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[JamesFaith]

Greetsme wrote...

Is it also true that the ME3 ending was in someway copied and pasted from a game named Deus Ex?

I doubt it, there were just vague similarities.

Destruction of Reapers supposed to be same as destruction of main enternet node and collaps of cyberspace society.

Control of Reapers supposed to be same as let Illuminati continue in their secret rule over world.

Synthesis of all life with machines suppose to be same as merging of one man with AI tu become new secret god.

Practically only similarity here was, that something was destroyed, someone control something and that someone merge with something.

[Iyev]

illusive.man wrote...

Greetsme wrote...

I would have thought that if you loved the mass effect series, then you would naturally love Shepard. Why would you want for someone that you love to die?
Okay, another story and another hero, but knowing that Shepard survived, would make the next story that more compelling don't you think?
I would not be very keen to play another Mass effect game, knowing that my hero was going to die at it's end.

I agree !
Shepard deserves a better ending
Shepard deserves another game

Agree with you dude, Shepard deerves more D:

[Khevan77]

AlanC9 wrote...

Khevan77 wrote...
The keeper's job is to activate the Citadel as the relay to Dark Space, allowing the Reapers to enter and begin the harvest.  The prothean scientists altered the keepers to not respond to the signal telling them to do just that.  That's why Saren had to infiltrate the council chamber, activate the master control unit, et cetera et cetera.

If the Citadel is the Catalyst ("it's a part of me"), they why the unnecessary complexity?  The Catalyst would have been the one to open the relay, him being the guy in charge and all.  This negates the entire reason for Saren being used as a pawn by Sovereign, and thus the entire plot of Mass Effect 1.

You're assuming things about the keepers that aren't actually known. There's a bunch of speculation, but that's it. Vigil didn't know jack about what was actually going on aboard the Citadel, since the Conduit was one-way.

Except there was this little side quest in Mass Effect 1, "Scan the Keepers" that if completed, prompted an email from Chorban in ME2.  The gist of the email was that the keepers were basically programmed to receive a signal.

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Chorban

Now, this isn't absolute conclusive proof of what I've said, but it is a strong piece of evidence.  In my opinion, this email confirms that the keepers are the ones responsible for activating the relay.  They didn't, and we know that the prothean scientists changed something.  Thus, it logically follows that the scientists changed the keepers somehow to keep them from responding to Sovereign's signal, which leads up to the events of ME1, the Conduit, Saren, everything.

The Catalyst himself says that the Citadel is "part of me."  Implying that the Catalyst isn't just an AI installed on some small corner of the Citadel, but is an integral piece thereof.  Again, it logically follows that the Catalyst should have some control over the workings of the Citadel.  And thus, if he has control over the Citadel, he would have been able to either directly open the relay to dark space (since he's the one in charge after all) or he would have been able to counteract the prothean scientists' sabotage. 

If you like the ending, or any portion thereof, fine.  I'm not going to hate on you or anything of the sort.  I have valid reasons, backed up by in game lore, that requires minimal "reading between the lines" for why I don't like the ending.  I have some moral issues with consent of choice regarding Synthesis, and I think Control is just kinda dumb, but ok (even if I wouldn't pick it), Destroy has a few issues too, but all in all, the three endings themselves aren't my problem.  It's the Catalyst and how those choices are presented to the player I find lacking.

[sp0ck 06]

Wow, I just came on here to see if there was any new ME news....and you ****heads are STILL making useless threads about the ending? HAHAHAHAHHA.


GET A LIFE!!!!!!

[BetaFever]

The reason for the reaping is the thing that killed the game for me, i was expecting something so much more epic, sinister, if they had taken more time, things could have been different.

[MadRabbit999]

*Walks back into the forums after a year's absence*

Wow.. really guys, still?

This dead horse has been beaten so much into the ground I think you have made a hole through the other side of the planet... lighten up, life ani't so bad...!

[SwobyJ]

At this point, reading parts of BSN is more disappointing than ME3 itself.

[Ome6ablak]

Greetsme wrote...

  I have put countless hours into mass effect, and all that Shepard has been through, he/she, deserved a simple, happy and uplifting ending.  What did you give us?  You gave us the most ridiculous and pathetic ending that was ever thought up by a unstable and defeated mind.
Your games deal in peoples emotions, you should respect that power.  Shame on you Bioware. 

They killed Shepard off in ME2. What made you think that Shepard was going to live through until the end? Plus why does the hero always have to live in order for there to be a happy ending? The fact that Shepard made the ultimate self sacrafice in order to save the "GALAXY" is a pretty bad ass ending to me!

[SilJeff]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

*Walks back into the forums after a year's absence*

Wow.. really guys, still?

This dead horse has been beaten so much into the ground I think you have made a hole through the other side of the planet... lighten up, life ani't so bad...!

unfortunately, until ME4 is released, you will continue seeing the butthurt and whining about it. 

