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[Arcian]

Xilizhra wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

If Javik was a different species, then he would have been pointless altogether. His personality traits and his views on other species relies on the fact that he's completely out of his time and comes from the broken remains of a very different galactic society. There's no other species in the MEU that would serve as a good fit for Javik.

There's also the fact, David, that this isn't Javik's story. Of all the squadmates, it's about him least of all. He's an evolutionary dead end from a cycle that failed to defeat the Reapers. He can see it end, but neither he nor anyone like him was responsible for bringing that end to fruition.

This is absolutely wrong, though. The current cycle would have absolutely zero chance of defeating the Reapers if it weren't for the protheans and their tampering with the Keepers.

[KaiserShep]

Lol I didn't catch that. Pretty much. Man prothean scientists get no respect. No respect at all.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 12 novembre 2013 - 06:33 .

[Ryzaki]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

There wasn't a single character I disliked.

Wait...no, that's not true. The Catalyst. Get rid of him.

Does he really count? I mean...what could you possibly like about the thing?

[Reorte]

I think most of the general points have been raised already. As much as I really love Tali it would've been good if she was a bit mature, but that doesn't fit in with the "don't like" thing anyway. Too many bad guys just bad because they're bad and without any depth to them. I was actually quite pleased how Udina was starting to show a bit more to himself than being a jerk for the sake of it in ME3, then the coup happened and screwed up that character development.

[Xilizhra]

Arcian wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

If Javik was a different species, then he would have been pointless altogether. His personality traits and his views on other species relies on the fact that he's completely out of his time and comes from the broken remains of a very different galactic society. There's no other species in the MEU that would serve as a good fit for Javik.

There's also the fact, David, that this isn't Javik's story. Of all the squadmates, it's about him least of all. He's an evolutionary dead end from a cycle that failed to defeat the Reapers. He can see it end, but neither he nor anyone like him was responsible for bringing that end to fruition.

This is absolutely wrong, though. The current cycle would have absolutely zero chance of defeating the Reapers if it weren't for the protheans and their tampering with the Keepers.

Prothean scientists, not warriors.

[Arcian]

Xilizhra wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

If Javik was a different species, then he would have been pointless altogether. His personality traits and his views on other species relies on the fact that he's completely out of his time and comes from the broken remains of a very different galactic society. There's no other species in the MEU that would serve as a good fit for Javik.

There's also the fact, David, that this isn't Javik's story. Of all the squadmates, it's about him least of all. He's an evolutionary dead end from a cycle that failed to defeat the Reapers. He can see it end, but neither he nor anyone like him was responsible for bringing that end to fruition.

This is absolutely wrong, though. The current cycle would have absolutely zero chance of defeating the Reapers if it weren't for the protheans and their tampering with the Keepers.

Prothean scientists, not warriors.

You are unnecessarily splitting hairs here.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Diana Allers: Remove her. If she has to be in the game just put her in a more professional outfit and you only see her on TV screens in the Citadel. I would rather keep cargo in the portside cargo bay, the cargo has more personality.

Major Coats: Keep him in as a cameo. Shepard did not see the Take Back Earth trailer, theres no reason for his in-game importance.

James Vega: (I don't hate him as a character, I just dislike him as a squadmate because he doesn't add anything except questions) Perhaps Mr. Vega could be in charge of the Marine detail assigned to the Normandy. His role aboard the ship would be to explain past events to new players and ask imported Shepards their thoughts during past major choices (character development and all that jazz).

Morinth: I just don't see any reason for any Shepard to choose her, aside from getting Dominate as a bonus ability.

Jacob Taylor: Not the character himself but some of the writing choices ("Hey FemShep, I'm not a good enough man for Miranda but I'll sneak into your quarters any day!"). I don't want to bash him too much though, I actually like Jacob as a character, and he gets bashed enough as is.

