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[quickthorn]

Female, plays female mostly. I just feel more comfortable playing my own gender and tend to play characters I can relate to rather than getting into deep RP playing ones who are nothing like me IRL.
ES Oblivion - 1 female 1 male
ES Skyrim 1 female
WoW - 3 high level characters all female
SW:TOR - 3 females finished class storylines, 1 male among others who didn't.
ME2 one female playthrough
DA:O - finished once with female. 2 others which are furthest along are also female.
DA2 - finished 3 times female, once male (but doing playthrough with husband's choices for fun - would not have replayed otherwise.

Modifié par quickthorn, 11 novembre 2013 - 08:47 .

[tehprincessJ]

Reznore57 wrote...

I'm female , and the first pc I create for rpg is always female.
I don't create a pc who is me , but I'm a bad roleplayer I guess...because all my pc have my own moral code.They all end up making the same general choices.
Anyway I find it easier to connect to the whole story as a female.

When I want a pc more pragmatic and less merciful (but still nice ...I can't help it) I create a male pc.So playing another gender helps me roleplay out of my confort zone , I guess.

So female pc when I want a deep level of immersion.
And male pc , when I want to roleplay a bit more outside the box.

I suppose I do the same thing, although, instead of playing as an evil male, I generally tend to play him paragon but a lot more... promiscuous. My females tend to be more loyal in regards to love.

I like playing a super-good female, followed by an evil female, and then my try-to-sleep -with-as-many-people-as-possible male last. But only really in BioWare games. In other games, when gender doesn't really seem to matter in any way (Fable, Fallout, Skyrim, ect), I'm ALWAYS, unavoidably female.

[Gwydden]

I usually play male characters, simply because they're easier to create. I'm a straight male, and I actually play homosexual/bisexual male characters more often than female ones, simply because the former only require minimal change. I don't feel it's weird to roleplay a character with a different gender or orientation. Roleplaying is just a form of creating a story, and if I don't feel uncomfortable writing my own stories from a female's perspective, why should I be when I am doing pretty much the same thing in DA?

So yeah, female characters are tough for me, though when I manage to pull one off, they make playthroughs as awesome as those with the male ones. I am not a fan of just switching a character's gender, because it's unlikely a man and a woman will end up with the same personality and outlooks, because how they are treated and how they interact with the world, even a world as tolerant as Thedas, can shape them in drastic ways.

Modifié par Gwydden, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:00 .

[Hazegurl]

The Wolf Man wrote...

 I'm curious about what other men have to say, for a couple reasons. 1. I'm a guy who prefers to play as a female. I want to say because it's different. We've had male PC's shoved down our collective throats for decades. When they introduced more female options over the years, I found myself more inclined to play those. 2. A number of my buddies agree that they prefer to opt for a female hero. 

But, ladies, by all means voice your preferences too. Tell me, do you think the gaming industry could do more to include women? I do. Beyond that, and more on topic with the forum, do you think Inquisition will offer balanced options between the sexes? Options in terms of flirts, romance, armor, CC, and so forth? 

I was appalled at the imbalance of LI options in the Mass Effect series. It really catered to us guys. Anyone who denies that is delusional. 

Female gamer here. I love playing as male and female heroes. The way I see it gender doesn't matter as much as a good story with great characters. I wouldn't mind seeing more female protagonists provided they are just as well written as the men.  However, I will say that with Bioware games so far I have enjoyed playing a male character far more than a female one. It's not like this for any other game for me. I guess I enjoy the male voices a lot more and I like watching a strong handsome man fight.

Personally I think BW is doing a great job already of creating a balance. Anyone who wants to create a female can and anyone who wants to create a male can.

As for your opinion about the LI situation. I disagree somewhat. Yeah a male PC had more options but the female could be anything she wanted to be as far as sexuality is concerned. A male PC couldn't even be gay until ME3.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 11 novembre 2013 - 08:59 .

[Silfren]

The Wolf Man wrote...

