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[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

Movie logic, everyone dies.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

favoritehookeronthecitadel wrote...

Movie logic, everyone dies.

No, the bartender always lives.

[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

Yeah. But in all seriousness, Liara's recording was pretty grim, and I'm worried about everyone.

[His Name was HYR!!]

No one important.


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[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

No one important.


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Garrus 
Garrus' calibrations

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

It could be done. The Normandy meets up with an Asari ship, finds a world of primitives. Liara and the crew members have the Normandy drop them off on shuttles. EDI takes the Normandy out of the system. The Asari ship remote pilots into the star with all of the shuttles, and they live like primitives. Liara keeps the time capsule and builds an archive. They mate with the local population. The reapers would never find them. Liara could even survive it. 800 years for Asari is only 3 generations. It won't be all stories, especially with the archive. They start rebuilding their civilization. They're the only ones I see surviving it.

[Wulfram]

I think a lot of species could survive somewhere, particularly the ones who have been in space a long time and had time to spread out, but their civilisation wouldn't - you probably would need to go dark for centuries to wait out the Reapers, and I doubt by that time you'd be able to get back into space or anything like that. Though long lived species might have more chance.

Though you kind of have to assume the Reapers are pretty good at making a throrough cleaning, or there'd be more survivors of previous cycles present in this one.

I don't see the Raloi or Yahg surviving - if the Reapers left them, they'd be guaranteeing that they'd need to come back pretty soon.

Modifié par Wulfram, 14 novembre 2013 - 10:44 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

I would like to think everyone survives (they don't actual show anyone getting defeated). After Refusing the Catalyst, Shepard tells Hacket what just happened and after consorting with the Crucible engineers Hacket gets back to Shepard with a plan to activate some self destruct button. The Victory fleet retreats and before the Reapers know what's happening the Crucible and the Citadel blow up along with Shepard and the Reapers.

The end scene is just Liara picking up the probes.

[SwobyJ]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

It could be done. The Normandy meets up with an Asari ship, finds a world of primitives. Liara and the crew members have the Normandy drop them off on shuttles. EDI takes the Normandy out of the system. The Asari ship remote pilots into the star with all of the shuttles, and they live like primitives. Liara keeps the time capsule and builds an archive. They mate with the local population. The reapers would never find them. Liara could even survive it. 800 years for Asari is only 3 generations. It won't be all stories, especially with the archive. They start rebuilding their civilization. They're the only ones I see surviving it.

Yep.

So far, I see the asari as the 'baseline' for Mass Effect. The species, characters (especially a potential for Liara as matriarch always exists), and little blue babies.

Maybe that could change, but so far, I'd expect asari to survive anything, even if they're brought back to primitive levels.

I have to admit though, I believe this partially because of my personal opinion that the asari existed in all cycles in different societal forms.

[SwobyJ]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

I would like to think everyone survives (they don't actual show anyone getting defeated). After Refusing the Catalyst, Shepard tells Hacket what just happened and after consorting with the Crucible engineers Hacket gets back to Shepard with a plan to activate some self destruct button. The Victory fleet retreats and before the Reapers know what's happening the Crucible and the Citadel blow up along with Shepard and the Reapers.

The end scene is just Liara picking up the probes.

I like to imagine something like that too, but the Stargazing scene appears otherwise.

Though Bioware could be using more clever use of semantics in it, I admit.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 14 novembre 2013 - 10:48 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

SwobyJ wrote...

I like to imagine that too, but the Stargazing scene appears otherwise.

Oh blast, foiled again.

In all seriousness though, I think a decent number of people could survive. Ilos and Eden Prime show that there is some sort of weakness in the Reaper's sweeping methods (I think that mainly that they rely on information within the Citadel to find inhabited worlds, rather than thoroughly searching every planet). The Reapers apparently didn't find all of Liara's data caches either.

[BronzTrooper]

The Raloi if they are lucky and any other pre-space flight species in the galaxy. Colonist/Sole Survivor Shep too. Cause s/he's a survivor... lol. And Zaeed. Also, anyone in top-secret locations that might have had all their info located on Arcturus Station. That's how the Prothean scientists on Ilos survived. All the data on Ilos that was on the Citadel was destroyed when the Reapers hit. I could also see the Asari surviving and maybe the Krogan if the Genophage was cured, but only just.