Kai Leng: Just make him some normal Cerberus CO and not the anti-Shepard; tone down his personality and overhaul his appearance so he doesn't look like a villain from Final Fantasy. Maybe instead of trying to ineffectually sword swipe everyone his appearance on Priority:Citadel II could play out like... Shepard and squadmates descend down a glass elevator to see Thane handle a bunch of mooks while protecting the Salarian Councilor. After Thane puts them down, obviously winded and tired from his condition, he sees Shepard and the two exchange bro-nods; and just as everything seems to be going well a red sniper laser dances across the Salarian Councilor and Thane reacts, jumping in front of the sights to take the bullet himself (in a scene reminiscent of his first encounter with his wife; parallels, I love them!). Anyway, the sniper turns out to be Kai Leng and the rest of the mission is a chase sequence on foot through the presidium.
Also, instead of the glitchy, melee, plot armor fights with him; instead, maybe replace them with a class dependent fight where Kai Leng's abilities and tactics change to counter Shepard (power immunity against Adepts, hacks the Engineer's drone, sniping from an unreachable platform for Vanguards, ability to see through tactical cloak against Infiltrators, etc.)

Character Changes:

Udina: Keep him as a slimy politician, not a traitor. I hate Udina not because he's badly written but because he's such a weasel.

ME3 Legion: Their sudden acceptance of the Reaper upgrades is out of character given their stance on the issue back in ME2. I think the Reaper upgrades should be removed and the Geth remain the same, with Legion becoming a squadmate (because they don't have to sacrifice themselves anymore).

Liara: Her character goes through so many changes in between each game. I know it's explained in the comics or whatever, but it should be better reflected in the games.
Also, I think a cool idea for her epilogue in ME3 could be -- depending on Shepards actions, affiliation, and conversations with her -- a choice between Liara ultimately disbanding the Shadow Broker network or fully embracing it (maybe, if she becomes an archaeologist again, there could be a hard to unlock scene with her and Javik in a newly discovered Prothean ruin about to open one of those Prothean stasis pods).

ME3 Mordin: I wish his change of heart regarding the genophage was explained more. I don't have a problem with the change itself, considering his loyalty mission was kind of leaning in that direction, I just wish it was less jarring. Part of this plays into my overall problem with the Tuchunka/Genophage arc.

ME3 Samara: Not so much Samara but the changes to the Justicar code and other retcons that happened during her little arc.

EDI: EDI still gets to keep her body, but maybe she wears clothes constantly like her alternative outifts (just tone down the sexuality). Like Vega, I don't think she should be a squadmate (I just get the feeling she was there to have an Engineer archetype squadmate).
I also have an alternative idea for her to obtain her body. Eva Core would instead be an infiltrator Cerberus snuck into the Normandy, Alliance retrofit team and built for the sole purpose of defeating EDI in a cyber-battle in order to retake the Normandy for Cerberus. Crewmen like Traynor would actually be friends with Eva Core and Shepard can even talk with her because she would be a crewman on the ship, biding her time until she could betray them. Eventually Eva will try to hack and delete EDI only to fail and be deleted by EDI instead (with EDI taking over the body as spoils). EDI then explains that Eva lost because EDI had evolved since her unshackling, playing into some overaching themes of the series.

*edited because of some format issues*

Modifié par ImaginaryMatter, 12 novembre 2013 - 07:37 .

[grey_wind]

I'd give Liara an actual personality in ME1. Make her actually disbelieving about her mother's defection to Saren, conflicted about going up against her, and emotional when forced to kill her. The ridiculous non-reaction Liara gives to all the life-shattering events really strains the willing suspension of disbelief.

In ME2, I wouldn't have her become the Shadow Broker. Shoehorning her into that role was absurd and contrived. She should have remained a Prothean scientist, perhaps leading the research teams on Ilos in hopes to find something useful in the Prothean data-banks about the Reapers and the Conduit.

