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and the" keep "will make our wardens character clear. you know thats the whole point of it

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khariuade wrote...

and the" keep "will make our wardens character clear. you know thats the whole point of it


It'll make their choices clear. I'm not so sure the Keep will be so in depth that it will inquire as to our characters motives.

For instance, a Hawke who sided with the mages does not automatically mean that Hawke agrees with 'mage freedom'.

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question 112: why did hawk side with the mage
A: mage freedom
B: COS
C: YOLO
im quite certain anything we have done in game for watever reason can be put into a multiple choice test fairly easily

Modifié par khariuade, 15 novembre 2013 - 02:54 .


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Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

She killed your warden end of the story next time don't romance ruthless bi*** hahaha

Good thing I went for the redhead then.


SO...I wander what happens if you choose both like me:whistle:

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I was expecting a youtube montage with cheesy teen pop

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FreshIstay wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

She killed your warden end of the story next time don't romance ruthless bi*** hahaha

Good thing I went for the redhead then.


SO...I wander what happens if you choose both like me:whistle:


You can't at least not without bugs because your both li forces you to choose one.

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khariuade wrote...

question 112: why did hawk side with the mage
A: mage freedom
B: COS
C: YOLO
im quite certain anything we have done in game for watever reason can be put into a multiple choice test fairly easily


Well, sure, if the multiple choices are limited to pathetic generalisations.

Why did the Warden choose Morrigan as a romance?
A: mage lovin'
B: COS
C: YOLO

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bluebullets wrote...
Devs said she would be more humanized in interviews, and one hinted that the god baby will further that. I forget who, so I can't go find the link.

They said that? Whenever I hear the term "humanized", I'm starting to fear the worst, namely that Morrigan will be turned into a nice little exemplar of empathy, compassion and conventional morality. I can't express how much I would hate that. I would like it if she moderated her survivalist philosophy somewhat, but that requires subtlely. Not exactly Bioware's strength.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

bluebullets wrote...
Devs said she would be more humanized in interviews, and one hinted that the god baby will further that. I forget who, so I can't go find the link.

They said that? Whenever I hear the term "humanized", I'm starting to fear the worst, namely that Morrigan will be turned into a nice little exemplar of empathy, compassion and conventional morality. I can't express how much I would hate that. I would like it if she moderated her survivalist philosophy somewhat, but that requires subtlely. Not exactly Bioware's strength.


Bear in mind, it's been at least 10 years since her time with the Warden.

We missed much of her social and emotional growth.

Presumably, based on this pic, she is the court mage to Empress Celene.

That's a far cry from where she was before.

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

She killed your warden end of the story next time don't romance ruthless bi*** hahaha

Good thing I went for the redhead then.


SO...I wander what happens if you choose both like me:whistle:


You can't at least not without bugs because your both li forces you to choose one.


No bugs. All you have to do Is tell make sure you sleep with Leliana first, then sleep with Morrigan and then trigger her jealously dialogue tell her you will break up with Leliana and then when Leliana  asks about Morrigan lie to her.

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FreshIstay wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

She killed your warden end of the story next time don't romance ruthless bi*** hahaha

Good thing I went for the redhead then.


SO...I wander what happens if you choose both like me:whistle:


You can't at least not without bugs because your both li forces you to choose one.


No bugs. All you have to do Is tell make sure you sleep with Leliana first, then sleep with Morrigan and then trigger her jealously dialogue tell her you will break up with Leliana and then when Leliana  asks about Morrigan lie to her.


And that is bug do you rly think outside gameplay when you break up with leliana for morrigan she would gladly jump into relationship with you when you still are with morrigan? ;)

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

khariuade wrote...

question 112: why did hawk side with the mage
A: mage freedom
B: COS
C: YOLO
im quite certain anything we have done in game for watever reason can be put into a multiple choice test fairly easily


Well, sure, if the multiple choices are limited to pathetic generalisations.

Why did the Warden choose Morrigan as a romance?
A: mage lovin'
B: COS
C: YOLO

or

D: Rack of power



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Yeah, I'm hoping for this too. Also hoping their kid won't be yet another cliche boy, but regardless, I'm more hoping they'll just show up. Especially since Loghain is with the Wardens now, Alsitar is dead and my Warden is a mage; should be very interesting.

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TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Yeah, I'm hoping for this too. Also hoping their kid won't be yet another cliche boy, but regardless, I'm more hoping they'll just show up. Especially since Loghain is with the Wardens now, Alsitar is dead and my Warden is a mage; should be very interesting.


