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Started a thread in the "no spoiler" section regarding what does count as missions towards forced progress.
Got great responses, but as it seems, my questions might keep coming (with spoilers) so I'm starting a new thread here so I can hopefully get them answered as they show up.

As it happens I have one right now.

I have been doing all missions I can get my hands on, before Horizon. And there haven't been any problems so far, haven't died more than a couple of times until that smuggling mission with the 3 heavy mechs. And my god took atleast 10-15 times until I beat it with 6 bullets left.
(Felt the same problem on the Hahne Kedar facility with those small mechs, that it was taking it time, but those are so weak.)

So is this something I should worry about, can't remember any big mechs later on, but don't wanna put my points all wrong.


Playing as a soldier, going for AR, With incineration ammo, and that soldier specific thing. Vindicator. Really high dmg is the goal. But with the mechs it's like no damage. (only dmg worth mention is lining up a perfect headshot with mantis while using AR). Didn't notice changing ammo to disruptor either.

Sorry for the long post, gonna mark the actual question

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Straken-SWE wrote...

haven't died more than a couple of times until that smuggling mission with the 3 heavy mechs. And my god took atleast 10-15 times until I beat it with 6 bullets left.

You did take out the YMIRs one-by-one? That is: lured them uphill with the ML-77 (for which you don't need line-of-sight).

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caradoc2000 wrote...

Straken-SWE wrote...

haven't died more than a couple of times until that smuggling mission with the 3 heavy mechs. And my god took atleast 10-15 times until I beat it with 6 bullets left.

You did take out the YMIRs one-by-one? That is: lured them uphill with the ML-77 (for which you don't need line-of-sight).


Well I figured I should try that, but couldn't make it work. Took out the middle one first and then focused on the left, making it possible to hide behind that car, while finishing it, while still in cover from the one on the right. After that I just ran around the car 10 times until my team took it down ^^

Edit. I know my strategy might have been the biggest problem, but it's history, mission is done and over :)

Modifié par Straken-SWE, 13 novembre 2013 - 02:29 .


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That is the easiest way to deal with the mechs and save all the crates.

Anyway, that rocket launcher is a viable weapon against heavy mechs and gunships.

Modifié par caradoc2000, 13 novembre 2013 - 02:37 .


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Will keep that in mind, since Kasumi's loyalty mission is up next

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Do you want a spoiler on Kasumi's mission? I can give you a tip to make it go faster.

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Hahne-Kedar Facility and the Eclipse Smuggling Depot are two of the harder N7 missions in the game. It is interesting that they are unlocked pre-Horizon, especially HK since several post Horizon squaddies are strong on it.

As for YMIR mechs specifically as soldier, weapons in ME2 have defense multipliers and your best anti-shield weapon as a soldier is the shotgun (except perhaps Eviscerator since it sacrifices some shield multiplier for armor multiplier), with snipers and pistols as the best for armor.  Assault rifles are in between.  It is usually worthwhile to shoot their shields with the shotgun and then use the pistol on their armor, from a DPS standpoint, early game.  Vindicator is theoretically decent against both shields and armor, but it is really best reserved for infantry units because of ammo capacity.  The same is somewhat true of the Mantis, although it works ok as pure anti-armor if you really want.

Later game you will end up with the Viper which will be your best all around gun against the YMIR until you get an advanced weapon on Disabled Collector Cruiser.  Then it will somewhat depend on what weapon you take, although all of the advanced weapons are fairly good at everything.

This is partly why I like to take Miranda and Garrus everywhere with me as a Soldier.  They both have anti-shield and barrier powers, which is what Soldier is theoretically "weakest" against.

Modifié par capn233, 13 novembre 2013 - 08:43 .


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Get the Mattock. Destroy everything.

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ME2 Mattock = ME3 Harrier

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cap and gown wrote...

Do you want a spoiler on Kasumi's mission? I can give you a tip to make it go faster.


Y, spoiler it, have played the game and only doing this for the trophy so any tips is fine.

Where do I get the mattock? hated it in me3 and think I never tried it in me2

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Straken-SWE wrote...

Where do I get the mattock? hated it in me3 and think I never tried it in me2

You need the Firepower pack DLC to get it in ME2.

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Well, just in case you didn't know, don't bother with the mooks at the end (except the mechs which can flush you out of cover.) Don't waste any ammo until you get the shields down on the gun ship. You can use Kasumi's overload for that. Once you get the shields down, again don't bother with the mooks, just kill the gunship. End of mission.

