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I'm predicting this thread is closed before the end of today.

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Probably referring to Timbuctu( spelling). There's a book, probably several books but I've only seen one many years ago that was about ancient black empires and it mentioned that one along with others.
I did watch Shaka Zulu on PBS many years ago and it was well done. But the zulus lost to the British and the Boers who had guns.
I think it's ok to stand up for your race, but you can't compare those black empires to Ancient Greece, I'm including the Macedonians and Alexander the Great with them and the Romans. There's no comparison . shrugs.


Roman Empire
Anyone? Multiple Cultures there.

Okay...Im done.

Edit: oh and swarthy/black/ebon/tan skinned people existed throughout time, Alexander was not white, his Empire and the Majority of his armies were a mix of cultures AND they were competing with Persians for dominance, hardly a lily white world..despite how Hollywood shows it. Oh well. And...this time I'm done 4shizzle.


And where is Rome now, my friend? All great nations and empires eventually fall. Some things fell them quicker than others.

And the Greeks were absolutely Caucasian, which is what I personally consider "White." Complexion by itself has nothing to do with it - we are bound by a common ancestral origin, much as "Blacks" are.

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x-aizen-x wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Probably referring to Timbuctu( spelling). There's a book, probably several books but I've only seen one many years ago that was about ancient black empires and it mentioned that one along with others.
I did watch Shaka Zulu on PBS many years ago and it was well done. But the zulus lost to the British and the Boers who had guns.
I think it's ok to stand up for your race, but you can't compare those black empires to Ancient Greece, I'm including the Macedonians and Alexander the Great with them and the Romans. There's no comparison . shrugs.


Roman Empire
Anyone? Multiple Cultures there.

Okay...Im done.


lol omg is this far from the truth. this is exactly what I mean. On tv they only show the savage tribes like the Zulu. there is so much wrong with this I don't even know were to start. the Greeks and romans were nothing compared to the ancient Nubians or the ancient Ethiopians. See they aren't going to show any of the powerful black civilizations on tv. they are only going to show the poorer savage ones. The ancient greeks and romans were children compared to the ancient black civilizations. you just haven't heard of any of them. And alexander? lol. when he saw how big Candice of monro's army was and how many war elephants she had, he order his entire army to retreat with out even fighting.

I think it's ok to stand up for your race, but you can't compare those white empires to Ancient Nubia, I'm including the Egyptians, the Ethiopians, the Cu****es and Queen Sheba with them. There's no comparison . shrugs

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Egyptians were white yo. I think Mali was a decent African kingdom too? Iunno, things seem to work differently in Africa and they always seem to be less than cutting edge. Guess life just moves slower there because of the heat and the constant famines and civil wars setting them back.

Still, if even once muddy backwaters like Scotland, Ireland and Scandinavia can attain first world status there's no reason why African countries can't. They just need to sort out their governments and try to narrow the divide between rich and poor to increase productivity overall. Hopefully as the world progresses closer to a "one world government" we'll be able to straighten things out a bit.

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Angrywolves wrote...

Probably referring to Timbuctu( spelling). There's a book, probably several books but I've only seen one many years ago that was about ancient black empires and it mentioned that one along with others.
I did watch Shaka Zulu on PBS many years ago and it was well done. But the zulus lost to the British and the Boers who had guns.
I think it's ok to stand up for your race, but you can't compare those black empires to Ancient Greece, I'm including the Macedonians and Alexander the Great with them and the Romans. There's no comparison . shrugs.



lol omg is this far from the truth. this is exactly what I mean. On tv they only show the savage tribes like the Zulu. there is so much wrong with this I don't even know were to start. the Greeks and romans were nothing compared to the ancient Nubians or the ancient Ethiopians. See they aren't going to show any of the powerful black civilizations on tv. they are only going to show the poorer savage ones. The ancient greeks and romans were children compared to the ancient black civilizations. you just haven't heard of any of them. And alexander? lol. when he saw how big Candice of monro's army was and how many war elephants she had, he order his entire army to retreat with out even fighting.  THE GRREKS were far from a powerful they just had good buildings and stuff. when you picture ancient African races you only can picture people like the Zulus. you have not don't proper research.  the ancient Nubians conquered most of east Africa. they were a warrior race. they had waaay bigger buildings than the romans and Greeks. You have Cleary not heard of any real powerful ancient nations. The Greeks wouldn't have dared challenged the ancient Nubians. They had war elephants and rhinos for gods sake. Alexander ran from the Ethiopian queen.  

I think it's ok to stand up for your race, but you can't compare those white empires to Ancient Nubia, I'm including the Egyptians, the Ethiopians, the Cu****es and Queen Sheba with them. There's no comparison . shrugs

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Okay....sorry.

