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[Kidd]

I don't want to sound like I'm speaking for all multisexuals out there, but I don't see how there needs to be two desire demons on screen. Being multisexual implies to me that either kind of demon is fair game, ie game design-wise you could say we're less picky.

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Yet the majority of players are still heterosexual males.

Less than 5% of players picked either dwarven origin (that's 33% of the game's origin resources being used by less than 5% of the player base). Would you also say that including dwarven, and probably even elven, protagonists are an utter waste of time? They are, after all, less popular than the game itself seems to be with gay men and women.

[TheBlackBaron]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Inb4 Bioware causes DA:I to look through your hard drive until it finds your porn cache in order to implement the right desire demon.

Stop angling to get Bioware to implement a Molestia Desire Demon, Recon. 

[Kidd]

TurretSyndrome wrote...

Having said that, I definitely do not want to see naked male desire demons in the game at random. *shivers*

Does that mean you sympathise with those who do not appreciate naked female desire demons? Would you be for their exclusion?

Note, I don't want them excluded. I'm just checking for consistency.

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Stop angling to get Bioware to implement a Molestia Desire Demon, Recon. 

To be fair, Molestia is probably the strongest demon there is. Such a perfect mix of desire and pride rolled into one

And who doesn't want to meet such a demon? If nothing else, just imagine the loot!

[Hellion Rex]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

TurretSyndrome wrote...

Having said that, I definitely do not want to see naked male desire demons in the game at random. *shivers*

Does that mean you sympathise with those who do not appreciate naked female desire demons? Would you be for their exclusion?

Note, I don't want them excluded. I'm just checking for consistency.

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Stop angling to get Bioware to implement a Molestia Desire Demon, Recon. 

To be fair, Molestia is probably the strongest demon there is. Such a perfect mix of desire and pride rolled into one

And who doesn't want to meet such a demon? If nothing else, just imagine the loot!

Should I be scared to ask who Molestia is?

[Vulpe]

TurretSyndrome wrote...

I too don't mind others having the option to see the version of the Desire demon they want, but how would you make it work?

I suppose you could an option at the character creation screen which would let you pick a preference, after picking your gender. This might involve a bit of work on the developers' side, but then again, Bioware has been trying to make everyone with any preference happy.

Having said that, I definitely do not want to see naked male desire demons in the game at random. *shivers*

I think people are focusing to much on a possible one time encounter where you might have a dialogue with one.

That, I think, is pretty much resolved :

1) Monitor the characters the players are flirting with.

2) Add two Desire Demon in the encounter.

3) Only female flirting : two female demons . Only male flirting : two male demons. Female and male flirting : one male, one female. Everyone is happy.

The rest of the game there would be just random alteration between the two variaties.Regarding the looks of the possible "naked male desire demons" - I think that something like the picture from my original post is a pretty good compromise.

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:50 .

[TheBlackBaron]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

To be fair, Molestia is probably the strongest demon there is. Such a perfect mix of desire and pride rolled into one

And who doesn't want to meet such a demon? If nothing else, just imagine the loot!

You. I like you.

But what kind of stats would a Big Crown Thingy have anyways? 

[AlexanderCousland]

If you want a Male Demon, Kool...It's a new Demon.
If you want a Male Desire DEMON because of lgbt representation, you need to reevaluate your priorities, I would like to think you guys had your sights set higher than that. You guys deserve better than a Desire Demon lmao

[Bayonet Hipshot]

I honestly think the Desire Demon, well in fact all the demons of the fade be androgynous. The reason is that they are demons, not sexually dimorphic biological beings.

So in the case of the Desire Demon, IMO, it should be androgynous. Desire is universal. It can be both masculine and feminine. It can be sexual. It can be power. It can be wealth.

Bottom line is that Desire, Rage, Sloth, Pride, Despair...They are not sexually dimorphic. They are universal. So their designs should reflect that.

[Vulpe]

FreshIstay wrote...

If you want a Male Demon, Kool...It's a new Demon.
If you want a Male Desire DEMON because of lgbt representation, you need to reevaluate your priorities, I would like to think you guys had your sights set higher than that. You guys deserve better than a Desire Demon lmao

They could add a different attack patern so that you would need a different strategy when fighting them. They could be more mele focused while the females more ranged, magic focused ( just trowing ideeas around  ).