In ME3, I'd make her less central to the overall narrative. In fact, if her ascending to the Shadow Broker position in ME2 is inevitable, I wouldn't make her a squadmate in ME3 at all. Let her assume the position of off-ship mission control, providing you with missions and information that gets the plot moving. It would actually make her role as Shadow Broker feel relevant as opposed to hokey.

[eyezonlyii]

EDI: I like ImaginaryWriter's idea. That seems perfect.

Liara: Either make her more mature and shrewd in ME1 like some are saying so that the SB role doesn't seem so jarring, or just keep her as the archaeologist she was. Also take her down a notch in ME3.Either way, don't have her first entrance into the series be a virginal offering of herself to whoever comes along. Give her a combat backstory or some training,

Garrus: You are NOT my best friend. You're a good guy, but I hardly spoke to you. Also, quit with the revenge. Every time I did talk to you, you were gunning to kill someone. The galaxy doesn't work like that, unless you want to become what you're fighting against.

Tali: I actually like her naivete, but her and Liara being completely that way was just too much, and considering the other Asari/Quarians we meet in the series, I think the having Tali the way she is would contribute more to the story.

Ashley: Never could understand how Kirrahe and his team can make it, but she can't. Also, keep her the same grind my gears, headstrong woman she was in ME1. Haven't played with her beyond that yet, but in ME1 she reminds me of my mother, a strong, enlisted military woman with more on her mind than her next hair appointment or outfit. and yes, even though I'm not terribly religious, I did enjoy the mention of her faith, because, why not?

Miranda: Lose. the. sister. issues. it was fine in ME2, but we don't need a rehash in ME3. Let her be actively usurping Cerberus in the third game.

Jacob: I agree with all of the above. Also, like I said in another thread, if Kaidan is dead, have the biotic division go to him instead. Also, fix the femhsep romance.

Overall: Allow squadmates to potentially romance each other. It would make the game more dynamic.

[Neria Rose]

Liara - I'd drop the naive, inexperienced, socially awkward, and barely legal virgin nerdbait bit in ME1 (which Bioware did in ME2). I'd make her some species other than Asari. I'd also drop the severely annoying breathy monotone voice and make her ME1 appearance less childish and ugly (the latter of which Bioware did with LotSB). And definitely make her less Shepard-focused.

Miranda - I would have her wear clothing less intended for titillation (thank you, Bioware, for that appearance pack!), change the voice actress, and change the visual similarity between the character and her VA.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Honestly?

I'd keep EDI as the ship, the sexbot and her whole "I wanna be a real boy!" schtick go old real quick.

Every squad mate would have a "I don't particularly like you" dialogue option that would keep them from acting buddy buddy *Cough Liara *cough*

Casper wouldn't exist.

[David7204]

These ideas are horrible.

[eyezonlyii]

David7204 wrote...

These ideas are horrible.

do you have any you would like to share?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

David7204 wrote...

These ideas are horrible.

Not enough heroism?

David dear you tend to have terrible taste so you'll forgive me if I discount your highly thought out response.

[Darks1d3]

I think he used those exact words in multiple threads. Such creativity.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Darks1d3 wrote...

I think he used those exact words in multiple threads. Such creativity.

I'm fairly certain he has them all listed somewhere for quick copy/paste action.

[David7204]

Yes. Ideally, it would have been nice to have an entire third arc focused on recruiting the criminals and pirates of the Terminus Systems. And I'd like Miranda to be heavily involved, instead of all this crap that has her revolving around Cerberus.

It makes sense. She can't go to the Alliance. Can't go to Cerberus. The alien governments don't really need her. Where can professionals like her do the most good? Where are they most scarce? Among criminals. That's where scientists, technicians, and researchers could get the most from what they put in. Proper education and training is rare among such people, no?

Besides, I very much like the juxtaposition of a pristine woman like Miranda working in some dirty rat hole. Goes very well with Jack working for the Alliance on Elysium.

Modifié par David7204, 13 novembre 2013 - 03:14 .

