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[The Hierophant]

Schneidend wrote...

You know, it's kinda growing on me. So out of character, though. Is it from some kind of bizarre Evangelion doujinshi?

I don't know but the ooc of her expression is what i find hilarious about the pic.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 11 novembre 2013 - 06:05 .

[Fredward]

The Xand wrote...
You're kidding? Felicia Day plays exactly the same thing in literally everything, except sometimes they give her martial arts skills to add something vaguely substantial to her hackneyed quirky nerdy girl personality trope she always has. She's just a nerd's wet dream and plays on that ruthlessly.

She's played characters in House, Dollhouse, Eureka, Monk, Buffy and Supernatural. And those are just the popular ones. And not even mentioning the movies. Some of them share the dorky girl persona, some do not. None of which have much to do with Tallis btw, cept the quirkiness. She didn't mention video games even once!

[Maria Caliban]

celestial_emperor wrote...
My question is, oh forum watching fans, can you give any reason why a woman who's interesting in appearing in the video game industry would want their visage in Inquisition or any future Bioware game?

Actors, as opposed to to voice actors, are a visual brand. Actors would want their face in a game for the same reason Coca-Cola and Apple like to stick their label and products into movies - even bad movies - because it boosts their frequency.

[celestial_emperor]

Well, I did seriously consider how awesome it would be for Lucy Lawless to play a character in Dragon Age (probably not as a version of herself, but that could be pretty awesome).

I think Lawless could probably beat some dweebs around. That was fairly productive from Xand.

[The Xand]

HiroVoid wrote...

.....Leliana looks like every other female in Dragon Age because there was only one body model. And how do they not look like they could fight? It's not like they were both heaving around two-handed swords.

Nobody in Dragon Age could realistically heave those two handed swords around. Was hilarious watching my Dalish elf swing his around like it was the ****ing Titanic. Leliana just looked...not convincing. They could have beefed her up a bit or made her less annoying or...just anything really. She sucked. I liked Aveline and Merrill from DA2 so much better. Aveline esp since she was a convincing strong woman, in body and spirit. Leliana and Isabella are just titilating treats to romance, coming in French and pirate flavours.

EntropicAngel wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

No one's taking Xand seriously.
At least I hope not. lulz

I'm pretty sure everyone stopped taking him seriously when he began his crusade against the Maker.

Zealot.

Modifié par The Xand, 11 novembre 2013 - 06:06 .

[HiroVoid]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

.....Leliana looks like every other female in Dragon Age because there was only one body model.

Well, there was that one fat cook in Arl Eamon's house in Denerim.

Oh right.  And Lloyd.  Humans technically got two fat variants of their models then.

[AlexanderCousland]

Plaintiff wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

*peeks head in*

Isn't it funny how every female protagonist looking good is sexist, but every male protagonist looking good isn't?

Yeah, no. Many male protagonists would in fact be considered "ugly" by our modern, Western standard of beauty, which, even for men, advocates slim, toned physiques with no body hair.

That's like saying Danny Trejo and Johnny Depp must be regarded as equally attractive because they both star in movies.

No...The real funny part is that Men usually dont take time out to complain about how We, as a whole, are being presented. We don't care how Male protagonists are portrayed, we aren't worried that a Male protagonist might say, do, or wear something that disrespect's Manhood as an entire gender....Why dont we...well...because that's silly.

[The Xand]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

The Xand wrote...
You're kidding? Felicia Day plays exactly the same thing in literally everything, except sometimes they give her martial arts skills to add something vaguely substantial to her hackneyed quirky nerdy girl personality trope she always has. She's just a nerd's wet dream and plays on that ruthlessly.

She's played characters in House, Dollhouse, Eureka, Monk, Buffy and Supernatural. And those are just the popular ones. And not even mentioning the movies. Some of them share the dorky girl persona, some do not. None of which have much to do with Tallis btw, cept the quirkiness. She didn't mention video games even once!

Aye and they're all the same. Quirky nerdy girl fantasy. The Supernatural one irritated me esp, since they just shoehorned her and made darn tooting clear we know just how much she likes games and how quirky she is. As annoying as that purple haired girl from Scott Pilgrim Vs the World.

EntropicAngel wrote...

The Xand wrote...

Zealot.

I
prefer fanatic. Or <insert religious terms typically used
derogatively but would take the discussion offtopic even further>

Zealot works, though.

c(_)

Modifié par The Xand, 11 novembre 2013 - 06:10 .

