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[LOLandStuff]

So that people can make threads asking about it.

[The Elder King]

MisterJB wrote...

It's no more unrealistic than a great number of gameplay abilities in previous games.
Also, the party was fighting tevinters, not templars.

This. Not to mention the ogre's crushing body ability (that based on the cutscene killed Cailan) and the High Dragon's munching skill.

[CuriousArtemis]

I don't like the silliness aspect of the combat we've seen, but it's been part of DA before, so it's not a surprise. It's sort of their signature thing now. And a lot of people like it ^^ I'll not quibble with it much.

[agonis]

Cassandra knocking down a gate: baaad.
Hawke getting Qunari spears driven trough his heart/head/groin: okeeey.

[Tootles FTW]

The gate wasn't the only thing exploding during that scene - my lady-bits went sailing off into the ether out of "DO WANT" astonishment. Stop raining on my parade, grumpy gills!

[chuckles471]

Because people have been asking for a bash ability for locks. Bon Appetit.

[The Elder King]

agonis wrote...

Cassandra knocking down a gate: baaad.
Hawke getting Qunari spears driven trough his heart/head/groin: okeeey.

Not really. The people that don't like some of the skills shown in the demo are the same that didnt like the example you mentioned (as probably DA2 combat), as well as the War Cry skill and the dragon munching skill in DAO.
I don't like all those as well, but since the first game of the series pretty much ruined for me any chance of not having some ridicolous skills and animations, I can live with that.
I'm glad that they've toned down the speed and the normal attack animations look better than in DA2.

Modifié par hhh89, 13 novembre 2013 - 04:04 .

[Rawgrim]

If she can smash castle gates with 2 jabs of her shield, she should be able to kill any enemy the same way.

Why build castles at all if warriors can just smash the gates down that quickly? I hope that bit isn`t in the final version of the game. She Hulk belongs in Marvel games, not Dragon Age Games.

Everything else in the game looks fantastic, though.

[agonis]

hhh89 wrote...

agonis wrote...

Cassandra knocking down a gate: baaad.
Hawke getting Qunari spears driven trough his heart/head/groin: okeeey.

Not really. The people that don't like some of the skills shown in the demo are the same that didnt like the example you mentioned (as probably DA2 combat), as well as the War Cry skill and the dragon munching skill in DAO.
I don't like all those as well, but since the first game of the series pretty much ruined for me any chance of not having some ridicolous skills and animations, I can live with that.
I'm glad that they've toned down the speed and the normal attack animations look better than in DA2.

I´m not a fan of flashy animations either. They are very fine for mages but for warriors and rogues I prefer a more realistic fighting style without special effects. But that is my opinion and preferences.
But the constant complainig for the last month or so about Cassandra knocking down some gates is getting annoying.

[Kleon]

While I kinda like the idea that Cassandra destroyed the gate after two (or was it three?) shield hits I most certainly dislike the two-handed Inquisitor ground-smashing animation. It looked cheap and highly unrealistic.

The awsome button is one of the reasons DA2 was so hated. They overhyped and underdelivered. DA2 was neither tragic nor oh so good, just average, while its marketing campain promised golden mountains.

Modifié par Kunkryst, 13 novembre 2013 - 04:12 .

[Welsh Inferno]

Kunkryst wrote...

While I kinda like the idea that Cassandra destroyed the gate after two (or was it three?) shield hits I most certainly dislike the two-handed Inquisitor ground-smashing animation. It looked cheap and highly unrealistic.

Agreed. I also don't like that effect the "impact" a sword has when you hit the ground. It looks silly. I hope they do away with it.

Cassandra shield bashing down gates is also silly but they've said its a placeholder & will be replaced with something else later on.

[The Elder King]

Rawgrim wrote...

If she can smash castle gates with 2 jabs of her shield, she should be able to kill any enemy the same way.

Why build castles at all if warriors can just smash the gates down that quickly? I hope that bit isn`t in the final version of the game. She Hulk belongs in Marvel games, not Dragon Age Games.