[Xilizhra]

David7204 wrote...

These ideas are horrible.

Is this surprising? Don't worry, you get used to it eventually.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Xilizhra wrote...

David7204 wrote...

These ideas are horrible.

Is this surprising? Don't worry, you get used to it eventually.

Don't you have playgrounds to stalk?

[iOnlySignIn]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Honestly?

I'd keep EDI as the ship, the sexbot and her whole "I wanna be a real boy!" schtick go old real quick.

Does she? I never get the sense she particularly liked her new body.

To begin with she took control of it only to access the Cerberus data within. Then she immediately tells you how the body is quite inadequate compared to the Normandy. Then when Legion points how inadequate her new body is she explains that its main purpose is to facilitate interactions with organic crew members (or something to that effect). Finally she tells you several times (such as during the last mission) she does not care if the body itself becomes non-functional since her core functions remain within the Normandy.

I think she keeps it purely because of positive feedback from Joker and other crew members. So if anyone should be blamed for the continued existence of the contraption it's them, not EDI herself.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 13 novembre 2013 - 03:37 .

[eyezonlyii]

Xilizhra wrote...

David7204 wrote...

These ideas are horrible.

Is this surprising? Don't worry, you get used to it eventually.

which ideas are you referring to?

[Xilizhra]

eyezonlyii wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

David7204 wrote...

These ideas are horrible.

Is this surprising? Don't worry, you get used to it eventually.

which ideas are you referring to?

I personally think that many to most of these ideas wouldn't help all that much, especially since, unlike the other thread, they're toward disliked characters instead of liked ones.

[ShallowlLife9871]

 Liara:  cut all the
fainting in ME1. Once was fine. But the other times…

Play a bit more into the “can she be trusted?” that was
hinted at in ME1

Cut the Shepard obbession.

In ME2 make the hug an intercept. Like Tali’s.

In ME3. Have an option to send her to Hacket. As the LEADING INFORMATION BROKER, she would be more valuble to Alliance and the information she finds can be given to the fleets.

and if she must be on Thessia, tone down the whole " My PEOPLES" thing.


Ashely:  I don’t so much hate her… Dislike is more the word. 
How ever I would have her death on virmire open an inquest into her grandfarther’s actions.

Kai Lang: he is more love to hate for me.  I would have him be the Bad ass foil he was ment to be. Make the fight between him and Thane more brutal. And make it clear that Shep and co can’t do anything to help. 


Ditch the ****ing gunship.

And  maybe on thessia, Have him kill one of the squid members with you. [ who ever it is random.]

Miranda: Keep  her sister arch in ME2. But  in 3, have her do  runaway cerbirus sicenist mission.
Not Jacob. With her smarts and leadership ablitys, it would make an intresting story. The Pro cerbiurs woman now helping people flee form them  and maybe druing the mission, She gets a hint that scanturay is not what it seams.  And once the people are safe, she goes to investergate it. leading to the discovery that her father was running it FOR Cerbirs in order to find out info on his daughters locations. During this mission, she can become a tempuray squid mate.

Jacob: 
 ditch the  dad story, 

fix the romance . no more " Will you have sex with me?"  "No"  "Pleassssse?" "i said no" "PLEEEEAAAASSSSEEE!!! "  " Fine , we have sex before the sucicde mission"    

Modifié par ShallowlLife9871, 13 novembre 2013 - 03:51 .

[AresKeith]

Xilizhra wrote...

David7204 wrote...

These ideas are horrible.

Is this surprising? Don't worry, you get used to it eventually.

Except that all David does is crap on other people's ideas and then when people ask him for an example of things he does nothng but change the conversation

[ImaginaryMatter]

Xilizhra wrote...

David7204 wrote...

These ideas are horrible.

Is this surprising? Don't worry, you get used to it eventually.

Well ouch, here I am bearing my soul to strangers on the internet and you two just go and stomp all over it.