 I'm curious about what other men have to say, for a couple reasons. 1. I'm a guy who prefers to play as a female. I want to say because it's different. We've had male PC's shoved down our collective throats for decades. When they introduced more female options over the years, I found myself more inclined to play those. 2. A number of my buddies agree that they prefer to opt for a female hero. 

But, ladies, by all means voice your preferences too. Tell me, do you think the gaming industry could do more to include women? I do. Beyond that, and more on topic with the forum, do you think Inquisition will offer balanced options between the sexes? Options in terms of flirts, romance, armor, CC, and so forth? 

I was appalled at the imbalance of LI options in the Mass Effect series. It really catered to us guys. Anyone who denies that is delusional. 

I'm a woman, and I always play women characters.  I've tried off and on to play men PCs, if only to see the parts of the game otherwise locked off (being able to wed Anora and become her consort), or the greater amount of minor flavor differences, but usually I'm unable to follow through, because the experience just doesn't work for me at all. 

I would definitely like to see the games improved.  Origins was better than other games in its representation of and for women, but that shouldn't be taken to mean that it was good.  For a universe in which cultural misogyny is supposed not to exist, the Devs didn't, apparently, give much thought to what such a world would look like.  It's rampant with examples of sexism that just wouldn't be there otherwise.

DA2 was a good deal better, but again, better ain't good.  The differences in the way romanced Anders treats a woman PC versus a man illustrates one of the problems: many women I know refused to romance him with fem!Hawke because they found it patronizing in away the other option was not.  

Those are the things I'd like to see improved:  Make it possible for women PCs to be truly equal counterparts to the male versions, without the context of "wait..the Inquisitor's a woman?  Oh...well hey, women can be just a strong as men, and don't you doubt it!" 

One niggling thing I'd like to see changed is the constant reference to mixed-gender groups as men.  It's a minor thing, but damned is it annoying.  If you have men and women soldiers in your ranks, why is it necessary to refer to them as "my men"?   Cailan, Loghain, Aveline, Alistair, and others all did this.  Here there and everywhere, any time a large body of soldiers or guards is mentioned, they are referred to collectively as men, even though you can clearly see that more than a few people in the ranks are not men at all.  I see no reason why gender-free terms can't be used here, rather than erasing women from the ranks altogether.  Yes, it's a small thing, but it's a freaking simple thing to change, too, and one that to me and I suspect most women, if not men, is obvious.

Those are my issues: it's mainly a question of dialogue alterations that can completely alter the atmosphere of the game. 

[Karlone123]

I have tried to play as a female but struggle to complete a game as one. I have completed ME1 as femshep and DAO as female elf. A male Hawke's gay relationship with Anders seems to feel deeper than a female Hawke's.

Modifié par Karlone123, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:05 .

[Gwydden]

Silfren wrote...

I'm a woman, and I always play women characters.  I've tried off and on to play men PCs, if only to see the parts of the game otherwise locked off (being able to wed Anora and become her consort), or the greater amount of minor flavor differences, but usually I'm unable to follow through, because the experience just doesn't work for me at all. 

I would definitely like to see the games improved.  Origins was better than other games in its representation of and for women, but that shouldn't be taken to mean that it was good.  For a universe in which cultural misogyny is supposed not to exist, the Devs didn't, apparently, give much thought to what such a world would look like.  It's rampant with examples of sexism that just wouldn't be there otherwise.

DA2 was a good deal better, but again, better ain't good.  The differences in the way romanced Anders treats a woman PC versus a man illustrates one of the problems: many women I know refused to romance him with fem!Hawke because they found it patronizing in away the other option was not.  

Those are the things I'd like to see improved:  Make it possible for women PCs to be truly equal counterparts to the male versions, without the context of "wait..the Inquisitor's a woman?  Oh...well hey, women can be just a strong as men, and don't you doubt it!" 

