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[The Xand]

Han Shot First wrote...

Camthalon wrote...

I'd favor it if there were african analogues in the game's world, but so far there do not seem to be. I don't favor smashing the lore just to appeal to some players.

Some of the Rivaini are black.

They are said to have skin tones that range from tan to ebony. Isabela and Duncan just happened to be of the tan variety. Also the new companion Vivienne is a black woman. Her origins are unknown, but given the already established lore on Rivain, its been speculated that she might have either full or partial Rivaini ancestry.

At any rate, black people exist in Thedas.

Source on there being blacks in Rivain? They're based on Spain so would look either Moorish or Spanish, so that explains the varying skin shades. You get a lot of pretty dark skinned Moors.

And *is* Vivienne black? She looks Rivaini to me, like Isabella.

Modifié par The Xand, 15 novembre 2013 - 01:10 .

[TEWR]

The Xand wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Camthalon wrote...

I'd favor it if there were african analogues in the game's world, but so far there do not seem to be. I don't favor smashing the lore just to appeal to some players.

Some of the Rivaini are black.

They are said to have skin tones that range from tan to ebony. Isabela and Duncan just happened to be of the tan variety. Also the new companion Vivienne is a black woman. Her origins are unknown, but given the already established lore on Rivain, its been speculated that she might have either full or partial Rivaini ancestry.

At any rate, black people exist in Thedas.

Source on there being blacks in Rivain?

And *is* Vivienne black? She looks Rivaini to me, like Isabella.

Something David Gaider said long ago on the forums.

Vavoom

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 15 novembre 2013 - 01:12 .

[Luxorek]

This thread again. Jaysus...

[Xilizhra]

I'd favor it if there were african analogues in the game's world, but so far there do not seem to be. I don't favor smashing the lore just to appeal to some players.

I think Seheron's Fog Warriors could have the potential to be. As well as Rivaini, although they seem a bit more Middle Eastern/North African.

[Fast Jimmy]

For the character creator, this would be great.

Although if they made it possible to be a broodmother through the character creator, I'd be fine with that as well.

[TEWR]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

For the character creator, this would be great.

Although if they made it possible to be a broodmother through the character creator, I'd be fine with that as well.

I can just imagine the possibilities of having a Broodmother Inquisitor. GLORIOUS.

[Plaintiff]

A wider variety of skintones would be good in general. I want to give my character a tan.

"It's not in the lore" is the worst excuse I've ever heard for excluding non-white characters, and it seems like I hear it ten times a day on here. Homogenously white settings are lame as hell, and if Bioware has to change the lore to incorporate more skin tones, then that's what they should do.

But they don't have to, the dev team has no problem with people asking for more skin tones, or for an increase of non-white characters in the settng.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 15 novembre 2013 - 02:33 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

<-- dark-skinned Dalish elf supports this.


At any rate, some of the Chasind looked pretty "black" to me.

[Anthadlas]

I demand that I can play a black guy with a Jamaican accent who refuses to go into battle without a beanie hat and thumping reggae playing in the background

You know, If they have to appeal to all tastes

[Xilizhra]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

<-- dark-skinned Dalish elf supports this.


At any rate, some of the Chasind looked pretty "black" to me.

Which strikes me as a bit strange. You'd think they'd look Norse or something.

[animedreamer]

 So much wrong with this thread...

Anyway I don't know why people keep bringing this up. I have yet to see any problem with making a character look the way you want it to look, including some what Asian looking, and unless you play on consoles mods for everything under the sun will eventually come out anyway.

I've created dark skin characters who would pass as members of various real world ethnicities in pretty much all my bioware games other than Dragon Age Origins and the only reason I didn't do it there is because the people within my origin family would look vastly different from me. Clearly Bryce Cousland is a very understanding/caring man, or color blind, cause I'd think a Dark skinned daughter or son would be a dead give away to Eleanor's infidelity.

[frankf43]

Hopefully the character creator can be more ethnically diverse than it has on previous games. The problem with the previous games was that we had family, so we had to look like the family that the devs had made for us.

[Medhia Nox]

I want my albino skin tone Bioware.

Not... "pale" - I want albino. You've given me the light blue or violent eyes before... now carry through.

