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[Osena109]

The witcher is going to be a force  to be reckoned with    pure eye candy and no holds barred unadulterated game play tastfull nudity and unlike dragon they don't hold your hade there is gonna be huge world to explor this time around i still love dragon age but you can not compair them there both good in there own right

[Rawgrim]

For those of us who love roleplaying games, the next two years will be great. The Witcher 3, Dragon Age:I, Project Eternity, the Torment sequel, Wasteland 2, and that spiritual Ultima game Richard Garriot is doing. The Baldur`s Gate 2 Enhanced Edition is out this week as well. Good times. Feels like the 90s again.

[Iakus]

I have little interest n The Witcher personally.

Project Eternity and Tides of Numenera, however...

[Plaintiff]

Br3ad wrote...
Dragon Age isn't a dating sim nor is it a place to push your real life issues into a media that literally no one else care's about because everyone has their own unique story.

I never said it was, or that I wanted it to be. I don't want to play a dating sim, I want to be an action hero who just happens to save dudes instead of damsels.

Everyone does have their own unique story. The difference is that only heterosexuals get theirs told.

Second, if you play games to live out your normal life, go live your normal life.

I don't want a game about my normal life, that would be supremely boring.  I want to be like Conan the Barbarian, or James Bond. I just also want to be gay while I am playing these characters.

You aren't making a statement. You aren't representing your minority. You aren't convincing anyone to do anything.

Why do you assume that this would be my goal in purchasing Dragon Age?

You are sitting at home, in front of a TV, wasting time when you can be out in the real world doing these things were people actually look.

I don't play games to be a social activist, I play them because I like them, and I like them a whole lot more when they feature gay characters being as badass as straight ones get to be all the time.

Third, Dragon Age doesn't represent homosexuals. Where this reasoning came from, I don't know, but I recommend a return to sender and that you file a complaint.

I'm not asking Dragon Age to represent homosexuals, I'm not asking Dragon Age to do anything except keep up the good work.

What I like about Dragon Age is that instead of playing as and hanging out with 'gay characters', I can play and talk to awesome, well-developed characters who just happen to be gay.

Fourth, status quo? What does RPing a gay character in a video game have to do with anything?

It has everything to do with my personal enjoyment, which is all I really care about when I'm playing a game.

Will this encourage people to force more gay protagonist because, completely disregarding the rest of their fanbase for the marginally few who only play their games to be gay? Really?

If you think I give even half a crap about the kinds of protagonists that other people like to play, congratulations on completely missing the point.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 12 novembre 2013 - 02:39 .

[Linkenski]

I'm getting both games that's for sure.

[Ailith Tycane]

Plaintiff wrote...

What I like about Dragon Age is that instead of playing as and hanging out with 'gay characters', I can play and talk to awesome, well-developed characters who just happen to be gay.

So much this.

[DragonRageGT]

HiroVoid wrote...

The only true way to decide is between cinematic trailers. For reference for previous games.

Dragon Age II -

Witcher 2 -

Nononon... you cannot say the only true way to decide about TW3 and DA3 is between cinematic trailers of DA2 and TW2!  You should have linked DA3 and TW3 trailers! =)

I am sure TW3 will be the one of the most amazing games I'm to play. I loved TW and TW2 even more. The Witcher 3 trailer caused me such an anxiety state that I cannot easily describe.

And I hope that Bioware will go back to basics and deliver another awesome RPG with DA3:I. They know how to do it. They were just too lazy to do it in DA2. (or too rushed by their not-so-new-now owners). Dragon Age: Origins is still one of my favorite games and certainly one that I've played the most with over 20 chars and 2,000 hours dedicated to it. I'll still have more runs with it too!

So, here are some links:

The Witcher 3 website

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Killing Monsters Cinematic Trailer

Dragon Age: Inquisition website 

Dragon Age: Inquisition Trailer Gamescom 2013 - A World Unveiled 

[Ailith Tycane]

Br3ad wrote...

What does RPing a gay character in a video game have to do with anything? Will this encourage people to force more gay protagonist because, completely disregarding the rest of their fanbase for the marginally few who only play their games to be gay? Really? 

What does RPing a gay character in a video game have to do with anything? It has to do with alowing people who want to play as gay characters the ability to do so...I'm not sure what's complicated about this. It's not a matter of pushing a political agenda, it's a matter of giving your players more options.

I think you're mistaking equality with a pie chart. Just because one minority group gets more exposure or rights doesn't mean the rights and exposure of the majority goes away. Don't worry, you will still get your white straight protagonists even if companies like Bioware include gay characters.

