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Any chance races will be re-introduced or redesigned for the next ME?


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animedreamer

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 For example the Quarian's, any chance their appearance wont be based off of Tali should they have their face shields removed? I liked the idea of them having head ridges and not hair, they could still look fairly attractive but one design on deviantart really caught my attention, and thought it was both alien and beautiful. Can't find it at the moment but figured i'd see what other peoples opinions were?

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New races, yes, there is already forshafowing for that assuning the next game is set in the future.

Geth and Quarians, who knows.
They mightdecide to kill off both. Either Shepard killed them or something else.
If you saved the Quarians and killed of geth then the Quarians might still die from a failing immunesydtem resulting in their extinction.
If you saved the Geth and didn't pick dedtroy then a dornant Reaper virus might kill them off in some hortibly angushing way.
If you saved both then both dies a horible death.
Krogans are wiped out by the cure... We get new replacement races to fill the holes created.
Raloi = new Quarians... the cowards who hid away from the Reapers.
Virtual aliens some how survived ehatever Shepard did and replaces the Geth.
Yagh replaces the Krogsns.

Hopefully I'm wrong.
Humand will be there because most people especialy casuals want to play as humans.
Asari because they are Iconic (Liara) and sex appeal of blue alien females.
Turians, yes, kind of iconic (Garrus) and they couldnt die likr grth qusrisn and krogans.

I hope I'm wrong but it's one of the easy ways out for a writer that wants something new and want to cut off all bagage to focus on the new story.

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With the krogan, I'm guessing that the general design would stay pretty much the same, but there's room for some variation. Grunt is a fair example of a krogan redesign that could be incorporated into some individuals in the next game, as well as different colors, markings, etc.. If they account for the fact that Grunt would likely be high up on list of males best suited for breeding, then more than likely.

The quarians seem like the biggest candidates for a redesign, since we never get to see the characters' faces (other than the throwaway 'shop) and the only thing we really associate with their outward appearance is a suit, which can easily be replaced with an updated design.

I guess the geth depends on a few things, but I can see them getting updated as well, but probably not substantially. This is if they even exist in the setting of the next story.

The raloi should be a given. They at least get a mention in 3, but it'd be a shame to not introduce at least these guys to expand upon the MEU.

I'd like the virtual aliens to be there, but I don't know if the writers will even care to make them a visible entity to the player. I can't recall there ever being any mention of them in any of the games, so I doubt that they will.

I don't expect any changes to the turians, asari, batarians, hanar or yagh. The vorcha might go through some changes, and really, maybe they should. I always found their appearance to be the most troublesome of the lot. All of the other races give off this air of plausibility, but the vorcha are just whacked out.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 14 novembre 2013 - 09:46 .


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Well it's likely that the next Mass Effect will have changes in the aliens in some manner or another. Let's just hope they don't use that as an excuse to go Total ReCanon like the did to the Qunari in DA2. It was like no horns on the Qunari in DAO and then poof... horns everywhere so let's semi recanon the DA universe to justify a pretty ugly re-skinning.

Modifié par spinachdiaper, 14 novembre 2013 - 10:10 .


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No everything is going to be exactly the same. When they announce ME4 they will tell you to just replay ME3 and give them $60 for it again.

Seriously though, if you think about all the decisions throughout ME1 - ME3, some race will die or change. (if ME4 is set some point after ME3).

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Quarians without suits on Rannoch!
Geth still around.

Hopefully the Asari are capitalistic, technologically advanced, and a strong military power. They're not all sugar and spice and everything nice. More Commandos and fewer strippers. Strippers do not build an empire like that, Bioware.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Hopefully the Asari are capitalistic, technologically advanced, and a strong military power. They're not all sugar and spice and everything nice. More Commandos and fewer strippers. Strippers do not build an empire like that, Bioware.


I dont have a problem with there being fewer strippers, but I think they were the main way of representing that the Asari civilisation was exceedingly oppulent and has descended into decadence. Strippers didn't build the empire but their empire is at a state that they don't need to work or strive in the same way and that is the result.

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Salarian's who have been playing with genetic engineering. 7 foot Salarian warriors spliced with Yahg DNA while the diplomat's have gone trans....salarianist

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For example the Quarian's, any chance their appearance wont be based off of Tali should they have their face shields removed?

Since the quarians faces are only shown in one lore-breaking (when did Tali remove here helmet to take that picture with her flowing hair?) crappily photoshopped picture.

one design on deviantart really caught my attention

Yes, most of them would have made perfect monsters in the Alien vs Predator franchise - seriously, most of the fan creations are creepy as fcuk.

The rest of the ME species have appeared in plenty of games, comics, books and anime and as such I can't really see them changing the appearances too much (beyond the usual crappy comics not matching lore at all)
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Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 14 novembre 2013 - 11:30 .


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"Raloi = new Quarians... the cowards who hid away from the Reapers."

A perspective here:

What was the alternative, they had just been discovered? They had no ships, no high end technology. Couple of years ago they didnt even know there was any alien life in the galaxy or hadnt even gone out of their solar system yet. Then you meet alien life and within few months after all the jubilation comes the real negative bomb: you learn of a threat so great it cant very well be matched by anything you know of and which destroyes every civilization it knows about, horribly. What would you do?

