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[Ailith Tycane]

Silfren wrote...

Gwydden wrote...

Silfren wrote...

I don't roleplay myself.  But in a game where the PC is supposed to be my character, personalization and all, I can't play male characters.  I have no issues with this where the character is pre-defined, like Geralt, but a character I create and define has to be female.  But no, it's not because I'm inserting myself into Thedas.

A honest question: if you don't roleplay and don't insert yourself, what do you do, exactly?

Okay, I worded that badly, but I was saying I didn't roleplay myself, as in I don't associate myself with the character.

I am the same way. I never really insert myself as the character, I make them their own person, as if I were writing a protagonist for a novel. 

[Secretlyapotato]

I'm an mtf transsexual and I usually play female characters. It has nothing to do with "relating to the character" or whatever, I'm simply more amused when a woman beats up a bunch of men than when a man beats up a bunch of men, plus customization tends to be more fun.

Sometimes I do choose to play male characters. (ex. Hawke and Nerevarine)

[Gwydden]

Ailith430 wrote...

Okay, I worded that badly, but I was saying I didn't roleplay myself, as in I don't associate myself with the character.

I am the same way. I never really insert myself as the character, I make them their own person, as if I were writing a protagonist for a novel. 

I believe we may be having a problem with semantics here. When I say I roleplay, I mean I create a character and see what he/she does when thrown into the story. What I don't do is make a character who is essentialy myself. That's why I don't see the reason any man doing something similar might feel uncomfortable with a female PC, when they can like female characters in novels just fine.

Modifié par Gwydden, 11 novembre 2013 - 10:15 .

[Angrywolves]

In DAO as a man because a woman couldn't romance Morrigan.
In DA2 it didn't matter.

[Ieldra]

I'm another RL straight man who usually prefers female protagonists in games. Reasons:

(1) For some odd psychological reason I tend to identify more with my female protagonists.
(2) A male hero being badass is a stereotype. A female one being badass is still somewhat interesting.
(3) I haven't found a game yet where the female protagonist's voice doesn't express the kind of character I want to play better than the male protagonist's voice.

For me, the only reason to play a male is a compelling female LI since I don't do same-sex romances. That happened twice so far (DAO's Morrigan and ME2's Miranda). 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 novembre 2013 - 10:04 .

[Huge_Beaver]

Depends completely on the class I'm going to play.

Mage: Female.
Rouge: Both.
Warrior: Male.

[Faerah]

After reading some replies I think I've figured out why I have a hard time playing male characters. I have a hard time roleplaying, so normally my characters are an extension of myself and something I identify with; same moral compass and female. I have no issue with what race I play for...whatever reason, not that it's a bad thing. In fact I tend to prefer non-human races if given the option. I guess I put more importance on my character's gender (especially if voice acting is involved) and morals than how they look. Plus this is Bioware, so there's juicy lore/story influence if you're not human.

[The_Huntress]

More fun? It depends on the game. Playing Metal Gear without playing Snake is unthinkable. With Mass Effect it was fem-shep all the way because Jennifer Hale is such a great voice artist. In DA:O I played mostly human and dwarf females and male elves. The best part about playing a female character in DA:O is when Alistair tells me I am beautiful. ♥♥♥

In World of Warcraft I played mostly female with orc and undead characters but male with blood elves and taurans ... but then with BE, how can you tell ... And finally, in SWTOR it was a good mix of male and female of any race for both light and dark sides.

In all cases, the option to choose is the most important thing. If I could play as Tish in the Witcher, maybe I would have given the game more of a chance. As it is the game just did not hold me long enough to get used to the Polish control setup.

[BlueMagitek]

SoulRebel_1979 wrote...

Straight man.

[Peer of the Empire]

MAN

[Quyk Sylvyr]

As a female, I definitely prefer a female protagonist. I guess I tend to enjoy playing as an extension of myself.

I played Witcher and 2/3 of Witcher 2. I liked it, but I could never get into the character, and I think the male protagonist was definitely part of it. (I keep telling myself sometime I'll at least finish 2 and maybe give TW3 a chance once it's released. . . we'll see.)

[Phoenix_Fyre]

chick first, so that's what I normally play

however, I am finding RPing as a dude entertaining as well

[Silfren]

Gwydden wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

Okay, I worded that badly, but I was saying I didn't roleplay myself, as in I don't associate myself with the character.

I am the same way. I never really insert myself as the character, I make them their own person, as if I were writing a protagonist for a novel. 

I believe we may be having a problem with semantics here. When I say I roleplay, I mean I create a character and see what he/she does when thrown into the story. What I don't do is make a character who is essentialy myself. That's why I don't see the reason any man doing something similar might feel uncomfortable with a female PC, when they can like female characters in novels just fine.

 

Re: That's exactly what I was saying when I said I didn't roleplay myself.  I think you read it as "I don't roleplay, myself."  It was just a clunky way of saying that none of my characters were self-inserts, or fantasy versions of myself. 

I think there's probably a fundamental difference at play between men and women when trying to identify with characters gendered different from themselves.  At the risk of incurring the wrath of those who hate it when anyone tries to discuss disparities between different classes of people, I'll just go ahead and lay it out there, per the PM discussion I was just having:  women have a long, long history of having to suck it up and play games with male PCs and no opportunity to play something else, just as until relatively recently our fantasy and adventure fiction was nearly exclusively dominated by male PCs.  If we wanted to play video games, or wanted to read certain genres of fiction, we had to read about male protagonists, full stop.