[Br3admax]

Ailith430 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

What does RPing a gay character in a video game have to do with anything? Will this encourage people to force more gay protagonist because, completely disregarding the rest of their fanbase for the marginally few who only play their games to be gay? Really? 

What does RPing a gay character in a video game have to do with anything? It has to do with alowing people who want to play as gay characters the ability to do so...I'm not sure what's complicated about this. It's not a matter of pushing a political agenda, it's a matter of giving your players more options.

The point is lost on you. If you read the whole thing again, you might see where I said that RPing a gay character does not make anyone want to make gay characters, which was the point of the post that this was responding to.

I think you're mistaking equality with a pie chart. Just because one minority group gets more exposure or rights doesn't mean the rights and exposure of the majority goes away. Don't worry, you will still get your white straight protagonists even if companies like Bioware include gay characters.

I think you're missing the point that I made entrely, but I'm sure you'll keep making assumptions about me, who I am, and what type of characters I like to RP as, so go on. Tell me more about me based on me saying that you shouldn't play a game just because you can be gay in it. Go on. 

[Br3admax]

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...
Dragon Age isn't a dating sim nor is it a place to push your real life issues into a media that literally no one else care's about because everyone has their own unique story.

I never said it was, or that I wanted it to be. I don't want to play a dating sim, I want to be an action hero who just happens to save dudes instead of damsels.

Everyone does have their own unique story. The difference is that only heterosexuals get theirs told.

Second, if you play games to live out your normal life, go live your normal life.

I don't want a game about my normal life, that would be supremely boring.  I want to be like Conan the Barbarian, or James Bond. I just also want to be gay while I am playing these characters.

You aren't making a statement. You aren't representing your minority. You aren't convincing anyone to do anything.

Why do you assume that this would be my goal in purchasing Dragon Age?

You are sitting at home, in front of a TV, wasting time when you can be out in the real world doing these things were people actually look.

I don't play games to be a social activist, I play them because I like them, and I like them a whole lot more when they feature gay characters being as badass as straight ones get to be all the time.

Third, Dragon Age doesn't represent homosexuals. Where this reasoning came from, I don't know, but I recommend a return to sender and that you file a complaint.

I'm not asking Dragon Age to represent homosexuals, I'm not asking Dragon Age to do anything except keep up the good work.

What I like about Dragon Age is that instead of playing as and hanging out with 'gay characters', I can play and talk to awesome, well-developed characters who just happen to be gay.

Fourth, status quo? What does RPing a gay character in a video game have to do with anything?

It has everything to do with my personal enjoyment, which is all I really care about when I'm playing a game.

Will this encourage people to force more gay protagonist because, completely disregarding the rest of their fanbase for the marginally few who only play their games to be gay? Really?

If you think I give even half a crap about the kinds of protagonists that other people like to play, congratulations on completely missing the point.

I wasn't even responding to you, but in response to all of this. Sure Plantiff, you never do any of these things. EVER! 

[Thrillian]

Br3ad wrote...


 Tell me more about me based on me saying that you shouldn't play a game just because you can be gay in it. Go on. 

But why shouldn't someone play a game just because they can be gay in it?  If that is what is important to them, why is it wrong?

[Ailith Tycane]

Br3ad wrote...

I think you're missing the point that I made entrely, but I'm sure you'll keep making assumptions about me, who I am, and what type of characters I like to RP as, so go on. Tell me more about me based on me saying that you shouldn't play a game just because you can be gay in it. Go on. 

lol first of all, you don't need to come at a plate of whipped cream with a suit of armor on. Relax a little bit and don't take this stuff personally.

Secondly, why do you care if someone wants to buy a game just because they can be gay in it?

[slimgrin]

DragonRageGT wrote...
Dragon Age: Origins is still one of my favorite games and certainly one that I've played the most with over 20 chars and 2,000 hours dedicated to it. I'll still have more runs with it too!

Rage my friend, you are f*cking devoted.

[deuce985]

I guess they're competition.

Can I just say I'm going to enjoy both games? Why do these threads end up in such a pissing match? Who cares? 2014 is absolutely loaded with RPGs. It might be the best year recently for RPGs. I'm in heaven.

Modifié par deuce985, 12 novembre 2013 - 03:28 .