Brits fund African Rebels so they can kill other Africans and they go and steal diamonds...If Africa is less than cutting edge I dont understand why there is so much money there and The British Elite routinely visit.

I understand, there are those here who have a pseudo "my race is better than theirs" mentality in terms of historical accomplishment's but it's important to remember People of all colors existed in some complexity in EVERY nation that is historically recognized as an Empire.

As long as we remember ^that^ there should be no excuses for exclusivity.

Bye now....Im serious.

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The Xand wrote...

x-aizen-x wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Probably referring to Timbuctu( spelling). There's a book, probably several books but I've only seen one many years ago that was about ancient black empires and it mentioned that one along with others.
I did watch Shaka Zulu on PBS many years ago and it was well done. But the zulus lost to the British and the Boers who had guns.
I think it's ok to stand up for your race, but you can't compare those black empires to Ancient Greece, I'm including the Macedonians and Alexander the Great with them and the Romans. There's no comparison . shrugs.


Roman Empire
Anyone? Multiple Cultures there.

Okay...Im done.


lol omg is this far from the truth. this is exactly what I mean. On tv they only show the savage tribes like the Zulu. there is so much wrong with this I don't even know were to start. the Greeks and romans were nothing compared to the ancient Nubians or the ancient Ethiopians. See they aren't going to show any of the powerful black civilizations on tv. they are only going to show the poorer savage ones. The ancient greeks and romans were children compared to the ancient black civilizations. you just haven't heard of any of them. And alexander? lol. when he saw how big Candice of monro's army was and how many war elephants she had, he order his entire army to retreat with out even fighting.

I think it's ok to stand up for your race, but you can't compare those white empires to Ancient Nubia, I'm including the Egyptians, the Ethiopians, the Cu****es and Queen Sheba with them. There's no comparison . shrugs

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Egyptians were white yo. I don't know what period you mean since it doesn't matter overly much, but the Nubian and Ethiopian kingdoms don't really compare to the other great empires of whatever era they live in. I think Mali was a decent African kingdom though? Iunno, things work differently in Africa and they always seem to be less than cutting edge. Guess life just moves slower there because of the heat and the constant famines and civil wars setting them back.

Still, if even once muddy backwaters like Scotland, Ireland and Scandinavia can attain first world status there's no reason why African countries can't.

are you serious? did you even look them up? and how are the Egyptians white they were an African civilization. I can clearly tell how you have been raised. I really cant believe this. look them up please, before you say this. And also tell me how an ancient African civilization was white. You know, you don't even know who queen Candice is. the Nubians were one of the most powerful civilizations in the ancient world. You only say the Egyptians were white because you only see them white on tv. but they drew themselves black and were in Africa... do the math. they will never put these kingdoms on tv. Just look them up and you will see what im talking about.


just read this. http://en.wikipedia....andace_of_Meroë



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are you serious? did you even look them up? and how are the Egyptians white they were an African civilization. I can clearly tell how you have been raised. I really cant believe this. look them up please, before you say this. And also tell me how an ancient African civilization was white. You know, you don't even know who queen Candice is. the Nubians were one of the most powerful civilizations in the ancient world. You only say the Egyptians were white because you only see them white on tv. but they drew themselves black and were in Africa... do the math. they will never put these kingdoms on tv. Just look them up and you will see what im talking about.


just read this. http://en.wikipedia....andace_of_Meroë


Dude, the Egyptians weren't African. Not negroid African anyways. They weren't as white as myself either ofc. They were just a kind of brown Caucasian people. Nice middle ground and the most natural for humans. Blacks and whites are both extremes and a product of harsh environments and subsequent adaptations.

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The Xand wrote...

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are you serious? did you even look them up? and how are the Egyptians white they were an African civilization. I can clearly tell how you have been raised. I really cant believe this. look them up please, before you say this. And also tell me how an ancient African civilization was white. You know, you don't even know who queen Candice is. the Nubians were one of the most powerful civilizations in the ancient world. You only say the Egyptians were white because you only see them white on tv. but they drew themselves black and were in Africa... do the math. they will never put these kingdoms on tv. Just look them up and you will see what im talking about.


just read this. http://en.wikipedia....andace_of_Meroë


Dude, the Egyptians weren't African. Not negroid African anyways. They weren't as white as myself either ofc. They were just a kind of brown Caucasian people. Nice middle ground and the most natural for humans. Blacks and whites are both extremes and a product of harsh environments and subsequent adaptations.

Eygyptians are from the interbreeding of aryans from the Caucasus mountains and indigenous peoples. They aren't  a middle ground race. There are only three races, the rest are all interbreeds. Finally, what does this have to do with anything, as if the Eygpt is not in Africa, since I think that is what makes you African, and as if black people do not live in the Middle East. 

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Br3ad wrote...

The Xand wrote...