Well Morrigan will have a significant role in DAI that will change depending on if you did the ritual or had a child since they've already said that has to be taken into account but not much beyond that other than the dr being more significant than the other child but maybe not important as some of the hardcore might want, also if you romanced her or not since if not and you did not sleep with her she joins Celenes court.

Not sure about Loghain since he's already pushing the minimum range of a grey wardens life expectancy which is most commonly in between 10-30 though it could be as less than 5 years but has to take many factors like age, willpower etc. Given his advanced age and the fact it's been over 10 years he might be dead even though he was confirmed to be alive in year 7 adding another 4-5 years to that will take a tremendous toll on his aging body though there's a chance his willpower is strong enough to hold out until somepoint in DAI and take his march.

If Alistair is dead Laidlaw said they'll proceed with Anora as ruler, not sure what role the warden has or what their future is.

@kunikos Nah. If Alistair’s dead and Anora’s queen, we can support that in sequels.11:07am - 20 Oct 13


Oh yeah one more thing Morrigan's fate will be decided in Dai according to the GI cover story and somethings they said.

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

She killed your warden end of the story next time don't romance ruthless bi*** hahaha

Good thing I went for the redhead then.


SO...I wander what happens if you choose both like me:whistle:


You can't at least not without bugs because your both li forces you to choose one.


No bugs. All you have to do Is tell make sure you sleep with Leliana first, then sleep with Morrigan and then trigger her jealously dialogue tell her you will break up with Leliana and then when Leliana  asks about Morrigan lie to her.


And that is bug do you rly think outside gameplay when you break up with leliana for morrigan she would gladly jump into relationship with you when you still are with morrigan? ;)


considering the stories she hints at... it can happen. (also from what was moded back into the game, it seemed like it was going to be part of the game anyway.

funny enough i had it happen, in this way, which I think was pretty beliveable. Started relationship with Mori, Rejected Liliana's first advancement. then got her like points back up to top, and then she confessed, and no comment from Mor or lileana about each others status with the warden.

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Nightdragon8 wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

She killed your warden end of the story next time don't romance ruthless bi*** hahaha

Good thing I went for the redhead then.


SO...I wander what happens if you choose both like me:whistle:


You can't at least not without bugs because your both li forces you to choose one.


No bugs. All you have to do Is tell make sure you sleep with Leliana first, then sleep with Morrigan and then trigger her jealously dialogue tell her you will break up with Leliana and then when Leliana  asks about Morrigan lie to her.



And that is bug do you rly think outside gameplay when you break up with leliana for morrigan she would gladly jump into relationship with you when you still are with morrigan? ;)


considering the stories she hints at... it can happen. (also from what was moded back into the game, it seemed like it was going to be part of the game anyway.

funny enough i had it happen, in this way, which I think was pretty beliveable. Started relationship with Mori, Rejected Liliana's first advancement. then got her like points back up to top, and then she confessed, and no comment from Mor or lileana about each others status with the warden.



Having two li is just exploiting gameplay bugs
because to have two li in end of the game you need brake up for one li
to another because li don't like you cheat on them with other and as in
gameplay they didn't thought that someone may do that so there is no second "jealously" talk but it is clear that both partners don't accept that you have another so it is clear that if you do that normally you would be screwd second time with another talk probably less pleasant or even li wouldn't want go into relationship after you broke with her/him.

PS about lie you can lie leliana only in first conversation about morrigan or zevran if you
sleep with them and you have with them less than 75 approval second conversation where you are forced to break with second li is after you have with both li above 75 approval and if you lied leliana she knows that you did it and is angry because you lied her.

So there is no way to romance them without both li knowing that you romance someone else and they don't approve that forcing you to choose.

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MasterScribe wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

bluebullets wrote...
Devs said she would be more humanized in interviews, and one hinted that the god baby will further that. I forget who, so I can't go find the link.

They said that? Whenever I hear the term "humanized", I'm starting to fear the worst, namely that Morrigan will be turned into a nice little exemplar of empathy, compassion and conventional morality. I can't express how much I would hate that. I would like it if she moderated her survivalist philosophy somewhat, but that requires subtlely. Not exactly Bioware's strength.


Bear in mind, it's been at least 10 years since her time with the Warden.

We missed much of her social and emotional growth.