One niggling thing I'd like to see changed is the constant reference to mixed-gender groups as men.  It's a minor thing, but damned is it annoying.  If you have men and women soldiers in your ranks, why is it necessary to refer to them as "my men"?   Cailan, Loghain, Aveline, Alistair, and others all did this.  Here there and everywhere, any time a large body of soldiers or guards is mentioned, they are referred to collectively as men, even though you can clearly see that more than a few people in the ranks are not men at all.  I see no reason why gender-free terms can't be used here, rather than erasing women from the ranks altogether.  Yes, it's a small thing, but it's a freaking simple thing to change, too, and one that to me and I suspect most women, if not men, is obvious.

Those are my issues: it's mainly a question of dialogue alterations that can completely alter the atmosphere of the game. 

I believe the problem with many people is that they cannot help to associate their characters with themselves. I don't roleplay people like me, I roleplay characters I like. They have nothing to do with me, and what they do and what they like doesn't have to mirror me in the slightest.

On the equality issue. It was never stated that Thedas was free of misoginy, that I remember. We even know that some countries, like Orlais, looked down on women until relatively recently. However, I agree with you that in game sexism being toned down wouldn't hurt, and I am aware many women would prefer it that way. So yeah, the devs might want to go for it.

[Chala]

"More Fun to Play Man or Woman?"
It all depends which voice actor make the best sarcastic/humorous personality.

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:13 .

[efd731]

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I hope you're not piting me, as that would be insulting.

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Nah, it's more of a general sadness over the state of the world

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Nah, it's more of a passive aggressive attack of someone's beliefs because you are unwilling to actively say you  find them (the beliefs) distasteful. If a straight man wants to play a straight man, not a problem. If any other gender/sexuality combo wants to play as their preference that is okay too.

[Silfren]

Faerah wrote...

I just wanted to point out that in my er..."career" in mmos, I hardly come across women that play male characters. Those who do are extremely rare especially at max level (I've known maybe...2-5 with max levels out of hundreds of people I've more closely interacted with). On the other hand I'd say upwards of 75-90% of men are likely to play female characters (main or alts). Bioware games tend to have different content (although normally just romance oriented) for the genders which would separate the demographics a bit. People might want to see the outcomes of a romanced Morrigan or Alistair in later games for example even if they have a gender bias.

A caveat to remember is that many women may play male avatars without ever disclosing that they are female.  I don't think anyone can speak with much certainty about the genders of the people they meet in MMOs beyond their own close friends. 

I can say that I've read the blogs of many women who have talked about playing male characters and letting people believe they are men gamers, or who have played female characters while asserting that they are men, all to avoid the very real harassment they can receive from playing otherwise, or simply because there is a notable difference in how people react to them in general.  Yes, folks, this is still a probem.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I play whatever the hell I feel like playing at the time, really; and enjoy them all the same. I never project my own views, morals etc. into my characters because I find that obscenely boring, and I seem to have no difficulty connecting to a character who's genitals are a different shape than mine. Maybe I'm strange.

Canon Revan was male, canon Exile was female, canon Shepard was male, canon Warden was female, canon Hawke was male, Nerevarine male, Dovahkiin female, Bhaalspawn male, plan on Inquisitor being female, blah blah blah.

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:25 .

[Eleinehmm]

Hmm, the  playing as yourself/playing as a character thing is interesting.
 My characters aren't me: I wouldn't even want to be friends with my main characters in DA (One of them is benevolently racist due to her noble upbringing, a little bit more then Leliana, but her brand of racism is similar to Leliana’s, a sort of privileged self-justifying blindness and unreasonably traditionalist with a small pinch of half realised hypocrisy when it comes to personal things, the other one is a self-absorbed full fledged hypocrite with self-destructive tendencies and unreasonable levels of contempt towards people)...

I don't think I can ever play as myself, because I am too much of a product of my World, so to speakB)
 

[Jaison1986]

I'm a guy, so it feels more natural for me playing as an male character. When I first play an character, I don't really roleplay, making choices according to my own morality. So, if I find an situation outrageous, my character will express outrage towards it.