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are you serious? did you even look them up? and how are the Egyptians white they were an African civilization. I can clearly tell how you have been raised. I really cant believe this. look them up please, before you say this. And also tell me how an ancient African civilization was white. You know, you don't even know who queen Candice is. the Nubians were one of the most powerful civilizations in the ancient world. You only say the Egyptians were white because you only see them white on tv. but they drew themselves black and were in Africa... do the math. they will never put these kingdoms on tv. Just look them up and you will see what im talking about.


just read this. http://en.wikipedia....andace_of_Meroë


Dude, the Egyptians weren't African. Not negroid African anyways. They weren't as white as myself either ofc. They were just a kind of brown Caucasian people. Nice middle ground and the most natural for humans. Blacks and whites are both extremes and a product of harsh environments and subsequent adaptations.

Eygyptians are from the interbreeding of aryans from the Caucasus mountains and indigenous peoples. They aren't  a middle ground race. There are only three races, the rest are all interbreeds. Finally, what does this have to do with anything, as if the Eygpt is not in Africa, since I think that is what makes you African, and as if black people do not live in the Middle East. 


Okay they're a straight up somewhat tanned Caucasian race then similar to the Caucasian Sumerians and proof that not all Africans are of the sub-saharan stereotypical variety.

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Br3ad wrote...

The Xand wrote...

x-aizen-x wrote...

are you serious? did you even look them up? and how are the Egyptians white they were an African civilization. I can clearly tell how you have been raised. I really cant believe this. look them up please, before you say this. And also tell me how an ancient African civilization was white. You know, you don't even know who queen Candice is. the Nubians were one of the most powerful civilizations in the ancient world. You only say the Egyptians were white because you only see them white on tv. but they drew themselves black and were in Africa... do the math. they will never put these kingdoms on tv. Just look them up and you will see what im talking about.


just read this. http://en.wikipedia....andace_of_Meroë


Dude, the Egyptians weren't African. Not negroid African anyways. They weren't as white as myself either ofc. They were just a kind of brown Caucasian people. Nice middle ground and the most natural for humans. Blacks and whites are both extremes and a product of harsh environments and subsequent adaptations.

Eygyptians are from the interbreeding of aryans from the Caucasus mountains and indigenous peoples. They aren't  a middle ground race. There are only three races, the rest are all interbreeds. Finally, what does this have to do with anything, as if the Eygpt is not in Africa, since I think that is what makes you African, and as if black people do not live in the Middle East. 


OMG how can you think like this.
Ancient Egyptians referred to their homeland as Kmt (conventionally pronounced as Kemet). According to Cheikh Anta Diop, the Egyptians referred to themselves as "Black" people or kmt, and km was the etymological root of other words, such as Kam or Ham, which refer to Black people in Hebrew tradition.

The ONLY and I mean ONLY reason people don't want to except the ancient Egyptians as black is because of how advanced and powerful their race were. I have been to Egypt and asked the people and Arabs who are there. they told me everything. the Nubians and the Egyptians have the same drawings and same culture.
you know you juts made this up. they were in no way brown Caucasian people. they were black African people. you have only seen white Egyptians because to say they were black means to say they were a ancient black powerful race. You are just amazing to believe this. All this is, is propaganda for white people. they don't claim another race, not the Mayans the Aztecs, nobody. look up the Nubians and you will see the comparison. all the evidence say they are black. there were not  Caucasus in any way shape or form. show me were you heard this from.

OMG HAVE THE DEVS REALLY NOT CLOSED THIS YET O.o

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No, they are a somewhat not the same, less than half of their DNA is actually white, and that wasn't even the point anyone was trying to make.

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x-aizen-x wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

The Xand wrote...

x-aizen-x wrote...

are you serious? did you even look them up? and how are the Egyptians white they were an African civilization. I can clearly tell how you have been raised. I really cant believe this. look them up please, before you say this. And also tell me how an ancient African civilization was white. You know, you don't even know who queen Candice is. the Nubians were one of the most powerful civilizations in the ancient world. You only say the Egyptians were white because you only see them white on tv. but they drew themselves black and were in Africa... do the math. they will never put these kingdoms on tv. Just look them up and you will see what im talking about.


just read this. http://en.wikipedia....andace_of_Meroë


Dude, the Egyptians weren't African. Not negroid African anyways. They weren't as white as myself either ofc. They were just a kind of brown Caucasian people. Nice middle ground and the most natural for humans. Blacks and whites are both extremes and a product of harsh environments and subsequent adaptations.

Eygyptians are from the interbreeding of aryans from the Caucasus mountains and indigenous peoples. They aren't  a middle ground race. There are only three races, the rest are all interbreeds. Finally, what does this have to do with anything, as if the Eygpt is not in Africa, since I think that is what makes you African, and as if black people do not live in the Middle East. 


