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[Dovakiin_N7]

Aedolon wrote...

Burning Camels wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

FQE is great, Human Infiltrator is very good.

Cryo Blast is already a great power, that would make it overpowered.

Would it be too much to ask for an FQE build?  Either I'm doing it completely wrong or those Cryo explosions don't knock out light units for me.  .-.

Build.

Shotgun Amp and Omni-capacitors are great alternatives to Geth Scanner, try all of them. Sentry Turrent ranks 5 & 6 don't make a lot of difference, you can spec them however you prefer - or even put those points in Fitness. Use Cyclonics instead of Adrenaline if you're really, really scared of dying.

Noob Question on your build.  You are using Claymore with HB. Would much punch would it lose if you skipped last 10% weapon damage rank in Defender? 

[megabeast37215]

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

Aedolon wrote...

Burning Camels wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

FQE is great, Human Infiltrator is very good.

Cryo Blast is already a great power, that would make it overpowered.

Would it be too much to ask for an FQE build?  Either I'm doing it completely wrong or those Cryo explosions don't knock out light units for me.  .-.

Build.

Shotgun Amp and Omni-capacitors are great alternatives to Geth Scanner, try all of them. Sentry Turrent ranks 5 & 6 don't make a lot of difference, you can spec them however you prefer - or even put those points in Fitness. Use Cyclonics instead of Adrenaline if you're really, really scared of dying.

Noob Question on your build.  You are using Claymore with HB. Would much punch would it lose if you skipped last 10% weapon damage rank in Defender? 

With Cryo debuff... Should still OSK most everything. Even moreso if you hit the head...

[Deerber]

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

Aedolon wrote...

Burning Camels wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

FQE is great, Human Infiltrator is very good.

Cryo Blast is already a great power, that would make it overpowered.

Would it be too much to ask for an FQE build?  Either I'm doing it completely wrong or those Cryo explosions don't knock out light units for me.  .-.

Build.

Shotgun Amp and Omni-capacitors are great alternatives to Geth Scanner, try all of them. Sentry Turrent ranks 5 & 6 don't make a lot of difference, you can spec them however you prefer - or even put those points in Fitness. Use Cyclonics instead of Adrenaline if you're really, really scared of dying.

Noob Question on your build.  You are using Claymore with HB. Would much punch would it lose if you skipped last 10% weapon damage rank in Defender? 

Not much, but you still lose some dps against bosses... And for what? 3 ranks in fitness? Hardly worth the trouble, they won't change pretty much anything. They will save you from a couple of swarmers more, maybe 

[jrob6]

Not sure why people are recommending both AP evo and flamethrower on the turret. The flamethrower cancels out the AP evo. Usually, I take the turret to 4 for the shock evo and take 4 in fitness. But that's just me...if I was going to take 6 in turret (which is a waste IMHO), I suppose I would go shock, AP ammo, rockets.

[Dovakiin_N7]

Deerber wrote...

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

Aedolon wrote...

Burning Camels wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

FQE is great, Human Infiltrator is very good.

Cryo Blast is already a great power, that would make it overpowered.

Would it be too much to ask for an FQE build?  Either I'm doing it completely wrong or those Cryo explosions don't knock out light units for me.  .-.

Build.

Shotgun Amp and Omni-capacitors are great alternatives to Geth Scanner, try all of them. Sentry Turrent ranks 5 & 6 don't make a lot of difference, you can spec them however you prefer - or even put those points in Fitness. Use Cyclonics instead of Adrenaline if you're really, really scared of dying.

Noob Question on your build.  You are using Claymore with HB. Would much punch would it lose if you skipped last 10% weapon damage rank in Defender? 

Not much, but you still lose some dps against bosses... And for what? 3 ranks in fitness? Hardly worth the trouble, they won't change pretty much anything. They will save you from a couple of swarmers more, maybe 

what if I want to use Cyclonic 1 and 2? (Store is trolling me now a days on Cyclonics 3 and 4).  Would it not, with 3 ranks in Fitness, take your shield above that critical 950+ something ? I  forgot the exact number? Although I am not sure what it takes to survive a burst fire from Cannibal that suddenly spawned behind your back

Modifié par Dovakiin-TheSlayer, 13 novembre 2013 - 01:38 .