Humanity would have done the same in their shoes. Would you risk your discovering for total annihilation of your species?

Raloi had a really really really bad and unfortunate timing.

Modifié par Armass81, 15 novembre 2013 - 02:36 .


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Malanek999 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Hopefully the Asari are capitalistic, technologically advanced, and a strong military power. They're not all sugar and spice and everything nice. More Commandos and fewer strippers. Strippers do not build an empire like that, Bioware.


I dont have a problem with there being fewer strippers, but I think they were the main way of representing that the Asari civilisation was exceedingly oppulent and has descended into decadence. Strippers didn't build the empire but their empire is at a state that they don't need to work or strive in the same way and that is the result.


The thing is that the Turians and Salarians were also in the same state where they didn't need to work or strive in the same way they had when they built their empires. This is where your argument falls flat. Turian civilization was 15,000 years old. Salarians were the second civilization to discover The Citadel. 

It was strictly Bioware writers' fault that they did not present the other parts of Asari society. Matriarch Aethyta was the foil that poked fun at Bioware's own ineptness at creating an Asari society. 

So were the Asari too successful? If an empire nearly eliminates poverty, unemployment, has an e-democracy, provides universal health care, are those bad things? Should there be a certain minimum of poverty as a threat so that people work harder otherwise they will become strippers and prostitutes? :?

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Here's an example of changing racial appearance because of better graphics.

I personally like the more reptilian appearance.

I think ME could follow something similar to get the aliens a bit more alien.

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Steelcan wrote...

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Here's an example of changing racial appearance because of better graphics.

I personally like the more reptilian appearance.

I think ME could follow something similar to get the aliens a bit more alien.


"More alien" is a rather relative and subjective term. Both of those look rather alien to me. Bioware can improve on the existing races, they dont need to change them that much(except the quarians, that would do some good, IMO we dont need purple space elves when we already have the asari).

Modifié par Armass81, 15 novembre 2013 - 04:40 .


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Quarians are the only species that could ever get a redesign, as they never really got a proper reveal. I see nothing wrong with retconning a barely photo-shopped stock photo.

The others should all more or less keep the same appearance however. There isn't any reason to redesign the rest, and DA2 is not a good game to be mimicking.

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I really hope they introduce the " race " of blonde women in ME4. For some reason they don't like blondes at all in their game....

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It'd be cool to finally see the Raloi.

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maaaad365 wrote...

I really hope they introduce the " race " of blonde women in ME4. For some reason they don't like blondes at all in their game....


Miranda was originally supposed to be blonde.

I think the lack of blondes was something to do with not being able to get blonde hair to look right. The books tried to it give it some weird lore explanation of blondism having largely died out by the time ME1 is set.

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Yeah the books say blonde is a recessive trait. Even Kahlee is a darker blonde. But they do say that genetic or cosmdtic tweaking means that the amount of blonde haired people is basically the same as today. So beats me.

Raloi would be cool I hope the yahg become more advanced and make a reappearance. Never before heard of races would be nice too. Some of the concepts from the original games were trippy neat - and unused.

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Han Shot First wrote...

maaaad365 wrote...

I really hope they introduce the " race " of blonde women in ME4. For some reason they don't like blondes at all in their game....


Miranda was originally supposed to be blonde.

I think the lack of blondes was something to do with not being able to get blonde hair to look right. The books tried to it give it some weird lore explanation of blondism having largely died out by the time ME1 is set.


Well, considering that blonde is a resessive genetic trait, I'm not too shocked with the lack of blondes.

Also blue eyes, I think I read that it's estimated that less than 8% of the current world's population has blue eyes....and as that small pool of blue eyed people breed more and more with brown eyed people....Bye Bye blue eyes!

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Come on guys, blondes will never dissapear, that's just an excuse from Bioware. They could add a few non-essential characters with blonde hair to make the atmosphere more pleasing and make the game less weird.

And btw, people die their hair blonde all the time, you don't have to be a natural blonde.

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Interestingly, the Vorcha appeared to undergo a small re-design for the Omega DLC.

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Jaulen wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

maaaad365 wrote...

I really hope they introduce the " race " of blonde women in ME4. For some reason they don't like blondes at all in their game....


Miranda was originally supposed to be blonde.

I think the lack of blondes was something to do with not being able to get blonde hair to look right. The books tried to it give it some weird lore explanation of blondism having largely died out by the time ME1 is set.


Well, considering that blonde is a resessive genetic trait, I'm not too shocked with the lack of blondes.

Also blue eyes, I think I read that it's estimated that less than 8% of the current world's population has blue eyes....and as that small pool of blue eyed people breed more and more with brown eyed people....Bye Bye blue eyes!


Blonde or red hair and blue or green eyes aren't going to disappear. That's a popular myth, not science. They might decline but they aren't going to vanish.

HowStuffWorks and Snopes both covered it well.

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We need a blonde revolution in ME4. PERIOD !

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The Star Control Saga could serve the inspiration for tons of more alien races ;) (the direct inspiration for the asari race comes from this triolgy).

I also wonder what happened to all those reaper creatures after the Reapers just stopped doing what they were doing (whichever end you picked). For example, what would happen to a husk or a marauder when it doesn't listen to their voices and don't need to support the harvest any further?