[Br3admax]

Ailith430 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

I think you're missing the point that I made entrely, but I'm sure you'll keep making assumptions about me, who I am, and what type of characters I like to RP as, so go on. Tell me more about me based on me saying that you shouldn't play a game just because you can be gay in it. Go on. 

lol first of all, you don't need to come at a plate of whipped cream with a suit of armor on. Relax a little bit and don't take this stuff personally.

Secondly, why do you care if someone wants to buy a game just because they can be gay in it?

And again you're making assumptions about me. Where did I say that I care? 

To answer the question, you should play a game for it's story. Not the sexuality of the characters in it. I don't play games because they respresent me or my social groups or class. If it has a sh*t story it's not worth playing no matter how many people do what with other people in it. If there were a game, and everybody was a companion cube, and all they did was hum, would you play it, simply because you could be gay in it? If being gay in a game is inmportant enough were it's the only reason that you purchase a product, you are really wasting your time. More than time is wasted just playing the game in general. 

[CuriousArtemis]

Plaintiff wrote...

Unless Geralt of Rivia is suddenly down with the man-love, then there's no comparison as far as I'm concerned.

Haha, same!  Seriously, I've no interest in the Witcher games. I'd never even heard of them until I came to these forums. 

I think both series have their fans.

[Metalspoon60]

Despite people might think, Fans aren't a valid source of market success. A game like Dragon Age can't survive on its fans. Maybe games with huge audiences like COD on AC can, but dragon age has no where near the amount of fans. Instead it has to drawn in people from the general rp and rp approachable community. The question isn't whether the witcher is competition for you,personally. The question is whether the witcher is competition within the market. The answer is a definite yes. People who believe you can simply buy both are delusional. Maybe some Rpers will. General gamers on the other hand follow a trend of it was good why buy something not as good. Thats why communities like COD and BF3 are split, people choose to buy one over the other;because in the end those two games share a similar experience and people believe one game imparts that experience better than the other. Bioware should hope that CDprojekt isn't that aggressive i the arket. Lord knows if I were them I would wait till DAI announced a release date, make sure mine was in the same period, and spend millions of dollars on marketing. EA and bioware would be foolish not to look towards CDprojekt and bethesda, unless they want to maintain their limited fanbase.

Modifié par Metalspoon60, 12 novembre 2013 - 04:24 .

[The Xand]

Ailith430 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

I think you're missing the point that I made entrely, but I'm sure you'll keep making assumptions about me, who I am, and what type of characters I like to RP as, so go on. Tell me more about me based on me saying that you shouldn't play a game just because you can be gay in it. Go on. 

lol first of all, you don't need to come at a plate of whipped cream with a suit of armor on. Relax a little bit and don't take this stuff personally.

Secondly, why do you care if someone wants to buy a game just because they can be gay in it?

Did you know that in Scotland we often make a point of pronouncing the wh in words like whipped and why, Family Guy style.

motomotogirl wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Unless Geralt of Rivia is suddenly down with the man-love, then there's no comparison as far as I'm concerned.

Haha, same! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie] Seriously, I've no interest in the Witcher games. I'd never even heard of them until I came to these forums. 

I think both series have their fans.

I wish Dragon Age gave you sex cards for characters you nailed. They always made me chuckle in the Witcher.

Modifié par The Xand, 12 novembre 2013 - 04:41 .

[Archaven]

Br3ad wrote...

To answer the question, you should play a game for it's story. Not the sexuality of the characters in it. I don't play games because they respresent me or my social groups or class. If it has a sh*t story it's not worth playing no matter how many people do what with other people in it. If there were a game, and everybody was a companion cube, and all they did was hum, would you play it, simply because you could be gay in it? If being gay in a game is inmportant enough were it's the only reason that you purchase a product, you are really wasting your time. More than time is wasted just playing the game in general. 

That is how you want it to be played. Everyone play games differently. It is their game and as long as they enjoy how they play it, it's their freedom. If you feel is wasting time playing as gay you would not play one. But limiting others just because you feel is wasting time is selfish.

Ps. I'm not gay and i don't play gay characters. But i'm not biased to not allow others the way they want to play it even i felt it's time wasting for  me.

[The Xand]

Archaven wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

To answer the question, you should play a game for it's story. Not the sexuality of the characters in it. I don't play games because they respresent me or my social groups or class. If it has a sh*t story it's not worth playing no matter how many people do what with other people in it. If there were a game, and everybody was a companion cube, and all they did was hum, would you play it, simply because you could be gay in it? If being gay in a game is inmportant enough were it's the only reason that you purchase a product, you are really wasting your time. More than time is wasted just playing the game in general. 

