

Ancient writings mention a female-exclusive practice known as the 'sleepover', where women would meet to engage in sexual activity with each other, as part of an elaborate ritual involving a particular ceremonial garb, and symbolic gladiatorial combat with cushions in place of traditional weapons.

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eluvianix wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

I have nothing against it but I wouldn't put it priority. They are other amcore areas that the team needs to concentrate on. In all honesty addition of a Desire Demon is not one of them.


And I agree. But that doesn't mean that we can't talk about what we would like to see happen. It'd be different if we were making actual demands of Bioware to put X or Y in the game, or else.

I didn't imply you couldn't though. If it happens it happens if it does not then it does not. However, an addition at this point seems unrealistic, they seem to have their hands full in terms of development.

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Desire demons are perfect as they are, leave them be. She is a strong an independant demon who don't need no man (sorta).


LMAO, I see what you did there.

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TipsLeFedora wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

I have nothing against it but I wouldn't put it priority. They are other amcore areas that the team needs to concentrate on. In all honesty addition of a Desire Demon is not one of them.


And I agree. But that doesn't mean that we can't talk about what we would like to see happen. It'd be different if we were making actual demands of Bioware to put X or Y in the game, or else.

I didn't imply you couldn't though. If it happens it happens if it does not then it does not. However, an addition at this point seems unrealistic, they seem to have their hands full in terms of development.


Hey, with the extra year they added in the Qunari. Who knows what else they could add?:P

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Plaintiff wrote...
Since a decent portion of gamers are gays and heterosexual women, the deisgn is already flawed in its assumption that the female form is inherently desirable.

Yet the majority of players are still heterosexual males. And if there is going to be a succubus attempting it's usual behavior, that is the most probable "target" in regards to who is playing the PC.

Icy Magebane wrote...
Personally I find it just as offensive to assume straight women would be okay with only seeing female demons... or are we just going to accept that "chicks dig other chicks?"

The way I see it working, is just looking at the demons as representing ideal beauty, both male and female.  Maybe it's tempting you by showing you the perfection that you could have if you accept his offer?  Sexual lust isn't the only way desire demons tempt mortals...

Everybody is offended by something or another. True, you could have the male desire demon appear if the PC is female. However there are still a lot of straight male gamers who play female characters out there, and they may be looking for some lesbomancy. As for the desire demon showing what it has to offer, maybe it could work, but Bioware would have to avoid giving off a "it's a trap" vibe. I don't think that's the sort of trap they're aiming for.

wolfhowwl wrote...
The desire demon could change forms based on the gender of the character you romanced.

That would probably make the most sense. Expect somebody to complain about it being offensive to bisexual players shortly.

Modifié par Inquisitor Recon, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:30 .


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eluvianix wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

I have nothing against it but I wouldn't put it priority. They are other amcore areas that the team needs to concentrate on. In all honesty addition of a Desire Demon is not one of them.


And I agree. But that doesn't mean that we can't talk about what we would like to see happen. It'd be different if we were making actual demands of Bioware to put X or Y in the game, or else.

I didn't imply you couldn't though. If it happens it happens if it does not then it does not. However, an addition at this point seems unrealistic, they seem to have their hands full in terms of development.


Hey, with the extra year they added in the Qunari. Who knows what else they could add?:P

Haha a year is not really enough. A year and a half would have been enough IMO

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@Plaintiff - lol... I knew falling asleep in history class was a mistake.

@Inquisitor Recon - I honestly don't know how to respond to that.  I just think that it would appease both parties, or all 3, or however many are actually involved, while giving us another demon skin and possibly some varied combat.  There's no need to view it as exclusively sexual.  And I would really like to fight that guy in the OP...

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:33 .


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Plaintiff wrote...

Shall we run towards each other in slow motion, through a field of tulips?

Yes, let's! (and if you're running toward the hottie behind me, I'll be so sad)


wolfhowwl wrote...

The desire demon could change forms based on the gender of the character you romanced.

Seems to be a most workable solution =)


Plaintiff wrote...

Everyone knows that all women harbour secret lesbian tendencies. 

Ancient writings mention a female-exclusive practice known as the 'sleepover', where women would meet to engage in sexual activity with each other, as part of an elaborate ritual involving a particular ceremonial garb, and symbolic gladiatorial combat with cushions in place of traditional weapons.

Suddenly, I understand why I have these ME2 Grunt-like feelings. I never went through my rite of passage!