OMG how can you think like this.
Ancient Egyptians referred to their homeland as Kmt (conventionally pronounced as Kemet). According to Cheikh Anta Diop, the Egyptians referred to themselves as "Black" people or kmt, and km was the etymological root of other words, such as Kam or Ham, which refer to Black people in Hebrew tradition.

The ONLY and I mean ONLY reason people don't want to except the ancient Egyptians as black is because of how advanced and powerful their race were. I have been to Egypt and asked the people and Arabs who are there. they told me everything. the Nubians and the Egyptians have the same drawings and same culture.
you know you juts made this up. they were in no way brown Caucasian people. they were black African people. you have only seen white Egyptians because to say they were black means to say they were a ancient black powerful race. You are just amazing to believe this. All this is, is propaganda for white people. they don't claim another race, not the Mayans the Aztecs, nobody. look up the Nubians and you will see the comparison. all the evidence say they are black. there were not  Caucasus in any way shape or form. show me were you heard this from.

OMG HAVE THE DEVS REALLY NOT CLOSED THIS YET O.o

Eygptians are not black, they are Middle Eastern. Less than 17% of their DNA is actually black. 

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The Xand wrote...


Okay they're a straight up somewhat tanned Caucasian race then similar to the Caucasian Sumerians and proof that not all Africans are of the sub-saharan stereotypical variety.


Wether or not I actually agree with Xand the conclusion of his post is the one thing that makes this discussion relevant to the thread. 

Here:

"not all Africans are of the sub-saharan stereotypical variety"

Which is the principle reason for a wider variety options in terms of Character Creation, like the OP asked for.
Bioware has said they will do this.

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Br3ad wrote...

x-aizen-x wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

The Xand wrote...

x-aizen-x wrote...

are you serious? did you even look them up? and how are the Egyptians white they were an African civilization. I can clearly tell how you have been raised. I really cant believe this. look them up please, before you say this. And also tell me how an ancient African civilization was white. You know, you don't even know who queen Candice is. the Nubians were one of the most powerful civilizations in the ancient world. You only say the Egyptians were white because you only see them white on tv. but they drew themselves black and were in Africa... do the math. they will never put these kingdoms on tv. Just look them up and you will see what im talking about.


just read this. http://en.wikipedia....andace_of_Meroë


Dude, the Egyptians weren't African. Not negroid African anyways. They weren't as white as myself either ofc. They were just a kind of brown Caucasian people. Nice middle ground and the most natural for humans. Blacks and whites are both extremes and a product of harsh environments and subsequent adaptations.

Eygyptians are from the interbreeding of aryans from the Caucasus mountains and indigenous peoples. They aren't  a middle ground race. There are only three races, the rest are all interbreeds. Finally, what does this have to do with anything, as if the Eygpt is not in Africa, since I think that is what makes you African, and as if black people do not live in the Middle East. 


OMG how can you think like this.
Ancient Egyptians referred to their homeland as Kmt (conventionally pronounced as Kemet). According to Cheikh Anta Diop, the Egyptians referred to themselves as "Black" people or kmt, and km was the etymological root of other words, such as Kam or Ham, which refer to Black people in Hebrew tradition.

The ONLY and I mean ONLY reason people don't want to except the ancient Egyptians as black is because of how advanced and powerful their race were. I have been to Egypt and asked the people and Arabs who are there. they told me everything. the Nubians and the Egyptians have the same drawings and same culture.
you know you juts made this up. they were in no way brown Caucasian people. they were black African people. you have only seen white Egyptians because to say they were black means to say they were a ancient black powerful race. You are just amazing to believe this. All this is, is propaganda for white people. they don't claim another race, not the Mayans the Aztecs, nobody. look up the Nubians and you will see the comparison. all the evidence say they are black. there were not  Caucasus in any way shape or form. show me were you heard this from.

OMG HAVE THE DEVS REALLY NOT CLOSED THIS YET O.o

Eygptians are not black, they are Middle Eastern. Less than 17% of their DNA is actually black. 



LOL NOW your story has changed. so did you actually research or just made up some BS? ILL SAY IT AGAIN LOOK UP THE ANCIENT NUBIANS AND THEN YOU WILL SEE YOUR WRONG. I HAVE A QUESTIONS WHY DONT YOU SAY THE NUBIANS WERE WHITE. YOU DO REALIZE THEY WERE MORE POWERFUL THAN THE EGYPTIANS RIGHT. 

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When I was talking about Greeks and Romans I was talking about raw military power obviously . sheesh. I wasn't making any statements about cultural worth or worthiness. Any mod would know that.
rolls eyes. I want this thread closed anyway.

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And we are done here.

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I haven't changed my story once, but I'm glad that this thread now has all of the yelling and screaming that is so requires.