[The Hierophant]

bobobo878 wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

The Xand wrote...
He's sexist because he's an unrealistic and disproportionately muscular example of masculinity. God help us all should videogames ever include idealistic stereotypes of either gender.

No he's not, you're thinking of Chris Redfield.

Leave Chris alone! It's not his fault that he became addicted to steroids after Wesker emasculated him.

But did he really have to punch that poor boulder the way he did?

Meh it was payback. He knows what the boulder's friends tried to do to Leon back in Spain.

[HiroVoid]

The Xand wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

.....Leliana looks like every other female in Dragon Age because there was only one body model. And how do they not look like they could fight? It's not like they were both heaving around two-handed swords.

Nobody in Dragon Age could realistically heave those two handed swords around. Was hilarious watching my Dalish elf swing his around like it was the ****ing Titanic. Leliana just looked...not convincing. They could have beefed her up a bit or made her less annoying or...just anything really. She sucked. I liked Aveline and Merrill from DA2 so much better. Aveline esp since she was a convincing strong woman, in body and spirit. Leliana and Isabella are just titilating treats to romance, coming in French and pirate flavours.

If that's the case then, wouldn't that just simply be a case of disliking the characters rather than saying they don't look like they can fight?  Dragon Age certainly isn't meant to be some realism simulator.  As far as character-wise goes, I do admit I like Leliana's conflict on how she's trying to decide if she wants to go the more chantry 'helping people' persona or going back to her bard persona. 

[celestial_emperor]

Maria Caliban wrote...

celestial_emperor wrote...
My question is, oh forum watching fans, can you give any reason why a woman who's interesting in appearing in the video game industry would want their visage in Inquisition or any future Bioware game?

Actors, as opposed to to voice actors, are a visual brand. Actors would want their face in a game for the same reason Coca-Cola and Apple like to stick their label and products into movies - even bad movies - because it boosts their frequency.

Yay! Someone addressing my original question again! 
It's a good point though, I guess it adds to visibility. It works both ways, too, I heard awful things about Dragon Age 2 from this forum and other places but I gave it a try because one of my favorite actresses was in a DLC.

But if it's a toss up between really great and terrible, who would jump for joy at that?

[HiroVoid]

FreshIstay wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

*peeks head in*

Isn't it funny how every female protagonist looking good is sexist, but every male protagonist looking good isn't?

Yeah, no. Many male protagonists would in fact be considered "ugly" by our modern, Western standard of beauty, which, even for men, advocates slim, toned physiques with no body hair.

That's like saying Danny Trejo and Johnny Depp must be regarded as equally attractive because they both star in movies.

No...The real funny part is that Men usually dont take time out to complain about how We, as a whole, are being presented. We don't care how Male protagonists are portrayed, we aren't worried that a Male protagonist might say, do, or wear something that disrespect's Manhood as an entire gender....Why dont we...well...because that's silly.

That's not actually true depending on where you look for it.  You'll find plenty of people who complain about the physical appearance of male characters in the Final Fantasy series and plenty of other JRPGs.

[Xilizhra]

FreshIstay wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

*peeks head in*

Isn't it funny how every female protagonist looking good is sexist, but every male protagonist looking good isn't?

Yeah, no. Many male protagonists would in fact be considered "ugly" by our modern, Western standard of beauty, which, even for men, advocates slim, toned physiques with no body hair.

That's like saying Danny Trejo and Johnny Depp must be regarded as equally attractive because they both star in movies.

No...The real funny part is that Men usually dont take time out to complain about how We, as a whole, are being presented. We don't care how Male protagonists are portrayed, we aren't worried that a Male protagonist might say, do, or wear something that disrespect's Manhood as an entire gender....Why dont we...well...because that's silly.

Well, that's because you have oodles of content representing exactly what you want already.

[The Xand]

FreshIstay wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

*peeks head in*

Isn't it funny how every female protagonist looking good is sexist, but every male protagonist looking good isn't?

Yeah, no. Many male protagonists would in fact be considered "ugly" by our modern, Western standard of beauty, which, even for men, advocates slim, toned physiques with no body hair.

That's like saying Danny Trejo and Johnny Depp must be regarded as equally attractive because they both star in movies.

No...The real funny part is that Men usually dont take time out to complain about how We, as a whole, are being presented. We don't care how Male protagonists are portrayed, we aren't worried that a Male protagonist might say, do, or wear something that disrespect's Manhood as an entire gender....Why dont we...well...because that's silly.

