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[NuclearTech76]

megabeast37215 wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

GhostKnife72 wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Most OP on BSN with a few retired players:
DanDCD, HeroicMass, AshenEarth/VoidNexus, UhCold, Disciple888.

Only played a few with Heroic and Ashen but they are thought highly of among great players, and Ashen has taken Disciple to the woodshed by about 100K. Dan is one of the few people that I think could actually beat most great people at this game using a stick for a weapon as well.

Most fun to play with:
BlackProject, Slojack, TheLostSkeleton, Beau, HoochieHamiltoe

And I'm sure I'm forgetting others.

Screw you too pal!!!

Like I said I'm forgetting others I'm sure.

This hurts me...

But you retired. I will include you if we can bombard you with game invites for this game everytime you're online.

[Cohen le Barbare]

silentstep79 wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

I'm the second best player on BSN after FTL. He has over 60,000 N7 and I have over 55,000 N7. No one else on BSN is anywhere near us in terms of global rank. Not even close. We're kings here.

End of discussion.

i'm beginning to think he's actually serious.

Me too...

I'd vote for Feneckus, minus VS the Geth of course 

[megabeast37215]

@Nuclear

I've been playing a good bit lately... I just wait for Bliss though and play other games when shes around. So... Inv if you got two spots.

[NuclearTech76]

megabeast37215 wrote...

@Nuclear

I've been playing a good bit lately... I just wait for Bliss though and play other games when shes around. So... Inv if you got two spots.

Sure thing.

[Ferocious Panda]

I don't think pvp experience has much to do with it. I had almost a 3.0 KDR in MW2 but when I started playing mass effect I sucked just as much as anyone else.

[lightswitch]

My experience in terms of ME3 MP vs. PvP shooters is sort of interesting.

I was terrible at PvP shooters in the past. I dabbled in CSS for about 200 hours where I probably had a .5 k/d in pub matches. The thing about ME3 MP is no other game will throw as many enemies at you in as little time so it makes really good target practice - it's a constant turkey shoot. As a result my aim improved noticeably. I'm still not great at PvP shooters, but I can generally trend above a 1.0 k/d and mostly what's keeping me from being much better than that is I'm still trying to get a hang of things like strafing and all the other little tricks that'll give you the edge in PvP.

edit: also Crimson Vanguard is clearly the best player on BSN as of right now

Modifié par lightswitch, 14 novembre 2013 - 04:17 .

[Slojack]

TchockTckocky wrote...

I Saminator I

Horry Sheet, Im 55 points away from being the best then.  Ah Dammit Mo beat me there.

Modifié par Slojack, 14 novembre 2013 - 05:27 .

[JewelsWinnfield]

megabeast37215 wrote...

I wholeheartedly disagree. The difference in being garbage and above average in this game is directly related to your ability to shoot a gun and not miss. Any idiot can power spam... it's those who can power spam AND shoot well who are 'good'. Therefore... An average PvPer will almost always perform better than someone who came here from solely playing RPGs... Even moreso once the PvPer learns right hand advantage.

Interesting point, although I don't agree with it. I could also twist your argument and say that in order to be good at this game, you need to do two things (shooting and power spamming), whereas in a simple PVP game like CoD you only need to do one thing (shooting). No matter how easy it is to power spam, doing both at the same time is still harder than doing one thing. Let's not forget that there are also a couple of more demanding power classes like the Smashdept. So, the average ME3 playerbase has learned to do two things at the same time and will therefore perform better than the average CoD player. I even had a friend who has been playing CS for many years and didn't get along with the power system when I showed him ME (he just kept on shooting stuff, even with power classes).

Of course, the above argument is garbage, my point is that I don't think that "power spam" is enough to degrade the average skill of a whole playerbase.

I still think that average is just average, whether you play ME or any other game. What many people on BSN suggest is that the average ME player would automatically be below average if he picks up a PVP game (of course factoring in playtime, you can't be a pro right off the start). Nah, I don't believe that. In fact, the majority of people I know in this game are also playing PVP games, and I have no reason to believe that they suck (or not) based on how good they are in ME.

Modifié par Hendrix137, 14 novembre 2013 - 04:52 .

[GriM_AoD]

Me...... Obviously.
































Hahaha, not really. In all honesty, I don't really give a fuck ;D

[Cirvante]

Anarchy__ wrote...

anarchy_ aka 4chanman

That's kind of ironic when you consider the fact that 4chan refers to people like you as cancer.

[NuclearTech76]

Ferocious Panda wrote...

I don't think pvp experience has much to do with it. I had almost a 3.0 KDR in MW2 but when I started playing mass effect I sucked just as much as anyone else.

It doesn't hurt.

A lot of garbage knowledge also goes into ME3 though like knowing Armor mitigation what powers don't work right, etc.

[Moby]

GhostKnife72 wrote...

Actually Nuke is being a little humble here.  He is the consumate team player, despite his Abomination fetish.

Same with Mega and Only1Inch.

The terms "Mega" and "team player" don't really belong in the same conversation.  

[GordianKnot42]

megabeast37215 wrote...