Presumably, based on this pic, she is the court mage to Empress Celene.

That's a far cry from where she was before.

Oh, I don't mind her changing, or of changed circumstances. It's the direction I'm worried about. It happens in every second story I play or view with significant character development, that I come to like a "grey" character and then they "humanize" them into plain old boring normality and goodness. And in the other 50% of stories, the reason that doesn't happen isn't that they refrain from this detestable convention, but that there are no grey characters I like to begin with. In DAO I could influence this in Alistair and Leliana, that was something, but even there it was perfectly clear that there was a preferred direction, and it wasn't the one I preferred.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 15 novembre 2013 - 03:02 .


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I guess we'll see soon enough Bioware's stance in being able to romance two characters in DAO. Considering that the Keep is for now the only confirmed way to import in DAI the choices we made in the previous games, if it's not present there it means Bioware aknowledged that OG's a bug/glitch.
I seriously doubt you'll be able to pick both as romanced without breaking up with one, though.

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hhh89 wrote...

I guess we'll see soon enough Bioware's stance in being able to romance two characters in DAO. Considering that the Keep is for now the only confirmed way to import in DAI the choices we made in the previous games, if it's not present there it means Bioware aknowledged that OG's a bug/glitch.
I seriously doubt you'll be able to pick both as romanced without breaking up with one, though.


Yeah I doubt that we can have 2 active LI's in the keep so I agree that they will probably force a break up with one l, and proceed with whatever one you chose as being the active one in DAI, we'll find out eventually when tbe games released what the endgame is for our wardens and hawkes and our chosen LI's.

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

And that is bug do you rly think outside gameplay when you break up with leliana for morrigan she would gladly jump into relationship with you when you still are with morrigan? ;)



Well considering there is literally a dialogue option in which I can lie to Leliana about seeing Morrigan I really dont think it's a bug. I really dont care what Leliana or Morrigan think about me seeing both of them, makes no difference to me, they are gameplay options I exploited them, no different from real life.

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Having two li is just exploiting gameplay bugs
because to have two li in end of the game you need brake up for one li
to another because li don't like you cheat on them with other and as in
gameplay they didn't thought that someone may do that so there is no second "jealously" talk but it is clear that both partners don't accept that you have another so it is clear that if you do that normally you would be screwd second time with another talk probably less pleasant or even li wouldn't want go into relationship after you broke with her/him.

PS about lie you can lie leliana only in first conversation about morrigan or zevran if you
sleep with them and you have with them less than 75 approval second conversation where you are forced to break with second li is after you have with both li above 75 approval and if you lied leliana she knows that you did it and is angry because you lied her.

So there is no way to romance them without both li knowing that you romance someone else and they don't approve that forcing you to choose.


Hey, just because they made YOU CHOOSE doesnt mean they made me, which they didn't, the issue never came up again and I ended the game with both referring to me as "my love". Unless Gaider outright states it isn't possible for both LI' s to recognize the relationship between themselves and the Warden if romanced simultaneously. 

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FreshIstay wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

And that is bug do you rly think outside gameplay when you break up with leliana for morrigan she would gladly jump into relationship with you when you still are with morrigan? ;)



Well considering there is literally a dialogue option in which I can lie to Leliana about seeing Morrigan I really dont think it's a bug. I really dont care what Leliana or Morrigan think about me seeing both of them, makes no difference to me, they are gameplay options I exploited them, no different from real life.


*sigh* first as i said we have two talks with leliana jealousy first is when you sleept with morrigan here you can lie her and that is previous conversation in second jealousy talk which is after first if you lied leliana she knows that you have relationship with morrigan and point that you lied her as well demands you can't lie her in second talk you can only break with one of them. I think that you don't understand that gameplay and story are separate.You used gap that devs didn't think about to fix li forces you to break up because they didn't accept that you are with other so do you think for example leliana or morrigan after you said her screw you would just come back to you and agree that you sleep with morrian or leliana and yes everyone knows who you romace because you share damn camp.   Damn i hope that you understand:pinched:.

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I just hope that she still loves the PC in spite of her coldness.

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TheButterflyEffect wrote...
I just hope that she still loves the PC in spite of her coldness.

You mean Morrigan? She didn't come across as cold to me in Witch Hunt. I just regret I didn't have the option to answer as I wanted when she asked why I wanted to come: "I'm curious how this will all end. And I want to be with you. How could I not want to do something that satisfies both desires?"

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