[Ryzaki]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Inb4 Bioware causes DA:I to look through your hard drive until it finds your porn cache in order to implement the right desire demon.

But the furry p0rnz D: 

...seriously it would be worth it to see how the Desire Demon ends up looking in that case.

[Ser Galv]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

To be fair, Molestia is probably the strongest demon there is. Such a perfect mix of desire and pride rolled into one

And who doesn't want to meet such a demon? If nothing else, just imagine the loot!

You. I like you.

But what kind of stats would a Big Crown Thingy have anyways? 

9999 Privilege.

[CS420]

wolfhowwl wrote...

• Limp black hair, probably emo.
• Too many pet dogs, possibly a hoarder.
• Too lazy to pull the weeds off her own body, terrible gardener.
• Creepy eyes.
• Is that a cockroach on her chest?
• Her house is a wreck.

2/10 would not bang.

[Star fury]

JulianWellpit wrote...

TurretSyndrome wrote...

I too don't mind others having the option to see the version of the Desire demon they want, but how would you make it work?

I suppose you could an option at the character creation screen which would let you pick a preference, after picking your gender. This might involve a bit of work on the developers' side, but then again, Bioware has been trying to make everyone with any preference happy.

Having said that, I definitely do not want to see naked male desire demons in the game at random. *shivers*

I think people are focusing to much on a possible one time encounter where you might have a dialogue with one.

That, I think, is pretty much resolved :

1) Monitor the characters the players are flirting with.

2) Add two Desire Demon in the encounter.

3) Only female flirting : two female demons . Only male flirting : two male demons. Female and male flirting : one male, one female. Everyone is happy.

The rest of the game there would be just random alteration between the two variaties.Regarding the looks of the possible "naked male desire demons" - I think that something like the picture from my original post is a pretty good compromise.

Not going to happen cause it's a needless timesink. Demons don't have genders.

[Fredward]

FreshIstay wrote...
If you want a Male Demon, Kool...It's a new Demon.
If you want a Male Desire DEMON because of lgbt representation, you need to reevaluate your priorities, I would like to think you guys had your sights set higher than that. You guys deserve better than a Desire Demon lmao

Actually changing how the media presents the norm should be/is a pretty high priority.

[Ser Galv]

Ryzaki wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Inb4 Bioware causes DA:I to look through your hard drive until it finds your porn cache in order to implement the right desire demon.

But the furry p0rnz D: 

...seriously it would be worth it to see how the Desire Demon ends up looking in that case.

In Recon's case, something like this.

[Hellion Rex]

Star fury wrote...

JulianWellpit wrote...

TurretSyndrome wrote...

I too don't mind others having the option to see the version of the Desire demon they want, but how would you make it work?

I suppose you could an option at the character creation screen which would let you pick a preference, after picking your gender. This might involve a bit of work on the developers' side, but then again, Bioware has been trying to make everyone with any preference happy.

Having said that, I definitely do not want to see naked male desire demons in the game at random. *shivers*

I think people are focusing to much on a possible one time encounter where you might have a dialogue with one.

That, I think, is pretty much resolved :

1) Monitor the characters the players are flirting with.

2) Add two Desire Demon in the encounter.

3) Only female flirting : two female demons . Only male flirting : two male demons. Female and male flirting : one male, one female. Everyone is happy.

The rest of the game there would be just random alteration between the two variaties.Regarding the looks of the possible "naked male desire demons" - I think that something like the picture from my original post is a pretty good compromise.

Not going to happen cause it's a needless timesink. Demons don't have genders.

Mhmm, and yet we still have a hyper sexualized desire demon that for all intents and purposes appears to be female.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Giant spider people? That's your fetish. I've seen the emails.

Foopydoopydoo wrote...
Actually changing how the media presents the norm should be/is a pretty high priority.

No, in fact stuff like that shouldn't even be on their priority list.

Modifié par Inquisitor Recon, 11 novembre 2013 - 10:10 .

