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[Nohvarr]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Kunkryst wrote...
You'd think they would release the demo footage to the public in high quality. It is absolutely everywhere, it is no secret that such a demo exists.

We didn't release it, however.

I suppose we could release a better-quality version of the demo, now that it's out there, but that's really up to the Powers That Be as to whether this should change the roll-out of information they already have planned. Odd that sites would call this a "leak" when really it's just a poor capture of a presentation we've shown numerous times at cons by now, but there you have it.

You're hiding something, David... admit it! 

"What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets!"
-Dracula

[hotdogbsg]

David Gaider wrote...

Kunkryst wrote...
You'd think they would release the demo footage to the public in high quality. It is absolutely everywhere, it is no secret that such a demo exists.

We didn't release it, however.

I suppose we could release a better-quality version of the demo, now that it's out there, but that's really up to the Powers That Be as to whether this should change the roll-out of information they already have planned. Odd that sites would call this a "leak" when really it's just a poor capture of a presentation we've shown numerous times at cons by now, but there you have it.

It's a bit of a quirk that BW won't release the video but (as far as I recall) encouraged attendees at the PAX demo to record and share what was being shown. Now with the Digexpo recording it's even more widely available to view/

I'm sure they have their reasons for not sharing it but it's not like what the video contains is much of a secret at this point. 

[Kleon]

David Gaider wrote...

Kunkryst wrote...
You'd think they would release the demo footage to the public in high quality. It is absolutely everywhere, it is no secret that such a demo exists.

We didn't release it, however.

I suppose we could release a better-quality version of the demo, now that it's out there, but that's really up to the Powers That Be as to whether this should change the roll-out of information they already have planned. Odd that sites would call this a "leak" when really it's just a poor capture of a presentation we've shown numerous times at cons by now, but there you have it.

It is neither released nor banned. Several youtube vidoes remain with no respone. Given how ussualy fast and effective youtube is in banning vidoes (althought I suppose that since vdeo comes from somewhat open event law-wise it might not be seen as breaking authors license).

From PR point of view when situation like this happen fast respone can quite beneficial, certainly more beneficial than damaging. 

There is a pretty big hype around lately published videos. High quality demonstration would be best now because it is fresh in peoples mind. 

Thats the con of long chain of command - decisions can be slow. 

[Nerevar-as]

AshenSugar wrote...

All right. I certainly hope they'll adjust the difficulty to make up for the limited health regen (which I approve of very much), but I don't think it will be a problem given that a similar mechanism worked rather well in ME3. I don't think it will be a problem given that a similar mechanism worked rather well in ME3.

As it happens, I had no real problems with ME3. My main tactic was to avoid being hit wherever possible by use of careful, cautious play. (The only exception being the fight at the end of the Omega DLC which I found brutally difficult, even on Normal)

I think that part of the issue was that ME3’s squad mates did regenerate, meaning I only had to manage Shepard. DA:3’s companions on the other hand are not going to regenerate their health, meaning that I basically have to babysit four characters at once.

Still, it’s very possible I’m worrying needlessly. I just keep thinking about those huge damage spikes that my party were regularly subjected to in DA:2 despite all efforts toward advance preparation, and imagining how it would be if the party had no means of healing up afterward.

Hopefully this time around they´ll actually design encounters instead of throwing in whatever went through their minds (mooks with total immunities, come on!). About health reg, I´ve played a few games were it depended on a skill, it could be a possibilty.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 13 novembre 2013 - 05:21 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Kunkryst wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Kunkryst wrote...
You'd think they would release the demo footage to the public in high quality. It is absolutely everywhere, it is no secret that such a demo exists.

We didn't release it, however.

I suppose we could release a better-quality version of the demo, now that it's out there, but that's really up to the Powers That Be as to whether this should change the roll-out of information they already have planned. Odd that sites would call this a "leak" when really it's just a poor capture of a presentation we've shown numerous times at cons by now, but there you have it.

It is neither released nor banned. Several youtube vidoes remain with no respone. Given how ussualy fast and effective youtube is in banning vidoes (althought I suppose that since vdeo comes from somewhat open event law-wise it might not be seen as breaking authors license).

From PR point of view when situation like this happen fast respone can quite beneficial, certainly more beneficial than damaging. 

There is a pretty big hype around lately published videos. High quality demonstration would be best now because it is fresh in peoples mind. 

Thats the con of long chain of command - decisions can be slow. 

That's also the con of over-analyzing things? It's not a secret, they just didn't plan to officially release it. 

There's also not an official "release" that health won't automatically regenerate to 100% after each battle, just random BSN and Twitter posts. It's not a "leaked secret" or anything that Bioware is trying to hide... it's just not something Marketing has offiicially released yet.

Bioware doesn't care that people filmed video of their (multiple) demos. They also don't care enough to have that exact same demo recorded in high definition, likely because they have something else planned later on down the line to show even more mechanics in a more polished format. Changing the timeline now for no other reason than... just because?... is a little silly.