[Deerber]

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...


what if I want to use Cyclonic 1 and 2? (Store is trolling me now a days on Cyclonics 3 and 4).  Would it not, with 3 ranks in Fitness, take your shield above that critical 950+ something ? I  forgot the exact number? Although I am not sure what it takes to survive a burst fire from Cannibal that suddenly spawned behind your back

Sure, if you're using cyclonics 1 and 2 it makes sense. But I much prefer having 10% more weapon damage and 25 % moar speed. And so does Aedolon 

[LemurFromTheId]

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

Aedolon wrote...

Burning Camels wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

FQE is great, Human Infiltrator is very good.

Cryo Blast is already a great power, that would make it overpowered.

Would it be too much to ask for an FQE build?  Either I'm doing it completely wrong or those Cryo explosions don't knock out light units for me.  .-.

Build.

Shotgun Amp and Omni-capacitors are great alternatives to Geth Scanner, try all of them. Sentry Turrent ranks 5 & 6 don't make a lot of difference, you can spec them however you prefer - or even put those points in Fitness. Use Cyclonics instead of Adrenaline if you're really, really scared of dying.

Noob Question on your build.  You are using Claymore with HB. Would much punch would it lose if you skipped last 10% weapon damage rank in Defender? 

Short answer: 5.4 - 5.9 percent, depending on gear.

Long answer: A noticeable amount of punch. For example, when using Shotgun Amp gear, I can surprisingly often kill Ravagers with just CB and one Claymore shot. Take away that 10% and it gets much harder.

[MajorStupidity]

Why do people keep assuming Cryo blast is terrible 25% more damage against an enemy is nothing to sneeze at... but then again snap freeze has that 25% debuff along with being able to prime everything for bugged super powered cryosplosions and cannot be dodged so...

[VaultingFrog]

What's wrong with cryo blast? Its near non existent cool down means you can spam it and freeze all things. Uber debuff for everything it touches.

[Deerber]

MajorStupidity wrote...

Why do people keep assuming Cryo blast is terrible 25% more damage against an enemy is nothing to sneeze at... but then again snap freeze has that 25% debuff along with being able to prime everything for bugged super powered cryosplosions and cannot be dodged so...

Snape freeze has a 10% debuff and is therefore a much, much, much worse debuff than cryo blast. Reason why cryo blast is no worse than snap freeze, if used in the right way.

[LemurFromTheId]

MajorStupidity wrote...

Why do people keep assuming Cryo blast is terrible 25% more damage against an enemy is nothing to sneeze at... but then again snap freeze has that 25% debuff along with being able to prime everything for bugged super powered cryosplosions and cannot be dodged so...

SF debuff is only 10%, as Deerber said. Also it has much longer cooldown (CB cooldown is perfect for CB - Claymore - Incinerate combo) and short range.

Enemies dodging CB doesn't bother me at all. It stops Marauders and Dragoons from advancing and shooting at you and gives you all the time in the world to line up a perfect Claymore headshot.

I'm not saying CB is necessarily better than SF, but it definitely has its advantages.

[GriM_AoD]

Leland Gaunt wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

FQE is great

Cryo Blast is already a great power

b00g13man wrote...

I like cryo blast as is.

Cryo Blast is a good power.

Yup.
It also  has a low cd so you can use moderately heavy loadouts without suffering much cd-wise..


The power only seems lackluster when compared to snap cheese, which is a pretty broken power imo

Modifié par GriM_AoD, 13 novembre 2013 - 02:52 .

[Jaun Shepard]

FatherOfPearl wrote...

Jaun Shepard wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

FQE is great, Human Infiltrator is very good.

Cryo Blast is already a great power, that would make it overpowered.

With train of thought what is the GI? Orbital bombarbment? And then I guess that a juggernaut is the destiny ascension? 

I... don't understand? The kits are excellent and Cryo Blast is a great debuff.

Sorry I came out a bit harsh there. I just don't like it the cryo blast is inferior yo snap freeze and the fact that cry explosion are so rare except for paladins. Sure it gives more debuff but it doesn't pass through walls isn't multi target nor is it hitscan.

Modifié par Jaun Shepard, 13 novembre 2013 - 03:19 .

[VaultingFrog]

Deerber wrote...

MajorStupidity wrote...

Why do people keep assuming Cryo blast is terrible 25% more damage against an enemy is nothing to sneeze at... but then again snap freeze has that 25% debuff along with being able to prime everything for bugged super powered cryosplosions and cannot be dodged so...