That is how you want it to be played. Everyone play games differently. It is their game and as long as they enjoy how they play it, it's their freedom. If you feel is wasting time playing as gay you would not play one. But limiting others just because you feel is wasting time is selfish.

Ps. I'm not gay and i don't play gay characters. But i'm not biased to not allow others the way they want to play it even i felt it's time wasting for  me.

Doesn't that fall into the dreaded "broadening it's appeal rather than making a good game" category that so many seem to fear? Accessibility is apparently a terrible curse.

[Ailith Tycane]

Br3ad wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

I think you're missing the point that I made entrely, but I'm sure you'll keep making assumptions about me, who I am, and what type of characters I like to RP as, so go on. Tell me more about me based on me saying that you shouldn't play a game just because you can be gay in it. Go on. 

lol first of all, you don't need to come at a plate of whipped cream with a suit of armor on. Relax a little bit and don't take this stuff personally.

Secondly, why do you care if someone wants to buy a game just because they can be gay in it?

And again you're making assumptions about me. Where did I say that I care? 

To answer the question, you should play a game for it's story. Not the sexuality of the characters in it. I don't play games because they respresent me or my social groups or class. If it has a sh*t story it's not worth playing no matter how many people do what with other people in it. If there were a game, and everybody was a companion cube, and all they did was hum, would you play it, simply because you could be gay in it? If being gay in a game is inmportant enough were it's the only reason that you purchase a product, you are really wasting your time. More than time is wasted just playing the game in general. 

Clearly you care since you brought it up and keep trying to police why everyobody else plays their games.

So I'll say it again in a more broad sense, why do you care why other people choose to play their games? You said it "should" be because it has a good story, but what if someone, heaven forbid, has a difference of opinion from yours and doesn't care as much about the story? What if someone told you "You should play a game because it has really good multiplayer"? They're not wrong, it's just their opinions and it's different from yours.

Someone wanting to play a game because they have the choice to make a gay character is just as valid as someone wanting to play a game because of the story or the multiplayer or the design, etc.

Opinions! How do they work?!

[Mecha Elf]

Yeah of course they'll be compettitors but ill be buying DA:I not the witcher. Ive never been interested in some dude that is already pre made/not mine. I also like to play as a women since I am a women. Oh and I've always loved the world and plot of the DA franchise. 

Modifié par Mecha Elf, 12 novembre 2013 - 05:44 .

[Br3admax]

Ailith430 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

I think you're missing the point that I made entrely, but I'm sure you'll keep making assumptions about me, who I am, and what type of characters I like to RP as, so go on. Tell me more about me based on me saying that you shouldn't play a game just because you can be gay in it. Go on. 

lol first of all, you don't need to come at a plate of whipped cream with a suit of armor on. Relax a little bit and don't take this stuff personally.

Secondly, why do you care if someone wants to buy a game just because they can be gay in it?

And again you're making assumptions about me. Where did I say that I care? 

To answer the question, you should play a game for it's story. Not the sexuality of the characters in it. I don't play games because they respresent me or my social groups or class. If it has a sh*t story it's not worth playing no matter how many people do what with other people in it. If there were a game, and everybody was a companion cube, and all they did was hum, would you play it, simply because you could be gay in it? If being gay in a game is inmportant enough were it's the only reason that you purchase a product, you are really wasting your time. More than time is wasted just playing the game in general. 

Clearly you care since you brought it up and keep trying to police why everyobody else plays their games.

So I'll say it again in a more broad sense, why do you care why other people choose to play their games? You said it "should" be because it has a good story, but what if someone, heaven forbid, has a difference of opinion from yours and doesn't care as much about the story? What if someone told you "You should play a game because it has really good multiplayer"? They're not wrong, it's just their opinions and it's different from yours.

Someone wanting to play a game because they have the choice to make a gay character is just as valid as someone wanting to play a game because of the story or the multiplayer or the design, etc.

Opinions! How do they work?!

Actually I didn't bring it up. Now, you can actually read what I said, instead of picking at bits and pieces of it. I did not say that one should not buy a game because they want to make gay characters, I said that it should not be the only reason. Finally, you can try to tell me what I care about, but quite frankly, i really don't care. Me discussing something does not mean that I have feelings one way or the other on how you waste your money. What you do has not impact on me in any single way, and even if it did you or how you feel is completely irrelevant to me, as is your existence. That does not stop anyone from having a conversation. To say that it does is fallicous. 

[Han Shot First]

DAO > The Witcher

The Witcher 2 > DA2