[Melca36]

Seival wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Seival wrote...
Looks beautiful, but... the open world... a lot of pointless wandering around... I will not be pleased if DA:I will look and feel like Skyrim or an MMO without other players. I'll get bored in the first half hour of gameplay, and never will start the game again... that's exactly what happened when I tried several elder-scrolls-based games.

Why open world, BioWare? Why not instanced world with each instance 10 times more detailed and beautiful than this?

There are still separate areas. They're just much bigger than what in the previous games and encompass more locations each. So no, you won't have to walk from the Western Approach all the way to Denerim and back.

@all:
Those strategic options look extremely interesting as well.

Ok... Well... I just don't want DA:I to become a re-skinned Skyrim, Oblivion, or Morrowind. It's really hard to explain my attitude towards these games politely...

I know this may be a new concept to you but how about judging the game AFTER you played it?  

[Kleon]

Better answer would require the knowledge of their makreting plan.

People who follow BSN regulary are constanly reminded of the brand, the rest however is not.

The so called "leak" activated memory of the brand amoungs people who follow gaming news and saw an article. Releasing official high quality demo now would likely strenghten memory of the brand and emotion associated with it. (Positive emotions given that the footage would create such - can be tested)

After ME3 ending and DA2 BioWare as a brand very likely suffered, so they can't really afford to be as quet as Bethesda or CD Projekt RED. There is too much negative bias towards the brand of BioWare.

Modifié par Kunkryst, 13 novembre 2013 - 05:46 .

[David Gaider]

Kunkryst wrote...
Better answer would require the knowledge of their makreting plan.

People who follow BSN regulary are constanly reminded of the brand, the rest however is not.

The so called "leak" activated memory of the brand amoungs people who follow gaming news and saw an article. Releasing official high quality demo now would likely strenghten memory of the brand and emotion associated with it. (Positive emotions given that the footage would create such - can be tested)

After ME3 ending and DA2 BioWare as a brand very likely suffered, so they can't really afford to be as quet as Bethesda or CD Projekt RED. There is too much negative bias towards the brand of BioWare.

I'm sure the marketing folks appreciate the tip-- although if I were to throw out a conjecture, I'd say that most of the negative discussion (about the linked demo as well as our "brand") is among the hardcore Internet folks and not among those who need to be reminded that Dragon Age exists. Putting out a better quality video of the demo, in my opinion, isn't going to suddenly change their tone. That will come in time, with more info on the game, if anything's capable of changing their mind at all.

Modifié par David Gaider, 13 novembre 2013 - 06:12 .

[thats1evildude]

It is a "leak" because one gaming site called it such, and then everybody had to jump on the bandwagon.

Also, there isn't another apt term for this sort of thing. You can't say "released" because it technically hasn't been, and "uploaded to Youtube" just doesn't have the same ring to it or fit neatly into a headline. So it was "leaked."

Modifié par thats1evildude, 13 novembre 2013 - 06:17 .

[Deverz]

All this talk of "leaks" just serves to remind me of the bandwagon mentality of gaming journalism. The Digiexpo footage was "leaked" more than a week ago, and even then it's the same gameplay as the one a couple months ago. And BW said it was OK to put out on the internet.

Lol, gaming sites.

Modifié par Deverz, 13 novembre 2013 - 06:27 .

[Ravenfeeder]

Hmm, there's some nice stuff in the video. I especially liked the promise of real choices and the building of the organisation. However this being BSN I'm going to concentrate on the negatives.

I'm not a fan of the combat animations, they still seem over-emphasized in a DA2 fashion, which really isn't my preference.

Secondly most of the 'boss' fights still appear to be the party vs a single foe with super-special powers and lots of hits. That works in platformers, but I don't see why it has a place in CRPG's. I've said several times, but can't help reiterating, the best combat in the series so far is Redcliffe village. Not a 'boss' level opponent in sight, but a challenging combat with lots of options.

Modifié par Ravenfeeder, 13 novembre 2013 - 08:30 .

[Wulfram]

Most of the internet reaction that I've seen to this has been pretty positive, as reactions to Bioware things go at the moment.

Modifié par Wulfram, 13 novembre 2013 - 06:49 .

[Seival]

David Gaider wrote...

Metalspoon60 wrote...
What he said, Its not an open world. Its a large world.

This.

It's not an open world à la Skyrim, as we've said many times. There are areas, however, which are much larger and which have lots of places to explore and engage with-- and they exist in conjunction with (and sometimes as part of) the kind of story-heavy content you expect from us.

And, no, there's not a lot of "life" to those big areas just yet-- a lot of that is yet to come, as those details are part of the polish we put into such areas prior to release. The demo shows what we can of our pre-alpha build at this point, and there will be plenty of details to come (including, I imagine, more on the actual story content) in the next year.

Feedback is useful, so by all means comment away-- and thank you to those who said this looks promising. For those who don't, I'd suggest reserving judgment until you see more, but it's your dollar.

You calmed me down a little. Thanks

[Olivier_dehFanboy]

Wulfram wrote...