Everything else in the game looks fantastic, though.

I somehow agree, but on the same level I don't think that having your body super resistant to lethal damage belongs in DA, and yet in DAO my warrior survived both being munched by a dragon and being smashed (multiple times i a row) in a ogre's hand (and the game clearly shown that one hit is enough to kill a man). I'd glad if be gate bashing isn't present in the final game, but I can live with that.

@agonis:I agree.

[Anthadlas]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Kunkryst wrote...

While I kinda like the idea that Cassandra destroyed the gate after two (or was it three?) shield hits I most certainly dislike the two-handed Inquisitor ground-smashing animation. It looked cheap and highly unrealistic.

Agreed. I also don't like that effect the "impact" a sword has when you hit the ground. It looks silly. I hope they do away with it.

Cassandra shield bashing down gates is also silly but they've said its a placeholder & will be replaced with something else later on.

Even as a placeholder they could have come up with a less crappy one if they were planning on using it at demo events

[Giant ambush beetle]

The whole combat looks laughable, what bothers me the most is that there is no finesse when fighting with a two handed sword. The Inquisitor wields it like a clumsy Ogre wields a club, trying to beat his enemies to death.

[Fast Jimmy]

chuckles471 wrote...

Because people have been asking for a bash ability for locks. Bon Appetit.

Well, given that only chests have ever been pickable in DA games, I wouldn't have a problem with being able to bash open any chest in the game. Doors (and especially gates for fortresses) are where you start running into a bit of a "whaaaaaa?" type of reaction. 

[Xilizhra]

Aren't there one or two doors in DAO you can kick in?

[Beerfish]

It's a skill. In her particular type of training she has been taught to look for a weak point, apply the right amount of blunt force to that weak point repeatedly and thus be able to break through things others can't.

It's like my old garage door. The door binds and can't be opened unless you grab it from one corner and smoothly lift it in just the right fashion.

How can a person break 15 concrete blocks with their head? Inconceivable! It's all about pressure points, points of weakness and such. she took physics in high school.

[The Elder King]

Xilizhra wrote...

Aren't there one or two doors in DAO you can kick in?

I remember that we can break some wooden barricades (for example in the Alienage in the final quest). I don't remember anything about doors.

[Welsh Inferno]

hhh89 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Aren't there one or two doors in DAO you can kick in?

I remember that we can break some wooden barricades (for example in the Alienage in the final quest). I don't remember anything about doors.

You can kick in Dywn's door in Redcliffe to persuade him to help fight etc. Cant remember any others.

There was a slight explanation for being able to do that too. In brackets it said something along the lines of "..the door has only recently been repaired.."

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 13 novembre 2013 - 04:43 .

[AlexanderCousland]

If Cassandra can slay Dragon's and Demons why are people making a fuss over her being able to knock down a gate?

[The Elder King]

@Welsh Inferno: thanks, I forgot about that.

[Anthadlas]

The Woldan wrote...

The whole combat looks laughable, what bothers me the most is that there is no finesse when fighting with a two handed sword. The Inquisitor wields it like a clumsy Ogre wields a club, trying to beat his enemies to death.

Go and swing a greatsword and see how easy it is. Two handed swords just use their weight and overall force to kill an opponent, you aren't going to be backflipping like a ninja with it

[EmperorSahlertz]

THIS is an issue of believability? Really? It isn't the giant firebreathing flying reptiles, or the metaphysical beings from another dimension haunting the dreams of people able to fry others with their minds. No, no.... It is the fact that you can bash your way through a door.....

Hoenstly BSN... New low....

[Metalspoon60]

Because its a fantasy rpg....

[Anthadlas]

FreshIstay wrote...

If Cassandra can slay Dragon's and Demons why are people making a fuss over her being able to knock down a gate?

Because killing a living creature with a precise attack is concievable. Breaking a fortified structure built to repel
attacks from battering rams, catapults and trebuchets by slapping it with a piece of steel is stupid.

If she is capable of that she may as well just knock an entire section of the wall down by punching it with her fist.