If it helps, you definitely had some of the better ideas. The only one I genuinely dislike is the one about geth, which I feel was quite an interesting plot arc as it was.ImaginaryMatter wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Is this surprising? Don't worry, you get used to it eventually.David7204 wrote...
These ideas are horrible.
Well ouch, here I am bearing my soul to strangers on the internet and you two just go and stomp all over it.
Modifié par Xilizhra, 13 novembre 2013 - 04:08 .
Dislike, as in, consider it not good for the story.spirosz wrote...
So subjectively liking ideas are now better ideas? Interesting.
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I endeavor to avoid doing so.The Mad Hanar wrote...
Don't feed the trolls.
Xilizhra wrote...
Dislike, as in, consider it not good for the story.spirosz wrote...
So subjectively liking ideas are now better ideas? Interesting.
Xilizhra wrote...
Dislike, as in, consider it not good for the story.spirosz wrote...
So subjectively liking ideas are now better ideas? Interesting.
A continuing arc DLC in that spot was necessary, I believe, but becoming the Shadow Broker wasn't a thing that had to be filling it. And I admit that the position seems rather random, at least in that nothing interesting was ever done with it in ME3.spirosz wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Dislike, as in, consider it not good for the story.spirosz wrote...
So subjectively liking ideas are now better ideas? Interesting.
Proving my point.
I consider Liara becoming Broker not good flow for the story, where as you would argue against that, right?
Shiala has neither presence nor personality enough to fill the role. And her archaeologist role proves rather interesting.Liara: easiest fix is to replace with Shiala in ME1, recruiting an actual commando to fight as opposed to an archeologist.
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she's only there for one scene, and to me at least, has just as much charisma as Liara does in the whole game. I would have liked to have to deal with an indoctrinated character. it could have even been a major point in the 3rd one. depending on your interactions with her, could she resist the call.Xilizhra wrote...
Shiala has neither presence nor personality enough to fill the role. And her archaeologist role proves rather interesting.Liara: easiest fix is to replace with Shiala in ME1, recruiting an actual commando to fight as opposed to an archeologist.
The Mad Hanar wrote...
Oh, and don't forget about giving Morinth an actual role in ME3 either.
That'd be worse than her not doing so at all. If you don't want her role to be as a successful Shadow Broker, have her find another one.ImaginaryMatter wrote...
Taking over the entirety of the Shadow Broker's network does seem unrealistic, even if Liara did become a bit more callous post-ME1 I doubt she's truly ruthless enough to keep the network together. Maybe if she took over the title of Shadow Broker in name only, while most of the agents and operatives leave because she ultimately proves to be terrible at it.
The Mad Hanar wrote...
Oh, and don't forget about giving Morinth an actual role in ME3 either.
Nothing. He is quite literally the most hateable character I've ever come across in fiction. And given the amount of annoying and despicable things I've come across in fiction, that is quite an achievement in bad writing.Ryzaki wrote...
Mdoggy1214 wrote...
There wasn't a single character I disliked.
Wait...no, that's not true. The Catalyst. Get rid of him.
Does he really count? I mean...what could you possibly like about the thing?
Utterly awful idea. That much weight should never be given to apparently benign interrupts.HYR 2.0 wrote...
I guess what I'd do is make that string of three paragon-interrupts after Vasir's death in LotSB determine how she is in ME3. 0-1 interrupts taken = hardened Liara. 2-3 taken = softened Liara.
That is just silly.HYR 2.0 wrote...
easiest fix is to replace with Shiala in ME1, recruiting an actual commando to fight as opposed to an archeologist.
Modifié par David7204, 13 novembre 2013 - 05:10 .
Xilizhra wrote...
That'd be worse than her not doing so at all. If you don't want her role to be as a successful Shadow Broker, have her find another one.ImaginaryMatter wrote...
Taking over the entirety of the Shadow Broker's network does seem unrealistic, even if Liara did become a bit more callous post-ME1 I doubt she's truly ruthless enough to keep the network together. Maybe if she took over the title of Shadow Broker in name only, while most of the agents and operatives leave because she ultimately proves to be terrible at it.
Modifié par wolfhowwl, 13 novembre 2013 - 05:25 .
The implication that virginity is inherently problematic is odd and unsettling.There would no cringeworthy nerdbaiting with the display of the naive virgin prostrating herself before Shepard, blue alien ass at the ready.
That could be fixed by making Liara mandatory to bring to that mission and fleshing it out more.The situation with Benezia would not be nearly as awful. The handling of a daughter confronting and having to mercy kill her own mother was laughably bad. If it was instead Shiala putting down her erstwhile leader the cursory treatment the moment received would be a little more acceptable.
It's not the virginity that is the problem, as people have said before, it's the way it's so tactlessly thrus upon the player. nothing about what she says really, just...the way she's spread wide when you first meet her, her repeated swooning at the melding, and the instantly strong bond it creates for her to Shepard because s/he was her first. And ME1 didn't have any other required squadmate missions that I can remember, so no Noveria should be no different.Xilizhra wrote...
The implication that virginity is inherently problematic is odd and unsettling.There would no cringeworthy nerdbaiting with the display of the naive virgin prostrating herself before Shepard, blue alien ass at the ready.
That could be fixed by making Liara mandatory to bring to that mission and fleshing it out more.The situation with Benezia would not be nearly as awful. The handling of a daughter confronting and having to mercy kill her own mother was laughably bad. If it was instead Shiala putting down her erstwhile leader the cursory treatment the moment received would be a little more acceptable.
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