Thank you! To add to that I'd like to point out that girls being girly isn't a male construct. I don't care if girls wear makeup or what they're really wearing, but their own magazines are full of crap like that. Relationship advice, sex, fashion, gossip and so on. Even female forums are scarily like that. Is it still sexist if it's women that are enforcing the stereotypes of their gender?

Modifié par The Xand, 11 novembre 2013 - 06:19 .

[HiroVoid]

celestial_emperor wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

celestial_emperor wrote...
My question is, oh forum watching fans, can you give any reason why a woman who's interesting in appearing in the video game industry would want their visage in Inquisition or any future Bioware game?

Actors, as opposed to to voice actors, are a visual brand. Actors would want their face in a game for the same reason Coca-Cola and Apple like to stick their label and products into movies - even bad movies - because it boosts their frequency.

Yay! Someone addressing my original question again! 
It's a good point though, I guess it adds to visibility. It works both ways, too, I heard awful things about Dragon Age 2 from this forum and other places but I gave it a try because one of my favorite actresses was in a DLC.

But if it's a toss up between really great and terrible, who would jump for joy at that?

Well, while I don't personally care for it, I guess that works since that was a big part of the advertisement for Mark of the Assassin which was trying to get Felcia Day fans on board.

[Xilizhra]

Thank you! To add to that I'd like to point out that girls being girly isn't a male construct. I don't care if girls wear makeup or what they're really wearing, but their own magazines are full of crap like that. Relationship advice, sex, fashion, gossip and so on. Even female forums are scarily like that. Is it still sexist if it's women that are enforcing the stereotypes of their gender?

Yes, assuming it's for the wrong reasons. But I've heard men unleash hell numerous times on women who don't fit certain standards of attractiveness... for instance, on this very site, Jennifer Hepler.

[jncicesp]

The Xand wrote...

jncicesp wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

*peeks head in*

Isn't it funny how every female protagonist looking good is sexist, but every male protagonist looking good isn't?

I dont think I like forums like this, but I think people usually focus making a male character cool and just strong and whatever thing people think is a hero ish thing to be that just happens to be attractive

With a female character they go out of their way more to just make them just attractive and maybe for it to "make sense"... as opposed to Awesome looking and just by happenstance be attractive to people.

I'd rather they just made women in games frumpy and normal looking rather than hyper sexualised to appeal to men, or hyper girly to appeal to girls. Gimme someone that looks like she genuinely could smack some dweebs around, not someone like Leliana or Tallis who are sexist representations of women.

Was Tallis was sexist? 
I thought they only used Felicia dayslooks for like advertising..they had a show or something leading up for it 

I just think MOST people wold rather have a character whos female just appeal cause of attrativnes making it what people should be like... idk if that really has to do with Dragon age though, Origins I can see but that was a long time ago.

Modifié par jncicesp, 11 novembre 2013 - 06:20 .

[celestial_emperor]

Yes, a good reason to give women pause for appearing in any video game is showing them what happens in a video game forum if you say "Anita Sarkeesian" or "Jennifer Hepler."

[HiroVoid]

Xilizhra wrote...

Thank you! To add to that I'd like to point out that girls being girly isn't a male construct. I don't care if girls wear makeup or what they're really wearing, but their own magazines are full of crap like that. Relationship advice, sex, fashion, gossip and so on. Even female forums are scarily like that. Is it still sexist if it's women that are enforcing the stereotypes of their gender?

Yes, assuming it's for the wrong reasons. But I've heard men unleash hell numerous times on women who don't fit certain standards of attractiveness... for instance, on this very site, Jennifer Hepler.

What are the wrong reasons?  Every person should have the freedom (within the law and limits) to do and wear what they feel and want to.  A person shouldn't feel obligated not to do something simply because it's considered stereotypical of their social group.

[AlexanderCousland]

Xilizhra wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

*peeks head in*

Isn't it funny how every female protagonist looking good is sexist, but every male protagonist looking good isn't?

Yeah, no. Many male protagonists would in fact be considered "ugly" by our modern, Western standard of beauty, which, even for men, advocates slim, toned physiques with no body hair.

That's like saying Danny Trejo and Johnny Depp must be regarded as equally attractive because they both star in movies.

No...The real funny part is that Men usually dont take time out to complain about how We, as a whole, are being presented. We don't care how Male protagonists are portrayed, we aren't worried that a Male protagonist might say, do, or wear something that disrespect's Manhood as an entire gender....Why dont we...well...because that's silly.

Well, that's because you have oodles of content representing exactly what you want already.

Im sorry, I must have missed the point in history when Media asked me and all other Males how we want to be represented. Damn, I'm so mad I wasn't part of that consensus.