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I figure this is an infinite spawn of enemies, til you drop the gunship, but is there anything special happening when getting down the shield?

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Not that I know of, except that Hock taunts you the whole time. :)

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Straken-SWE wrote...


I have been doing all missions I can get my hands on, before Horizon. And there haven't been any problems so far, [u]haven't died more than a couple of times until that smuggling mission with the 3 heavy mechs. And my god took atleast 10-15 times until I beat it with 6 bullets left.

I did that sidequest using the cain. 1 shot and 30 seconds later I was back on the Normandy. I don't remember if I did it before or after Horizon.

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I don't have the cain yet, don't know where to get it honestly? had it pretty late last time and kinda doubt it would be given before the particle rifle? But who knows

Slow but steady progress today, died lots of time on that Chief Roe in the beginning of Kasumi stealing memory quest, but not on the gunship itself. Bad thing is that there was lots of heavy weapon ammo being used during the fight.. Can I only get more ammo for heavy weapons during missions, or can I buy it. Also I only have Jack left before Horizon, but I get more ammo before that Praetorian at the end right?

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Have you checked out all the systems for side quests?

Researching the Cain depends on the number of heavy weapon ammo upgrades you have. Do you have Zaeed? The paragon path on his mission yields a heavy weapon ammo upgrade. The Cain is not a particularly good weapon. Just one shot and only if it is fully charged.

The only way to get heavy weapon ammo is during missions. Can't buy it. In ME2 Shepard likes to go into battle totally unprepared: no restocking on medi-gel, no restocking on heavy weapons ammo. S/he likes to live life on the edge. S/he's totally extreme! :)

There will be more heavy weapon ammo on Horizon before you face the Praetorian. But really, you don't need it. Put your squad in cover and then just run around those trucks on the left side of the quad. Never let the Praetorian take a shot at you, just keep those trucks between you and it so it never has a LoS. Then let your squad mates kill it. Shepard never even needs to fire a single shot.

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Yes all quests before Horizon is done now, and Horizon is done all the way to the Praetorian.
Must have missed one heavy weapon ammo somewhere.

And yes, I must say this, because I couldn't find it myself. There is an autosave between the waves of harbinger, drones, husks, scions and the Praetorian at the end.

@cap and gown - Did you know a way to take 6 missions between Horizon and the collector ship?

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There should be 5 heavy weapon ammo boxes on Horizon: one where you have your first fight. One where you meet Harbinger for the first time, one inside that room with the mechanic, one in the area where you first fight a Scion, and one in the final quadrangle.

Here is my suggested order for missions after Horizon: http://social.biowar.../index/17375622

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Horizon done (man what a let down, was expecting an epic fight) anyway, was thinking Mirandas mission first, then the rest, can I go for any mission now or is there a timer? If there's a timer I want Miranda and Grunt on board ^^

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Yes, there is a timer. 5 missions unless you do the 6 mission work-around. I would point you to the thread I linked above as a way to get 6 missions and both Miranda and Grunt's loyalty missions done.

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Hm, have done Miranda's now, think Samara is the next. Haven't got Grunts yet(?) and keep going.. see where it gets me^^ keep you posted if I run into anything ^^

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I was able to get 6 missions after Horizon by doing Miranda's loyalty mission followed by Jack's loyalty mission and then went back to Illum to recruit Samara and Thane. I went to Tuchanka for Grunt's and Mordin's loyalty mission. On Mordin's mission you get a heavy weapon upgrade and another heavy weapon upgrade when buying at the store.

When you are on Tuchanka and finished either Mordin or Grunt, go back to the shuttle to exchange squadmates(if you wish) making sure not to press the button to take you back to the Normandy

Modifié par themikefest, 22 novembre 2013 - 02:14 .


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Does the same thing apply here regarding the forced process when it comes to the assignments? can I go for those planet scan missions? I think I will go for Grunt and Mordin next anyway so I can get that collector ship over with but would be nice.

Edit. Just read that 8 people is required to trigger it, so might just save Grunt and Mordin for later then, don't think it will matter that much in the end but

Modifié par Straken-SWE, 23 novembre 2013 - 10:27 .


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My Insanity run is done! Thx for all your anwers guys!

Modifié par Straken-SWE, 09 décembre 2013 - 12:11 .