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[didacuscarr]

On ACA, AHI, AA, Volus, HMV, HFE, HFSol, GE and TSE sometimes Destroyer. I think that is all. I use an AM III or a CM I/II/III in team games. Because they have low base shields or DR it's easy to skip fitness for me. How much I spend into fitness depends on what powers I have, passive and weapon used.

[Creator Limbs]

I run a lot of characters with no fitness and I only put Cyclonics on them sometimes, but most of the time they run out with no padding. It was a little rough going at first, but eventually I got used to how many hits a character could take before they were shieldgated, then healthgated, then dead. I'm still a little jumbled about the number on platinum because..I don't really plat platinum often, though I have been playing it more lately.

Characters that I use no fitness on:

Human Adept
Salarian Engineer
Asari Vanguard (though I never use Stasis anyway...)
Qurian Female Engineer
Asari Adept
Krogan Sentinel
Salarian Infiltrator
Geth Engineer
Batarian Sentinel
Vorcha Sentinel
N7 Paladin
N7 Destroyer
Drell Assassin
all Volus
Geth Trooper
Batarian Slasher
Asari Valkyrie
Talon Mercenary (I never play him though so it's kind of irrelevant)

I think about an equal number of characters skip passives as opposed to fitness, so.

[acicm2]

the geth trooper.

[HusarX]

Deerber wrote...

Yes, I do that on loads of classes. FQE, MQE, Volus engi, HI... And I'd do that on many others that I usually don't play.

Was it hard to adapt to that? No. I spend the bulk of my ME3 hourslaying mostly Drell, so I was already used to have 3 hitpoints, the gates. What was harder was getting used to the normal speed of the characters, instead... xD

Yeah, it's always painfull. Especially when you like using Adrenaline 3 on your Drell.

[LemurFromTheId]

HusarX wrote...

Was it hard for you to get the hang of it? I mean sacrificing survivabilty for DPS.

That's the wrong way of looking at it. You don't sacrifice survivability for DPS, you sacrifice tankiness for DPS. DPS increases survivability, and instead of tankiness you depend on speed and positioning. You don't need to be able to take a lot of damage if you don't take a lot of damage. Oh, and gates, obviously.


I can't remember them all, but I use no-fitness/adrenaline combo on these kits at least: FQE, HE, AA, Huntress, Paladin, SI, FQI.

[Beerfish]

Any infil can have that build. As a matter of fact infils could go zero in fitness no cyclonics and run around naked with just their weapon and be in less danger than a fully spec'd Krogan warlord.

[LuckyBullet95]

Beerfish wrote...

Any infil can have that build. As a matter of fact infils could go zero in fitness no cyclonics and run around naked with just their weapon and be in less danger than a fully spec'd Krogan warlord.

Then  you are playing the Krogan Warlord wrong...

OT:

I can't really speak as a solo player, back when I first started playing more aggressively, and when I was speccing more and more into glass cannon builds I didn't do it alone, I had Team AreleX's awesome crew to back me up and even carry me if it was needed. It's not really difficult in the traditional term to transition from Fitness to No Fitness it's just first of all remember you only have 500 health and 500 shields and getting reaccustomed to getting the hell out of dodge must earlier than normal and then learning how best to position yourself so your getting shot at less than the enemies. Also make sure Collector Captains don't pop up behind you, the bloody bastards will rip you to shreds.

[jupitersj]

My Geth Engineer is built like this
6/6/6/6/0
weapon deeps in passives
adrenaline module

dem fire explosions plus csmg/harrier and acolyte

[Moby]

Slayer could go no Fitness, however rank six in passives doesn't afford much of anything.

[coelacyanth]

I go no fitness and cyclonics with all voluses in gold and platinum...

[Beerfish]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Any infil can have that build. As a matter of fact infils could go zero in fitness no cyclonics and run around naked with just their weapon and be in less danger than a fully spec'd Krogan warlord.

Then  you are playing the Krogan Warlord wrong...

No, the krogan warlords are huge risks to get sync killed or have to run around looking for a ramp and have to put themsleves in harms way by their very nature.  Their big abilites as I've said repeately also work agaisnt each other.  Do I take lots of fitness and become even moe tanky or do I use my melle abilites and become weaker.  Infils get the benefit of having the enemy ignore them or forget about them during most of the game.

[Ferocious Panda]

I do this on the talon, QFE, huntress, AIU, and sometimes on the justicar or QME

[SpaceV3gan]

I used a No Fitness Shadow level fifteen-ish on Plat this morning, without coffee. Vancouver Collectors. It wasn't pretty at all. Just to mention that, although I consider Fitness important, I had the balls to Plat nakedly.