It's just one freakin' tint.

[animedreamer]

EntropicAngel wrote...

No.

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I wouldn't care, but it doesn't matter to me. At all. I have no interest in recreating my high cheekbones or my coarse hair.


EDIT: And I feel the need once again to point out that Isabella, with her non-high cheeckbones and especially her smooth hair, was not black. Vivienne does look black, however (and sounds black, from the two sentences I heard).

DOUBLE EDIT:

GenericEnemy wrote...

Rivain would suddenly become 20% more awesome [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]

Cooler, my friend. Needs to be 20% cooler.

Let's not do this, in the world of Thedas there is no reason such a thing should exist. The characters speak English, yes they can and do most often have various dialects, accents, and or speech patterns but the idea that one speaks "black" is or should be seen as wrong. Vivienne is from Orlai, she if anything should speak with a Orlesian accent. "Black" people assuming you are indeed refering to African American's have dialects representing of their place or origin or up bringing, a "White" person brought up in the deep south shoulds no different than a "Asian" or "Black" person brought up in the same neighborhood. 

I'm all for creating characters the way you want them to look, but this is the world of Thedas and unless they introduce a culture that is specifically mimicing "Black" culture and whatever that means to you, me or the developers I'd rather they stick to what they have shown regardless of a characters skin tone. 

You mentioned Isabela wasn't Black, there is two ways to take that, I'll go with the most direct one. She isn't "Black" because the concept which is normally applied with such a label doesn't exist as far as we know it in Thedas. There are humans, elves, dwarves, kossith, and at least one other race who's name escapes me at the moment, but amongest the humans there is no other designations other than their place of origin (Ferelden, Orlesian, Nevarren? ect, ect.)

Modifié par animedreamer, 15 novembre 2013 - 03:02 .

[Fardreamer]

Ok... I'll ask it, because no one else seems to be explaining it. But what are "black features"? We all have 2 eyes, 2 ears, and a nose. What exactly are you asking for?

[sandalisthemaker]

Fardreamer wrote...

Ok... I'll ask it, because no one else seems to be explaining it. But what are "black features"? We all have 2 eyes, 2 ears, and a nose. What exactly are you asking for?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.

[frankf43]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Fardreamer wrote...

Ok... I'll ask it, because no one else seems to be explaining it. But what are "black features"? We all have 2 eyes, 2 ears, and a nose. What exactly are you asking for?

I've asked this in the other threads that were exactly like this. I'd be surprised if you got an answer.

People avoid this question like...something that needs avoiding.

s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4323151/1/

[Br3admax]

EntropicAngel wrote...

No.

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I wouldn't care, but it doesn't matter to me. At all. I have no interest in recreating my high cheekbones or my coarse hair.

Why don't you love yourself. If you were really black, you would definitely want to play one in a video game. Otherwise, you hate yourself. 

[animedreamer]

Fardreamer wrote...

Ok... I'll ask it, because no one else seems to be explaining it. But what are "black features"? We all have 2 eyes, 2 ears, and a nose. What exactly are you asking for?

I hate talking about this, because whatever you discribe isn't always 100% inclusive, not to mention is kind of a touche issue for various reasons, usually because there was a time were as said features were made fun of or seen as inferior. To answer your questions I'll just point out the most noted and often associated features, "Darker Skin, ranging from brown to ebony skin tones, are one feature normally associated with "black" characters. Another is wide nostrils, yet some times refered to as "Wide Nose" despite the later often meaning someone who's nose bridge is wide not the nostrils, next would be lips, which usually are described as bigger, fuller lips, upper and lower, though the trait isn't always a given just like neither are the others."  Lastly extremely short curley coarse hair.  

[Medhia Nox]

@animedreamer: Why does something have to be 100% inclusive?

Am I just taking for granted that people understand that not everything always applies 100% of the time to everyone?

[Nohvarr]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Fardreamer wrote...

Ok... I'll ask it, because no one else seems to be explaining it. But what are "black features"? We all have 2 eyes, 2 ears, and a nose. What exactly are you asking for?

I've asked this in the other threads that were exactly like this. I'd be surprised if you got an answer.

People avoid this question like...something that needs avoiding.

Some exmaples