I wholeheartedly disagree. The difference in being garbage and above average in this game is directly related to your ability to shoot a gun and not miss. Any idiot can power spam... it's those who can power spam AND shoot well who are 'good'. Therefore... An average PvPer will almost always perform better than someone who came here from solely playing RPGs... Even moreso once the PvPer learns right hand advantage.

I think there's also something to be said for situational awareness. Knowing how to shoot doesn't do you any good if you're not watching your flank for Hunters or teleporting Banshees.

[nOeXTRACTION]

bgsam1990 wrote...

I'd vote for Hendrix. Quite simply one of the best players around.

[Autumnal Skies]

MaxShine wrote...

I cannot say who is the best single player, but the best duo was clearly Stardusk and _onlybiggs_ They had amazing synergy.

[megabeast37215]

Ferocious Panda wrote...

I don't think pvp experience has much to do with it. I had almost a 3.0 KDR in MW2 but when I started playing mass effect I sucked just as much as anyone else.

Manifest

[megabeast37215]

Hendrix137 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I wholeheartedly disagree. The difference in being garbage and above average in this game is directly related to your ability to shoot a gun and not miss. Any idiot can power spam... it's those who can power spam AND shoot well who are 'good'. Therefore... An average PvPer will almost always perform better than someone who came here from solely playing RPGs... Even moreso once the PvPer learns right hand advantage.

Interesting point, although I don't agree with it. I could also twist your argument and say that in order to be good at this game, you need to do two things (shooting and power spamming), whereas in a simple PVP game like CoD you only need to do one thing (shooting). No matter how easy it is to power spam, doing both at the same time is still harder than doing one thing. Let's not forget that there are also a couple of more demanding power classes like the Smashdept. So, the average ME3 playerbase has learned to do two things at the same time and will therefore perform better than the average CoD player. I even had a friend who has been playing CS for many years and didn't get along with the power system when I showed him ME (he just kept on shooting stuff, even with power classes).

Of course, the above argument is garbage, my point is that I don't think that "power spam" is enough to degrade the average skill of a whole playerbase.

I still think that average is just average, whether you play ME or any other game. What many people on BSN suggest is that the average ME player would automatically be below average if he picks up a PVP game (of course factoring in playtime, you can't be a pro right off the start). Nah, I don't believe that. In fact, the majority of people I know in this game are also playing PVP games, and I have no reason to believe that they suck (or not) based on how good they are in ME.

There is a major element of PvP you aren't accounting for... Making the enemy miss. Halo jumping, drop shotting, circle strafing and of course, taking cover (hard cover/right hand advantage in ME, head glitching in PvP). Sure we have dodge rolls in ME, but it's one dimensional compared to PvP. 

I'm not saying the average ME3MP gamer would suck at PvP... I'm saying a gamer who was an exclusive RPG/action adventure player would suck at PvP. Whether or not you want to admit it, that's what makes up a significant portion of the ME3MP player base. How many times have we heard on BSN someone say, "This is my first ever multiplayer game." Quite a bit. Dat galactic readiness lol.

[EXTRACT10NP01NT]

Caldari Ghost wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

I'm the second best player on BSN after FTL. He has over 60,000 N7 and I have over 55,000 N7. No one else on BSN is anywhere near us in terms of global rank. Not even close. We're kings here.

End of discussion.

someone please tell this guy about all the players with 100k+ N7. jesus, he can't even troll properly because you dont tell him about the high N7 people.

Um where do you find a 100K N7 XBOX?    #2 is in my list at 55 and if the other is 60...well that does not look like 100 to me?  Are you using Fuzzy Logic?

[megabeast37215]

GordianKnot42 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I wholeheartedly disagree. The difference in being garbage and above average in this game is directly related to your ability to shoot a gun and not miss. Any idiot can power spam... it's those who can power spam AND shoot well who are 'good'. Therefore... An average PvPer will almost always perform better than someone who came here from solely playing RPGs... Even moreso once the PvPer learns right hand advantage.

I think there's also something to be said for situational awareness. Knowing how to shoot doesn't do you any good if you're not watching your flank for Hunters or teleporting Banshees.

That comes in time though from memorizing spawn points... Same as PvP really. It's kind of a wash.

[EXTRACT10NP01NT]

Ah your looking at CP not N7:
If some one has the numbers over 38 that would be nice to see...

[Beerfish]

I think there is a bit of progression in this game, experience in other mp games certainly gives you a head start on some of these.

1) A degree of situational awareness
2) Learning game mechanics
3) Learning spawn control
4) Weapons and gear.

This was my progression in this game. The number one thing is to learn enough about not getting shot while shooting the enemy. My start and the start of a lot of new players I see is the amount of ground on face time. If you are down you are not killing things.

The second thing was game mechanics. I had no clue about biotic explosions tech explosions, etc etc. My 1st Drell probably tossed nades 1st and reaved second.

Spawn control, this one really elevates a player, especially if you are playing with other experienced players. I'm still suspect in this regard on some maps and when my fav spawn points are disabled by the actions of other players.

Manifest is a big deal for some weapons and gear but I put it below the other things listed above.

The only MP I ever played before was some NWN which was fun but so different than this I was starting from ground zero. I do think that the next MP game I start playing I'll be way better off as I'll at least have a much better idea of what I should be looking to do and what questions I should be asking rather than being a total neophyte.