Modifié par SpaceV3gan, 13 novembre 2013 - 05:10 .

[Garrus1138]

I am using AIU without Fitness, you really wont need it on gold. On Platinum, I would use a Cyclonic I or II.

[Kalas Magnus]

it depends on how good the team is.

if im playing with scrubs ill use 6 ranks+cyclonics.
if im playing with bsn players ill use no fitness+power amps

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

Only character that I'm rolling with no cyclonics or fitness is the AIU. All my other characters either have no passives, max fitness, or three ranks in fitness.

[Randomical]

None and never because Collector Captains hate me.

[Grim68]

Closest I get to no-fitness, no-CM4 would be my Huntress with 3 ranks. Kickass dodge makes up for that though.

I think I usually run my AA with 3 ranks as well, but will throw the Stronghold V on her.

I could see running the TGI, AIU, THS or Cabal without fitness because of healing abilities though.

[LuckyBullet95]

Beerfish wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Any infil can have that build. As a matter of fact infils could go zero in fitness no cyclonics and run around naked with just their weapon and be in less danger than a fully spec'd Krogan warlord.

Then  you are playing the Krogan Warlord wrong...

No, the krogan warlords are huge risks to get sync killed or have to run around looking for a ramp and have to put themsleves in harms way by their very nature.  Their big abilites as I've said repeately also work agaisnt each other.  Do I take lots of fitness and become even moe tanky or do I use my melle abilites and become weaker.  Infils get the benefit of having the enemy ignore them or forget about them during most of the game.

Sync, with the exception of Phantoms are predictable, and in the case of Phantoms, they are a danger to everyone (if moreso to the KroLord than infiltrators). Also Tech Armour DR + Rage DR + Melee DR + 2500 Health and Shields = Tanky enough.And if you can easily take Health and Shields at Rank 4 of Fitness without weakening him if you need.

[Evil]

The only zero fitness kits I have are the demolisher and the 4 volus kits, but I have a LOT of 3 fitness builds, almost all the engineers for example.

Combine that with the fact that I only use cyclonics on geth, krogan, turians, batarians, and the N7 destroyer, and thats a lot of squishy kits.

Might explain why I kiss concrete more often than I'd like, come to think of it.

There's only so many cyclonics to go round though, so I'd rather use power amps, shield regen amps and adrenaline modules on the squishy kits, since using a cyclonic on a kit with less than 750 base shields feels like a waste.

Modifié par Evil Mastered, 13 novembre 2013 - 10:28 .

[bondiboy]

I rarely use cyclonics but will take at least 3 in fitness for most characters except TGI and Tsent which can handle the effects of DOT well.
Tried no fitness builds on other kits but heat seeking Banshee balls ,rockets etc usually force me to use an OPs pack or a med gel when points in health would have saved me from doing so.

Modifié par stricko, 13 novembre 2013 - 11:02 .

[Gr1ng0]

Deerber wrote...

Yes, I do that on loads of classes. FQE, MQE, Volus engi, HI.

 I respec'd my FQE to zero fitness (thanks) and she was great. I did find high dps enemies in close quarters to be troublesome. E. G.  Collectors glacier. Must improve situational awareness. 

[I Am Robot]

HusarX wrote...

As the title says. Are you using this kinda bulids & loadouts?  

Yes, and more so recently, specially on host. 

What characters get the most of it, besides the Huntress or Talon?

I've never tried concussive shots but I've hear that they aren't so good so I take full fitness on the talon.

 
In what circumstances having 0, 3 or even 6 points in fitness is meaningless in your opinion?

Never, as it always increases your survivability, but to different degrees with different kits. I don't take fitness on vorcha. I do on drell though becasue I don't enjoy pull. I tried it on my drell vangurad (who's equipped with the indra) but I decided to respec after a few matches. and the drellfiltrator, I think I take fitness up to 3, cause I actually like homing grenades.

 
Was it hard for you to get the hang of it? I mean sacrificing survivabilty for DPS.

There was actually a 2-3 week period where I confined my self to low survivability kits and would only put no or only 3 points into fitness just to get used to it. It was alright though and I got used to it.  

Modifié par Farid-Yoda-N7, 14 novembre 2013 - 12:29 .

[Zero132132]

Fitnessless puggernaut FTW!!

[Yo Son]

All the adepts, excluding the ACA, all the Infiltrators( most of the time I dont spec homing grenades on DI. I use it on all the weapon based soldiers, excluding the batsol(Power amp).

Interestingly enough I use the cyclonic mods on bulky characters O_O