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[didacuscarr]

Cryo Blast is awesome as it is. The debuff is very noticeable for me and THS, QFE and HI are great too. And it's fun combined with an AJA. Cryo Blast<Pull<Reave BE a frozen spinning mook in the air with BE and Cryo sound, it's beautiful.

[Deerber]

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

I don't like the fact that you cant tell how much more damage your doing to an enemy. and I don't like that you cant really notice that your making any difference to armoured targets

Eh? What do you mean? 

vid of cryo blast making a difference or it didn't happen

... You're kidding, right? You must be.

sounds like you don't have a vid

Well, it's not exactly mine, but I guess this can work too, right? 

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

I don't like the fact that you cant tell how much more damage your doing to an enemy. and I don't like that you cant really notice that your making any difference to armoured targets

Eh? What do you mean? 

vid of cryo blast making a difference or it didn't happen

... You're kidding, right? You must be.

sounds like you don't have a vid

Well, it's not exactly mine, but I guess this can work too, right? 

its not your vid ... but on this occasion I'll let it slide

hmm ... I see ... well ... mines never been that good ... hmm... gta 5 out the tray ... me3 going in...respec.

thanks for showing me this

[Deerber]

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

its not your vid ... but on this occasion I'll let it slide

hmm ... I see ... well ... mines never been that good ... hmm... gta 5 out the tray ... me3 going in...respec.

thanks for showing me this

No worries. I'd advise you against using a Lancer though. The vid was recorded as soon as it came out, and Feneckus was not aware of many mechanics probably, or just wanted to try it out, as right now a CSMG X is flat out better, as far as automatic weapons go.

If you, like me, prefer shotguns on her... Then you'll already have your favourite, I'm sure 

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

its not your vid ... but on this occasion I'll let it slide

hmm ... I see ... well ... mines never been that good ... hmm... gta 5 out the tray ... me3 going in...respec.

thanks for showing me this

No worries. I'd advise you against using a Lancer though. The vid was recorded as soon as it came out, and Feneckus was not aware of many mechanics probably, or just wanted to try it out, as right now a CSMG X is flat out better, as far as automatic weapons go.

If you, like me, prefer shotguns on her... Then you'll already have your favourite, I'm sure 

scimitar here I come!!!!

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

revenant is terrible for this. eviscerator is ok, but the scimitar is the best so far... wait wut?

[Deerber]

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

revenant is terrible for this. eviscerator is ok, but the scimitar is the best so far... wait wut?

Man... Don't let me tell you what you should use if you want a good shotgun...

The answer's always the same 

[Terrapin]

Pyro Clast is awesome. Esp on the FQE.

[InstaShark]

I was going to make a tl;dr version of this, but...


There are only three things that Cryo Blast has over Snap Freeze: its range is unlimited, it has a short cooldown, and it has a universal debuff for more damage output.

Other than that, I really can't see myself using the FQE over the Paladin.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

Deerber wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

revenant is terrible for this. eviscerator is ok, but the scimitar is the best so far... wait wut?

Man... Don't let me tell you what you should use if you want a good shotgun...

The answer's always the same 

the claymore was excellent, but it was overpowering the mooks and therefore I couldn't get FEs to damage surrounding enemies, cooldown was a bit too slow for me too. 200% FTW! 

but the vindicator worked really well, amazingly well in fact!  i'll try the CSMG tomorrow.

[Deerber]

InstaShark wrote...

I was going to make a tl;dr version of this, but...


There are only three things that Cryo Blast has over Snap Freeze: its range is unlimited, it has a short cooldown, and it has a universal debuff for more damage output.

Other than that, I really can't see myself using the FQE over the Paladin.

It can also freeze more than one enemy at once, while SF can't. Just sayin'...

[InstaShark]

Deerber wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

I was going to make a tl;dr version of this, but...


There are only three things that Cryo Blast has over Snap Freeze: its range is unlimited, it has a short cooldown, and it has a universal debuff for more damage output.

Other than that, I really can't see myself using the FQE over the Paladin.

It can also freeze more than one enemy at once, while SF can't. Just sayin'...

SF can freeze three at a time and has a larger radius. From what I've noticed, it freezes groups of enemies more consistantly with a range of 15m compared to a 2m radius for Cryo Blast.

Modifié par InstaShark, 13 novembre 2013 - 10:15 .

[jrob6]

InstaShark wrote...

I was going to make a tl;dr version of this, but...