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TipsLeFedora wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

I have nothing against it but I wouldn't put it priority. They are other amcore areas that the team needs to concentrate on. In all honesty addition of a Desire Demon is not one of them.


And I agree. But that doesn't mean that we can't talk about what we would like to see happen. It'd be different if we were making actual demands of Bioware to put X or Y in the game, or else.

I didn't imply you couldn't though. If it happens it happens if it does not then it does not. However, an addition at this point seems unrealistic, they seem to have their hands full in terms of development.


Hey, with the extra year they added in the Qunari. Who knows what else they could add?:P

Haha a year is not really enough. A year and a half would have been enough IMO


Still better than releasing it this year, no?;)
Although, I still really wanna play it even more knowing it was to originally come out this year.

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...
Yet the majority of players are still heterosexual males. And if there is going to be a succubus attempting it's usual behavior, that is the most probable "target" in regards to who is playing the PC.


So...?

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eluvianix wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

I have nothing against it but I wouldn't put it priority. They are other amcore areas that the team needs to concentrate on. In all honesty addition of a Desire Demon is not one of them.


And I agree. But that doesn't mean that we can't talk about what we would like to see happen. It'd be different if we were making actual demands of Bioware to put X or Y in the game, or else.

I didn't imply you couldn't though. If it happens it happens if it does not then it does not. However, an addition at this point seems unrealistic, they seem to have their hands full in terms of development.


Hey, with the extra year they added in the Qunari. Who knows what else they could add?:P

Haha a year is not really enough. A year and a half would have been enough IMO


Still better than releasing it this year, no?;)
Although, I still really wanna play it even more knowing it was to originally come out this year.


Good they are taking time. Developing a game for a year and then incorporating new elements as well as previous elements takes time. I'm going with Qunari neutral evil templar myself.

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wolfhowwl wrote...

The desire demon could change forms based on the gender of the character you romanced.


This would be nice.

Seeing the desire demon fondle herself made me want a "Yeah not feeling remotely attracted to that honey." dialogue choice.
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#145
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Inb4 Bioware causes DA:I to look through your hard drive until it finds your porn cache in order to implement the right desire demon.

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...
Since a decent portion of gamers are gays and heterosexual women, the deisgn is already flawed in its assumption that the female form is inherently desirable.

Yet the majority of players are still heterosexual males. And if there is going to be a succubus attempting it's usual behavior, that is the most probable "target" in regards to who is playing the PC.

Icy Magebane wrote...
Personally I find it just as offensive to assume straight women would be okay with only seeing female demons... or are we just going to accept that "chicks dig other chicks?"

The way I see it working, is just looking at the demons as representing ideal beauty, both male and female.  Maybe it's tempting you by showing you the perfection that you could have if you accept his offer?  Sexual lust isn't the only way desire demons tempt mortals...

Everybody is offended by something or another. True, you could have the male desire demon appear if the PC is female. However there are still a lot of straight male gamers who play female characters out there, and they may be looking for some lesbomancy. As for the desire demon showing what it has to offer, maybe it could work, but Bioware would have to avoid giving off a "it's a trap" vibe. I don't think that's the sort of trap they're aiming for.

wolfhowwl wrote...
The desire demon could change forms based on the gender of the character you romanced.

That would probably make the most sense. Expect somebody to complain about it being offensive to bisexual players shortly.


wolfhowwl made a very good point. The Desire Demon could change forms depending on who the character romanced or flirted ( I think it would be better if they take in consideration just the flirting). And to resolve the problem you bring forth - Why just one Desire Demon ? Why not two ? I'm pretty sure that would cover all the problems you've mentioned :P

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:36 .


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Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Yet the majority of players are still heterosexual males. And if there is going to be a succubus attempting it's usual behavior, that is the most probable "target" in regards to who is playing the PC.


Agreed, that's why Bioware will target it's main audience. Plus I don't think demons have genders, so it's a pointless discussion.

Modifié par Star fury, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:43 .


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I too don't mind others having the option to see the version of the Desire demon they want, but how would you make it work?

I suppose you could an option at the character creation screen which would let you pick a preference, after picking your gender. This might involve a bit of work on the developers' side, but then again, Bioware has been trying to make everyone with any preference happy.

Having said that, I definitely do not want to see naked male desire demons in the game at random. *shivers*

Modifié par TurretSyndrome, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:43 .


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Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Inb4 Bioware causes DA:I to look through your hard drive until it finds your porn cache in order to implement the right desire demon.


Cool. Bioware could recycle the horse model for you then.

(shooting fish in a barrel here)

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:56 .