[SlottsMachine]

I thought for sure this would be the MP forum.

[Silfren]

Gwydden wrote...

Silfren wrote...

I'm a woman, and I always play women characters.  I've tried off and on to play men PCs, if only to see the parts of the game otherwise locked off (being able to wed Anora and become her consort), or the greater amount of minor flavor differences, but usually I'm unable to follow through, because the experience just doesn't work for me at all. 

I would definitely like to see the games improved.  Origins was better than other games in its representation of and for women, but that shouldn't be taken to mean that it was good.  For a universe in which cultural misogyny is supposed not to exist, the Devs didn't, apparently, give much thought to what such a world would look like.  It's rampant with examples of sexism that just wouldn't be there otherwise.

DA2 was a good deal better, but again, better ain't good.  The differences in the way romanced Anders treats a woman PC versus a man illustrates one of the problems: many women I know refused to romance him with fem!Hawke because they found it patronizing in away the other option was not.  

Those are the things I'd like to see improved:  Make it possible for women PCs to be truly equal counterparts to the male versions, without the context of "wait..the Inquisitor's a woman?  Oh...well hey, women can be just a strong as men, and don't you doubt it!" 

One niggling thing I'd like to see changed is the constant reference to mixed-gender groups as men.  It's a minor thing, but damned is it annoying.  If you have men and women soldiers in your ranks, why is it necessary to refer to them as "my men"?   Cailan, Loghain, Aveline, Alistair, and others all did this.  Here there and everywhere, any time a large body of soldiers or guards is mentioned, they are referred to collectively as men, even though you can clearly see that more than a few people in the ranks are not men at all.  I see no reason why gender-free terms can't be used here, rather than erasing women from the ranks altogether.  Yes, it's a small thing, but it's a freaking simple thing to change, too, and one that to me and I suspect most women, if not men, is obvious.

Those are my issues: it's mainly a question of dialogue alterations that can completely alter the atmosphere of the game. 

I believe the problem with many people is that they cannot help to associate their characters with themselves. I don't roleplay people like me, I roleplay characters I like. They have nothing to do with me, and what they do and what they like doesn't have to mirror me in the slightest.

On the equality issue. It was never stated that Thedas was free of misoginy, that I remember. We even know that some countries, like Orlais, looked down on women until relatively recently. However, I agree with you that in game sexism being toned down wouldn't hurt, and I am aware many women would prefer it that way. So yeah, the devs might want to go for it.

I misspoke (miswrote?); while it's not mentioned that Thedas is, it is asserted for Ferelden, so my point stands for Origins.  Nonetheless, it would be nice to play a game where your character's femaleness never raises eyebrows because it's a total non-issue. 

I don't roleplay myself.  But in a game where the PC is supposed to be my character, personalization and all, I can't play male characters.  I have no issues with this where the character is pre-defined, like Geralt, but a character I create and define has to be female.  But no, it's not because I'm inserting myself into Thedas.

Modifié par Silfren, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:28 .

[Karlone123]

Hazegurl wrote...

The Wolf Man wrote...

 I'm curious about what other men have to say, for a couple reasons. 1. I'm a guy who prefers to play as a female. I want to say because it's different. We've had male PC's shoved down our collective throats for decades. When they introduced more female options over the years, I found myself more inclined to play those. 2. A number of my buddies agree that they prefer to opt for a female hero. 

But, ladies, by all means voice your preferences too. Tell me, do you think the gaming industry could do more to include women? I do. Beyond that, and more on topic with the forum, do you think Inquisition will offer balanced options between the sexes? Options in terms of flirts, romance, armor, CC, and so forth? 

I was appalled at the imbalance of LI options in the Mass Effect series. It really catered to us guys. Anyone who denies that is delusional. 