[AlexanderCousland]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...
If you want a Male Demon, Kool...It's a new Demon.
If you want a Male Desire DEMON because of lgbt representation, you need to reevaluate your priorities, I would like to think you guys had your sights set higher than that. You guys deserve better than a Desire Demon lmao

Actually changing how the media presents the norm should be/is a pretty high priority.

It's only a priority for people whom, for whatever reason, dont feel normal.

[Hellion Rex]

FreshIstay wrote...

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...
If you want a Male Demon, Kool...It's a new Demon.
If you want a Male Desire DEMON because of lgbt representation, you need to reevaluate your priorities, I would like to think you guys had your sights set higher than that. You guys deserve better than a Desire Demon lmao

Actually changing how the media presents the norm should be/is a pretty high priority.

It's only a priority for people whom, for whatever reason, dont feel normal.

I don't know.. I feel pretty "normal" right now.

[TurretSyndrome]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Does that mean you sympathise with those who do not appreciate naked female desire demons? Would you be for their exclusion?

I do sympathise with people who would feel the same as I. Just because we prefer different genders doesn't change anything.

As a straight male, I don't want to be forced to look at a naked male even if it is just a demon. In the same way I can understand if gays or straight females feel uncomfortable looking at a naked female. 

[Fredward]

FreshIstay wrote...
It's only a priority for people whom, for whatever reason, dont feel normal.

They don't feel normal because they're not presented as normal, hence the need to change popular perception.

Inquisitor Recon wrote...
No, in fact stuff like that shouldn't even be on their priority list.

I await your exposition with bated breath.

Modifié par Foopydoopydoo, 11 novembre 2013 - 10:17 .

[AlexanderCousland]

eluvianix wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...
If you want a Male Demon, Kool...It's a new Demon.
If you want a Male Desire DEMON because of lgbt representation, you need to reevaluate your priorities, I would like to think you guys had your sights set higher than that. You guys deserve better than a Desire Demon lmao

Actually changing how the media presents the norm should be/is a pretty high priority.

It's only a priority for people whom, for whatever reason, dont feel normal.

I don't know.. I feel pretty "normal" right now.

Good. Why shouldn't you?

[Star fury]

eluvianix wrote...

Star fury wrote...

JulianWellpit wrote...

TurretSyndrome wrote...

I too don't mind others having the option to see the version of the Desire demon they want, but how would you make it work?

I suppose you could an option at the character creation screen which would let you pick a preference, after picking your gender. This might involve a bit of work on the developers' side, but then again, Bioware has been trying to make everyone with any preference happy.

Having said that, I definitely do not want to see naked male desire demons in the game at random. *shivers*

I think people are focusing to much on a possible one time encounter where you might have a dialogue with one.

That, I think, is pretty much resolved :

1) Monitor the characters the players are flirting with.

2) Add two Desire Demon in the encounter.

3) Only female flirting : two female demons . Only male flirting : two male demons. Female and male flirting : one male, one female. Everyone is happy.

The rest of the game there would be just random alteration between the two variaties.Regarding the looks of the possible "naked male desire demons" - I think that something like the picture from my original post is a pretty good compromise.

Not going to happen cause it's a needless timesink. Demons don't have genders.

Mhmm, and yet we still have a hyper sexualized desire demon that for all intents and purposes appears to be female.

Yes, problem?

[Kidd]

eluvianix wrote...

Should I be scared to ask who Molestia is?

It's a joke alter ego derived off Princess Celestia, the reigning monarch in My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. She's usually up to no good just like her other fan-made alter ego, Princess Trollestia. But she tends to end up in situations more related to her name (albeit not quite as forcefully as the name implies). You can see an example with implied NSFW content yet absolutely nothing graphic here, based off an actual episode where Rarity showers Celestia in kisses to express gratitude.

(this sounds so much worse than it actually is x_X I suck at explaining)

TheBlackBaron wrote...

You. I like you.

But what kind of stats would a Big Crown Thingy have anyways? 

Took you until now to notice my Qunicorn avatar? =)

As for the stats, I don't know. She pretty much has divine power, right? So it'd give stat boosts that at least rivalled Meredith's red lyrium idol.

TurretSyndrome wrote...

I do sympathise with people who would feel the same as I. Just because we prefer different genders doesn't change anything.

Does that mean you would support a theoretical future removal of the desire demon as we know them to look today?