It's exactly the same problem with the publishing industry's obstinance in regards to PoC characters and authors: It staunchly believes that white people won't be interested in those books.  Yet it was taken for granted that people of color themselves had no issues reading about white characters by white authors.  Either there's an errant belief here that PoC persons don't read, or an assumption about white people's mental capabilities, the implications of which would be hilarious if they weren't so sad.

So, yes.  I can see why a person would not be able to relate to playing a fundamentally different person from themselves.  But I think the reasons for that inability are entirely different, related to the way different groups of people experience the world of privilege.

[Magehand2278]

I prefer to be a female that way when I beat up the guys I could be like you got your butt kicked by a lady, plus i love the hair options in female PC

[MR CauSe iM GoD]

Depends on the game. If you ask about the ME series. Male Shep all the time. I tried making a Fem Shep, but I can't do it. It is not the same. Maybe I can't relate to Fem Shep, don't know, just don't have fun playing her.

But normally I tend to pick the chick character to play. Like in the 1st Borderlands, clock in 60 total days between my 2 Sirens to only 7 or 8 between my Hunter and Soldier.

Normally I pick the female character in most games.

Maybe 65% of the time female to 35% male. Just depends on what I am playing. 

Modifié par MR CauSe iM GoD, 11 novembre 2013 - 11:00 .

[The Elder King]

My canon playthroughs are generally males, so I'd say I've more fun playing as a male, but I enjoy creating and roleplaying female characters too.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

As a man I perfer to play as a woman, I only played 1 male Warden all the way through and I didn't like it.  I tried the male Hawke in the demo and didn't care for it and never have male Hawke in the final game,I played male Shepard 3 times and haven't bothered with them since ME2: Lair of the Shadow Broker  DLC came out and never have played male Shepard in ME3 and I have no plans to either.  

[The Qun & the Damned]

mostly gay non-human males

[TK514]

Male. I might give female a shot at some point, but I rarely stick with the character.

[JointVW]

I always start with a male dunno why but after my first play through i tend to try the female side also.
With DA2 i did 6 runs 3 males 3 females. (complete runs)

On the other side i always find it hard to play the evil or complete basterd side. Heck in Me 3 i still have a renegade playthrough waiting to get finished.

[PlasmaCheese]

I am a woman and I love playing as a strong female protag. Ugh, it just feels so much better. Scenes like when Saren grabs Femshep by her neck, or in Saints Row 2 being a bat**** insane gangleader with devious kill schemes, or going to the Landsmeet as female Cousland after Howe said you were "still playing at being a man" or w/e, UGH. I thought Howe was going to spit on her. I'm rambling. The point is, I think playing female characters is so much better. Especially since I can make my girls black. After years of playing white males and pretty japanese dudes, I really appreciate the ability to create a female hero that is what I imagine when I think "strong woman". ^^

On the armor topic, I'm probably going to get reamed for this, but I like when my characters have the option to show skin, and I don't mean during sex scenes. I don't care about realism. Sexy mage robes, ftw!

[Dayze]

The Wolf Man wrote...

Eleinehmm wrote...

TurretSyndrome wrote...

Eleinehmm wrote...

Why can't you ? I mean imagine a character , and now just flip their gender/sexual preferences, all other traits stay the same. What's stopping you from playing them ? I honestly don't understand.

I tried that, never worked. Just like some others, I can't connect to those characters. It's not something I can explain either. 

It's rather sad, I guess.

 

That's enough. You are picking on Turret and being way too judgmental. Different people prefer/are comfortable with different things. I refuse to believe that you are the bastion of open-mindedness after reading all your outlandish assumptions about Turret. Leave him alone.

Eh; he's kind of got a point......being unable to feel empathy to the opposite sex to the point it makes you uncomfortable to play as them?

Especially factoring that people can play robots, ghosts, demons and god knows what else just fine?

Not saying I agree with his general ideas on gender psychology or whether its scary or not though I could see how it could lead to bad things for people in charge to lack the capacity to feel around half of the population as full and viable human beings.

[Silfren]

PlasmaCheese wrote...

I am a woman and I love playing as a strong female protag. Ugh, it just feels so much better. Scenes like when Saren grabs Femshep by her neck, or in Saints Row 2 being a bat**** insane gangleader with devious kill schemes, or going to the Landsmeet as female Cousland after Howe said you were "still playing at being a man" or w/e, UGH. I thought Howe was going to spit on her. I'm rambling. The point is, I think playing female characters is so much better. Especially since I can make my girls black. After years of playing white males and pretty japanese dudes, I really appreciate the ability to create a female hero that is what I imagine when I think "strong woman". ^^

On the armor topic, I'm probably going to get reamed for this, but I like when my characters have the option to show skin, and I don't mean during sex scenes. I don't care about realism. Sexy mage robes, ftw!

Ha!  Well, having options is nice.  Gods know, if the Devs don't provide sufficiently sexy armor, the modders will!  I prefer realistic armor--and I reject "it's a fantasy!!!!" as a valid argument for women wearing armor that's about as protective as if they were wading nude into battle.  But I wouldn't be upset if we had a choice of both types, and the realistic versions weren't fugly or crap, stat-wise, in comparison.

Not that robes have ever been appropriate as armor, but hey, that's why mages carry rogues and warriors with them, right? 

[Vort3xX]

I just don't give a f*ck, make me a good game and i'm happy enough.