There are only three things that Cryo Blast has over Snap Freeze: its range is unlimited, it has a short cooldown, and it has a universal debuff for more damage output.

Other than that, I really can't see myself using the FQE over the Paladin.

You forgot that it doesn't completely destroy team synergy.  

[Deerber]

InstaShark wrote...

SF can freeze three at a time and has a larger radius. From what I've noticed, it freezes groups of enemies more consistantly with a range of 15m compared to a 2m radius for Cryo Blast.

SF can only completely freeze one enemy at a time, while cryo blasst has no such limitations.

[MGW7]

I think that cryo blast should prime armor, along with health, it's not like cryo explosions are that powerful, but it would help the FQE deal AOE around bosses,

[jrob6]

MGW7 wrote...

I think that cryo blast should prime armor, along with health, it's not like cryo explosions are that powerful, but it would help the FQE deal AOE around bosses,

Use incendiary ammo.  Cryo blast ->shoot->incinerate=massive damage and fire explision.  AOE around boss problem solved.

[LemurFromTheId]

Deerber wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

SF can freeze three at a time and has a larger radius. From what I've noticed, it freezes groups of enemies more consistantly with a range of 15m compared to a 2m radius for Cryo Blast.

SF can only completely freeze one enemy at a time, while cryo blasst has no such limitations.

I thought CB only affects two targets at most... am I mistaken?

[Kalas Magnus]

yes.

[bondiboy]

N7didacus wrote...

Cryo Blast is awesome as it is. The debuff is very noticeable for me and THS, QFE and HI are great too. And it's fun combined with an AJA. Cryo Blast<Pull<Reave BE a frozen spinning mook in the air with BE and Cryo sound, it's beautiful.

Hail stones ?

[Deerber]

Aedolon wrote...

Deerber wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

SF can freeze three at a time and has a larger radius. From what I've noticed, it freezes groups of enemies more consistantly with a range of 15m compared to a 2m radius for Cryo Blast.

SF can only completely freeze one enemy at a time, while cryo blasst has no such limitations.

I thought CB only affects two targets at most... am I mistaken?

Yeah it might be, sorry. Posted at 2am. What I meant to say is that it doesn't have the cap at 1 target;)

[ASmoothCriminalx]

I don't see why it wasn't changed to prime on all defenses just as Snap Freeze was.. likely a technical problem.

I think it would be a more balanced snap freeze and I like it.. you would have to at least put your cursor near the enemy rather than spam through walls in an AoE...

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

How do you get cryo blast kills? Got a couple last night, and saw a havoc get one.
Is it like stasis doing 25 damage on contact?

[iOnlySignIn]

Cryo Blast is one of the better powers in this game but it's tailored for CQC since it's a projectile and its freezing effect takes time to process. If you stay at long range enemies are likely to die of other causes before your Cryo Blast takes effect.

That is counter-productive to Human Infiltrator's Cloak, which enhances sniper damage.

Unless you're like Uh Cold and can quicknoscope with the Black Widow all day long. Then the Human Infiltrator becomes one of your best Infiltrators (and hence, best characters overall).

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 14 novembre 2013 - 10:12 .

[ASmoothCriminalx]

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

How do you get cryo blast kills? Got a couple last night, and saw a havoc get one.
Is it like stasis doing 25 damage on contact?

It doesn't do damage so it's not the cryo blast impact. Sometimes, DoTs in this game (like Incendiary ammo, Dark Channel) will do the heavy lifting and actually 'kill' the enemy but for whatever reason the last power to hit the enemy before the dot finishes the kill will show as the finishing blow in the kill feed. At least that's the best I can explain it from my experience.. not the same as all of the Incendiary ammo damage glitches.. but similar.

[Deerber]

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

How do you get cryo blast kills? Got a couple last night, and saw a havoc get one.
Is it like stasis doing 25 damage on contact?

It doesn't do damage so it's not the cryo blast impact. Sometimes, DoTs in this game (like Incendiary ammo, Dark Channel) will do the heavy lifting and actually 'kill' the enemy but for whatever reason the last power to hit the enemy before the dot finishes the kill will show as the finishing blow in the kill feed. At least that's the best I can explain it from my experience.. not the same as all of the Incendiary ammo damage glitches.. but similar.

Uhm, I rather think that CB has a very very small DoT associated to it. Barely noticeable, but if the enemy is almost dead it can deal the killing blow. I've seen Banshees and Praetorians being slayed by it.