Most of the internet reaction that I've seen to this has been pretty positive, as reactions to Bioware things go at the moment.

hahaha, i was reading ur sentence while questioning what plane of existence you live in, till i finished the entire sentence. Most of the hate is ridiculous with no foundation though.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Tell me about it Olivier. I saw some idiot calling it more "dumbed down than DA2" in the recent "new" footage that has "leaked" which I found hilarious. Someone responded pointing out how races have returned along with better customization, bigger non-linearity in world and quests and the tactical camera.

It's understandable that some people are still bitter about DA2 and ME3 but many of the hate comments lack foundation (with their hatred for DA2 and ME3 fueling their opinions). For me however, I'm not going to boycott Bioware because of any bad/disappointing/shallow games that they produce/produced. Even if Inquisition doesn't live up to the hype, I'd still buy a later Bioware game if I hear it's good. Same goes for any developer including Obsidian (bugs) and Bethesda (bad gameplay).

Of course, just as you get fanboys ("I'll buy everything from my favorite company and will not accept any flaws or that the game is horrible") you also get the anti-fans ("I don't care if the company that I have boycotted produce a good game, any game they now produce is horrible in my eyes due to the past bad experiences that I had with them").

Too much politics and religious devotion here, especially when you see Witcher fans slagging off Inquisition because it's presented as the competition to The Witcher series. There's no threat. I see two potentially good games coming out but it's like they see the anti-Christ or something that could end their favorite game series.

"I like your CD Projekt, I hate you CDProjekters. You are so unlike your Projekt."

(Feel free to quote me on that one)

[TurretSyndrome]

Few guys on IGN call it "a Skyrim clone with multiplayer". Yeah, there are pretty ridiculous comments on the video out there but whatever, that's how it is. The video is two months old and I bet the build itself was few more months old. With the amount of time they got on their hands, there's no reason to believe it's going to stay that way.

[Angrywolves]

Nothing quite like Gaider's lightening bolt.
It's slightly different the Pax video. Has a few new things.
Was disappointed it wasn't a real leaked video, although I suspect GM Flynn would nail anyone who leaked anything .
shrugs.
February 14th still when we'll get the remaining companion info David ?
rotfl.

[Kidd]

Angrywolves wrote...

February 14th still when we'll get the remaining companion info David ?

Pretty sure that was a comment along the lines of "it'd be cute if we would" and not "we will." If anything, it had a definitive undertone of "I'm not in marketing."

[TurretSyndrome]

There was another thing that bugged me during the video. How the controlled character always had to walk past the enemy to get to his blind side or flank, especially when they were carrying shields which block frontal attacks completely.

Why is there no side stepping to allow for quick attacks like that before they could block again? I mean, there's already the roll that you can do, why not this?

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Just seen the footage, it looks alot like DA2 which has me worried, and I noticed they haven't expanded the colour palate any.

[Ananka]

Wow, the characters and the environments look awesome. Frostbite 3 rocks.

Modifié par Annaka, 14 novembre 2013 - 09:53 .

[Il Divo]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Tell me about it Olivier. I saw some idiot calling it more "dumbed down than DA2" in the recent "new" footage that has "leaked" which I found hilarious. Someone responded pointing out how races have returned along with better customization, bigger non-linearity in world and quests and the tactical camera.

It's understandable that some people are still bitter about DA2 and ME3 but many of the hate comments lack foundation (with their hatred for DA2 and ME3 fueling their opinions). For me however, I'm not going to boycott Bioware because of any bad/disappointing/shallow games that they produce/produced. Even if Inquisition doesn't live up to the hype, I'd still buy a later Bioware game if I hear it's good. Same goes for any developer including Obsidian (bugs) and Bethesda (bad gameplay).

Of course, just as you get fanboys ("I'll buy everything from my favorite company and will not accept any flaws or that the game is horrible") you also get the anti-fans ("I don't care if the company that I have boycotted produce a good game, any game they now produce is horrible in my eyes due to the past bad experiences that I had with them").

Too much politics and religious devotion here, especially when you see Witcher fans slagging off Inquisition because it's presented as the competition to The Witcher series. There's no threat. I see two potentially good games coming out but it's like they see the anti-Christ or something that could end their favorite game series.

"I like your CD Projekt, I hate you CDProjekters. You are so unlike your Projekt."

(Feel free to quote me on that one)

Very well said.

[AFG-47]

AshenSugar wrote...

Community: Can we please have more of an open world game, with large areas to explore.

Bioware: Sure... here you go... allow us to demonstrate...


Community: BAH THIS SUCKS!!! HOW DARE YOU EXPECT US TO RUN AROUND POINTLESSLY IN A HUGE WORLD!!! PRE-ORDER CANCELLED!



Mental note: Never look at the Youtube comment section again.
Never look at the Youtube comment section again.
Never look at the Youtube comment section again.
Never look at the Youtube comment section again.
Never look at the Youtube comment section again.

That's pretty much how the Final Fantasy fanbase has been for like 20 years.

[Peer of the Empire]

Frostbite looking great

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 15 novembre 2013 - 02:39 .

[Angrywolves]

I don't know when the companion info is going to be released.
Some players have joked about it, Feb 14th being Valentine's Day.
shrugs.
I assume Bioware has some schedule they're using to disclose info.
shrugs.