Female gamer here. I love playing as male and female heroes. The way I see it gender doesn't matter as much as a good story with great characters. I wouldn't mind seeing more female protagonists provided they are just as well written as the men.  However, I will say that with Bioware games so far I have enjoyed playing a male character far more than a female one. It's not like this for any other game for me. I guess I enjoy the male voices a lot more and I like watching a strong handsome man fight.

Personally I think BW is doing a great job already of creating a balance. Anyone who wants to create a female can and anyone who wants to create a male can.

As for your opinion about the LI situation. I disagree somewhat. Yeah a male PC had more options but the female could be anything she wanted to be as far as sexuality is concerned. A male PC couldn't even be gay until ME3.

It is good Bioware has included more options for gamers of different sexualities, and the option to roleplay a character with a gay/bi orientation, they're far from perfect but at least the option is there to be used.

[Rolling Flame]

I usually do my first playthrough with a male character, as it is a self-insert of sorts. After that, I go for female protagonists.

[jncicesp]

I'm a girl so whenever a game that has to option to Make a female character I just ignore the male choice.
I tried to play as a guy In Origins and ME2 It always ended up bothering me to much to care about them, even if its a game that doesn't have a voiced character just prefer female.

I really only try to make my first play through to be the relatable one though and just make chatacters that come to mind after that, they usually end up being female.

I think all options for flirting and romance should be equal to both genders It annoys me to just have stuff cut off cause I cant enjoyably play as a guy, I don't think there should be any armor you cant wear or just looks WAY different then it does on the other genderoption.
The character creation could stand to share more things between male and female, or at least be just as interesting with options.

Modifié par jncicesp, 11 novembre 2013 - 09:36 .

[Gwydden]

Silfren wrote...

I don't roleplay myself.  But in a game where the PC is supposed to be my character, personalization and all, I can't play male characters.  I have no issues with this where the character is pre-defined, like Geralt, but a character I create and define has to be female.  But no, it's not because I'm inserting myself into Thedas.

A honest question: if you don't roleplay and don't insert yourself, what do you do, exactly?

[Xerxes52]

For DA:O I did a mix of male and female characters with a variety of races. But for DA2 I always chose female for Hawke. I tried a male, but it didn't seem right to me, even though the male Hawke VA was awesome.

For DA:I, I'm probably going to do a mix again, preferably a male and female of each race.

[nightscrawl]

The Wolf Man wrote...

Beyond that, and more on topic with the forum, do you think Inquisition will offer balanced options between the sexes? Options in terms of flirts, romance, armor, CC, and so forth? 

I was appalled at the imbalance of LI options in the Mass Effect series. It really catered to us guys. Anyone who denies that is delusional.

I don't see why this is a concern. Dragon Age is not Mass Effect, and there have always been a similar amount of options for each.

As for myself, I prefer a female character because I am one, and also because of aesthetics. I was never really happy with making a male character in DAO so I eventually abandoned all of the ones I made. However, I made several male Hawkes that I was happy with.

[Ailith Tycane]

Given a choice, always female.

[JamieCOTC]

Both. In DA:O I switched it up quite a bit and it felt fairly natural. The Noble human and dwarf seemed more suited for male characters while the CityElf and Dalish played well as female. But honestly, both genders worked well for all the Origins. In DA2 it was pretty obvious Hawke was written to be a male mage, but I still had fun w/ LadyHawke. That said, there was enough diversity in DA2 and ME3 that it didn't really matter which gender you played. Both were equally satisfying. So, it's whatever floats your boat or whatever you are comfortable with. Male, female or both.

[Silfren]

Gwydden wrote...

Silfren wrote...

I don't roleplay myself.  But in a game where the PC is supposed to be my character, personalization and all, I can't play male characters.  I have no issues with this where the character is pre-defined, like Geralt, but a character I create and define has to be female.  But no, it's not because I'm inserting myself into Thedas.

A honest question: if you don't roleplay and don't insert yourself, what do you do, exactly?

Okay, I worded that badly, but I was saying I didn't roleplay myself, as in I don't associate myself with the character.