[BioWareMod02]

 My opinion of this matter

[LinksOcarina]

Greetsme wrote...

spinachdiaper wrote...

all i wanted was a ending were you personally destroyed the reapers. not the space magic catalyst crucible thing doing all the dirty work. preferable a somber ending with most of the universe in ruins and the galactic population could be less than 1% surviving but it would of been a honest victory earned instead of a choose your own misadventure endings

Yes, I'm sure that any one of us could have written a better ending in our lunch break, yet this was the best that the writers of the mighty Bioware could come up with.  It is very hard to believe.

Please, show off your fan fiction to the internet. I am sure it will be well received by the other dreamers who think they can write. 

SwobyJ wrote...

At this point, reading parts of BSN is more disappointing than ME3 itself.

sadly yes. But eh, this is what happens when a minority congregates together. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 28 novembre 2013 - 08:43 .

[Iakus]

Is this some strange attempt to shame people into silence?

[loungeshep]

BioWareMod03 wrote...

 My opinion of this matter

That horse has been decomposing and stinks by now.

[Nole]

iakus wrote...

Is this some strange attempt to shame people into silence?

No, he could have closed the thread.
And it's pretty obvious you have no shame.

[TheRealJayDee]

Sheeeeeet, the BotMod has an opinion!!




Are they evolving?

[We'll bang okay]

he/she did get a happy ending he/she got what they finally deserve a rest after all what they did and what they been through

[force_echo]

I loved the ending. There was nothing strange or unexplained at all to me about the "space magic/Starchild" everyone else hates. Maybe it's because I never played the original (only played the EC). Plus I played the Leviathan DLC. The MEHEM mod is a generic piece of trash, probably the worst ending I could have imagined for ME3.

Modifié par force_echo, 28 novembre 2013 - 11:11 .

[force_echo]

General TSAR wrote...

He doesn't live neither.

For all intents and purposes, Shepard will rot in the rubble of the Citadel until an Alien Force from Andromeda invades.

Yeah, no. Bioware has explicitly said that he lives.

[Orikon]

OP,you have Mehem.V4 is out,and its pretty awesome.

[CDR David Shepard]

I can understand that some people would prefer a happy ending.

However, what I will never understand is how people can't see the greatness in Shepard for giving his life to save the entire galaxy.

People like the OP have no problem ****ting on the ending because they say they are so attached to Shepard...

...but think about it...if you're so attached to Shepard...you're basically saying he didn't do enough to please you. Shepard gave his life to save the galaxy...and that wasn't enough for you. That's still a failure in your eyes.

It's absurd.

Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 01 décembre 2013 - 11:23 .

[voteDC]

I think people would have been happy with a hopeful ending.

Even if you count the 'breath' scene the original three shipped endings didn't exactly make you hopeful for the future of the companions and fleets, let alone the galaxy as a whole.

Modifié par voteDC, 02 décembre 2013 - 07:56 .

[durasteel]

I would have been fine with an Ultimate Sacrifice ending for ME3 and for Shepard. My problem wasn't that the ending wasn't happy, it was that the ending was stupid. The "Extended Cut" was arguably worse than the original. Nonsensical and contradictory exposition from the star child, explosions of ridiculous space magic, hand-waving away sense and reason... it was bad work, and the persons responsible for it should be ashamed of it.

90% of ME3 was great. It had flaws, but it was great overall. The opening sequence and the ending were thrown-together garbage that squeaked in just under the deadline. The worst thing about the stupid ending is that it completely overshadowed the outstanding writing for Tuchanka, Rannoch, and parts of the Citadel that really deserved to win awards.

Yeah, it sucked that the stupid ending detracted from our enjoyment of an otherwise very fun game, but it's just a game for you and I. I feel sorry for the majority of the people who worked on the game and the series, who poured their hearts into making first-rate content only to have it obscured by a layer of tarnish by a couple of folks who didn't carry their weight.

[Han Shot First]

I have to disagree somewhat.

I think the appropriate tone for Mass Effect 3's endings would have been bittersweet, rather than sunshine and rainbows. Unfortunately the shipped endings were a heaping plate of poorly written grimdark smothered in thematic inconsistencies and space magic, delivered by a child actor every bit as talented as Jake Lloyd.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 03 décembre 2013 - 05:22 .

[Harorrd]

force_echo wrote...

I loved the ending. There was nothing strange or unexplained at all to me about the "space magic/Starchild" everyone else hates. Maybe it's because I never played the original (only played the EC). Plus I played the Leviathan DLC. The MEHEM mod is a generic piece of trash, probably the worst ending I could have imagined for ME3.

If you only played the third one because IGN gave the game 10/10 then you are right, but if you invested time and effort brining your savefile from years ago into the third game, then you wont be as naive.