Snape freeze has a 10% debuff and is therefore a much, much, much worse debuff than cryo blast. Reason why cryo blast is no worse than snap freeze, if used in the right way.

Don't forget that Cryo Blast out ranges Snap Freeze by a long shot.

[palmof40sorrows]

VaultingFrog wrote...

Deerber wrote...

MajorStupidity wrote...

Why do people keep assuming Cryo blast is terrible 25% more damage against an enemy is nothing to sneeze at... but then again snap freeze has that 25% debuff along with being able to prime everything for bugged super powered cryosplosions and cannot be dodged so...

Snape freeze has a 10% debuff and is therefore a much, much, much worse debuff than cryo blast. Reason why cryo blast is no worse than snap freeze, if used in the right way.

Don't forget that Cryo Blast out ranges Snap Freeze by a long shot.

Don't forget that Snap Freeze goes through walls by a long shot.

[jrob6]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

VaultingFrog wrote...

Deerber wrote...

MajorStupidity wrote...

Why do people keep assuming Cryo blast is terrible 25% more damage against an enemy is nothing to sneeze at... but then again snap freeze has that 25% debuff along with being able to prime everything for bugged super powered cryosplosions and cannot be dodged so...

Snape freeze has a 10% debuff and is therefore a much, much, much worse debuff than cryo blast. Reason why cryo blast is no worse than snap freeze, if used in the right way.

Don't forget that Cryo Blast out ranges Snap Freeze by a long shot.

Don't forget that Snap Freeze goes through walls by a long shot.

Don't forget that snap cheese is broken, and it's guaranteed to ****** off all of your teammates potentially warranting an [X] before the game even starts .

[Miniditka77]

I agree that Cryo Blast and Cryo Ammo should prime all targets for Cryo Explosions.  I don't think it would be OP.  Cryo Explosions are the worst of all the explosions.  Cryo Blast doesn't have any evolutions to increase combo damage, and it doesn't come on any kits with other powers that would increase its combo damage.  It also can't detonate combos and can be dodged.

Compare it with a power like Warp.  With Warp, you have a slightly longer cooldown, and in exchange, you get to prime all targets (with an explosion bonus), detonate all types of explosions (with a bonus for BEs), prime enemies for redonkulous damage with Warp or Incendiary Ammo, and have a debuff that is almost as good as Cryo Blast.  The only advantages Cryo Blast would have over Warp is a shorter cooldown, slowing movement speed, and an AOE evolution.  Not OP at all.

EDIT: I still like Cryo Blast though - it's a fantastic debuffing power.

Modifié par Miniditka77, 13 novembre 2013 - 06:43 .

[Excella Gionne]

Obviously, one of the best debuffing powers, and it's foolish to skip out on it. It has a very low hidden damage though, because I've killed Brutes with it before.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

I don't like the fact that you cant tell how much more damage your doing to an enemy. and I don't like that you cant really notice that your making any difference to armoured targets

[Excella Gionne]

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

I don't like the fact that you cant tell how much more damage your doing to an enemy. and I don't like that you cant really notice that your making any difference to armoured targets

Use a High DPS gun with Incendiary, Armor Piercing, or Warp rounds on it and it makes a difference. 

[Deerber]

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

I don't like the fact that you cant tell how much more damage your doing to an enemy. and I don't like that you cant really notice that your making any difference to armoured targets

Eh? What do you mean? 

Modifié par Deerber, 13 novembre 2013 - 07:22 .

[megawug]

Yeah, cryo blast is rather underpowered for e-peen players, but great for team play.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

I don't like the fact that you cant tell how much more damage your doing to an enemy. and I don't like that you cant really notice that your making any difference to armoured targets

Eh? What do you mean? 

vid of cryo blast making a difference or it didn't happen

[Deerber]

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

I don't like the fact that you cant tell how much more damage your doing to an enemy. and I don't like that you cant really notice that your making any difference to armoured targets

Eh? What do you mean? 

vid of cryo blast making a difference or it didn't happen

... You're kidding, right? You must be.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

I don't like the fact that you cant tell how much more damage your doing to an enemy. and I don't like that you cant really notice that your making any difference to armoured targets

Eh? What do you mean? 

vid of cryo blast making a difference or it didn't happen

... You're kidding, right? You must be.

sounds like you don't have a vid