[SwobyJ]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

I like to imagine that too, but the Stargazing scene appears otherwise.

Oh blast, foiled again.

In all seriousness though, I think a decent number of people could survive. Ilos and Eden Prime show that there is some sort of weakness in the Reaper's sweeping methods (I think that mainly that they rely on information within the Citadel to find inhabited worlds, rather than thoroughly searching every planet). The Reapers apparently didn't find all of Liara's data caches either.

Like I said, Bioware may be using clever use of semantics in the end

I do though consider Refuse to be the same as ShepDies in ME2. Something that'll be understood (if the series continues chronologically in some way), but not outright followed up on. Just an alternate timeline.

[illusive.man]

Why wouldn't the intelligent spacefaring species just hide on a planet with non spacefaring species which the reapers did not plan to kill

[SwobyJ]

illusive.man wrote...

Why wouldn't the intelligent spacefaring species just hide on a planet with non spacefaring species which the reapers did not plan to kill

I would guess that Reapers would still monitor non-spacefaring species. Even maybe test on them.

[MrStoob]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
They will go into cryosleep powered by solar arrays scattered around the desert, and by tidal and nuclear power. 

So a few well placed pieces of ordnance should sort them out.  Next!

[illusive.man]

Then why not just get the united fleet of all the species and travel into dark space to another galaxy to start anew, the fleet could become self sustaining like the Quarian fleet
leave the galaxy its simple

[Darks1d3]

illusive.man wrote...

Then why not just get the united fleet of all the species and travel into dark space to another galaxy to start anew, the fleet could become self sustaining like the Quarian fleet
leave the galaxy its simple

Because there are no mass relays to take you to another galaxy. Standard FTL travel would not work. Every ship would run out of fuel before they even got close. Besides the closest galaxy(Andromeda) is 2.5 million light years away. Even if they somehow had enough fuel and were able to use FTL travel, it would take atleast 800,000 to 1,000,000 years to get there. If I was being optimistic, maybe 250,000. (I'm not quite sure what speeds are attainable with FTL travel in mass effect). Another thing to take into account is any "light" we're getting from Andromeda is, again, 2.5 million years old. We don't even know if it's still there or not.

Modifié par Darks1d3, 15 novembre 2013 - 12:42 .

[SwobyJ]

illusive.man wrote...

Then why not just get the united fleet of all the species and travel into dark space to another galaxy to start anew, the fleet could become self sustaining like the Quarian fleet
leave the galaxy its simple

The Quarian Fleet is not self sustaining.

There's a reason why no one likes when they come near them.

[illusive.man]

Then nobody would survive refuse

[His Name was HYR!!]

favoritehookeronthecitadel wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

No one important.


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Garrus 
Garrus' calibrations

Overrated =/= important.

[Arcian]

knucks360 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Zaeed is the only one to walk out alive.

Just picture them cracking him out of a cryo pod like Javik...

It is a sad irony that he is voiced by the only voice actor who didn't make it out of ME3 alive.

[NeroonWilliams]

BeastSaver wrote...

I disagree on the Yahg, KaiserShep. It's true they aren't spacefaring, but considering how well the Shadow Broker did for as long as he did, they are clearly able to easily adjust to more advanced technology. I think the Reapers were leaving them alone at the moment because they weren't going anywhere.

+1000

As near as I can tell, the cutoff for harvesting seems to be writing.  As long as a civilization has not come up with the idea of writing down knowledge for transmission, they won't be harvested.  Writing accellerates technological advancement immensely, and in order to keep the length between cycles sufficiently long, any species that is using it needs to go so far as the Reapers are concerned.

The Yagh as they are described seem to be in the throes of an Industrial Revolution or even a Space Race.  Either one means they are system bound and therefore "easy pickings".  Save that for cleanup.

[Hazegurl]

Only three people will survive the Harvest no matter what the reapers throw at them.

Torfan/Survivor Shepards. One would throw everybody at the Reapers while he makes his escape and the other will crawl under a rock no one knew existed with a stais pod ready.

Zaeed, it says something when I can look at that pic above and actually believe it.

Hackett, I just see him making it out alive somehow.