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#76
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Silfren wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

For the character creator, this would be great.

Although if they made it possible to be a broodmother through the character creator, I'd be fine with that as well.


I can just imagine the possibilities of having a Broodmother Inquisitor. GLORIOUS.


Careful.  Your Cailan is showing.

Cailan was a good man. Possibly not a good king, but then, Loghain was neither a good man nor a good king, so...

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TipsLeFedora wrote...

frankf43 wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

See, this is why these threads are poison. They always go in the weirdest f***ing directions.


All threads go in weird and wonderful directions. It's what makes the BSN fun it's so organic.


lol how long have you been here?


Since 2009. I come and go though. I can only take it in small doses, but it's a laugh when I'm here some of the tangents that threads go are just mind-blowing.

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frankf43 wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

frankf43 wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

See, this is why these threads are poison. They always go in the weirdest f***ing directions.


All threads go in weird and wonderful directions. It's what makes the BSN fun it's so organic.


lol how long have you been here?


Since 2009. I come and go though. I can only take it in small doses, but it's a laugh when I'm here some of the tangents that threads go are just mind-blowing.


Like how hair grows on black people? Personally, I feel insulted by the insinuation that we all have short hair! Who can I sue?

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Ultimashade wrote...

frankf43 wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

frankf43 wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

See, this is why these threads are poison. They always go in the weirdest f***ing directions.


All threads go in weird and wonderful directions. It's what makes the BSN fun it's so organic.


lol how long have you been here?


Since 2009. I come and go though. I can only take it in small doses, but it's a laugh when I'm here some of the tangents that threads go are just mind-blowing.


Like how hair grows on black people? Personally, I feel insulted by the insinuation that we all have short hair! Who can I sue?


I have been trying to grow my hair out for a while >.< So annoying.

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TipsLeFedora wrote...

Dreadhead warden would be fun to play....


It's doable in Dragon's Dogma.

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Ultimashade wrote...

frankf43 wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

frankf43 wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

See, this is why these threads are poison. They always go in the weirdest f***ing directions.


All threads go in weird and wonderful directions. It's what makes the BSN fun it's so organic.


lol how long have you been here?


Since 2009. I come and go though. I can only take it in small doses, but it's a laugh when I'm here some of the tangents that threads go are just mind-blowing.


Like how hair grows on black people? Personally, I feel insulted by the insinuation that we all have short hair! Who can I sue?


I agree totally the beliefs that some people hold is just astounding. I wouldn't mind if some of the most prominent people in recent history didn't have long hair.  That's why I posted the picture of Bob Marley. I mean the First Lady has shoulder length hair you can't get much more prominent than that.

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dreamgazer wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

Dreadhead warden would be fun to play....


It's doable in Dragon's Dogma.

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P-P-C Ma-ma-master Ra-ra-ce

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dreamgazer wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

Dreadhead warden would be fun to play....


It's doable in Dragon's Dogma.

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That would be so cool.

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If they do decide to introduce Africanesc-ethnicity to DA I would like them to write them into the lore as they have so far been all but a relic found here and there in previous renditions.

It's easy to do while keeping it reasonable.

i.e

Codex: The Aghabharii originate from the searing deserts in Orlais. Life is not easy for them and so they have never thrived. They are a strong people and ingenious. In order to survive in the blasted wasted they have carved caverns under the sands which transport their water and so make for themselves habitable oasis.

They occasionally trade with the Orleisians for commodities they do not posses themselves such as wool and grains. Due to their hardy nomadic nature the Aghabharii are often hired as mercenaries when war wages.

Seems simple enough to do?

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I'd love to see more varied presets in the CC.

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TipsLeFedora wrote...
P-P-C Ma-ma-master Ra-ra-ce

Dragon's Dogma isn't a PC-only release.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 15 novembre 2013 - 05:20 .


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Plaintiff wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...
P-P-C Ma-ma-master Ra-ra-ce

Dragon's Dogma isn't a PC-only release.


I know that. I was implying I am on PC and that is the reason I cannot play it. Hence the stuttering.

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@Plaintiff: Yeah, but the PC is still the Master Race.

Bow before PC!

I keep hearing about this Dragon's Dogma game.... I will have to check it out.

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Dragon's Dogma isn't a PC-only release.

It doesn't even have a PC release at all.

If a game isn't released on PC, it might as well never have existed as far as I'm concerned.

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animedreamer wrote...

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 Lastly extremely short curley coarse hair.  

Short hair is not a trait of black people. Where this came from, IDK, but it's wrong in just about every way. 


If you knew what I was trying to describe you'd know that, that kind of hair is exlcusive to people of African descent. 

Curly=/=short. 

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animedreamer wrote...

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No.

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I wouldn't care, but it doesn't matter to me. At all. I have no interest in recreating my high cheekbones or my coarse hair.


Why don't you love yourself. If you were really black, you would definitely want to play one in a video game. Otherwise, you hate yourself. 


I'm black and yet don't make that a priority in my games. I'll admit my favorite Shepards are both black in appearance though the female one has green eyes in my favorite playthru with her. Neither was my first go to shepard as I recall, my first male Shep was white, and female shep was white as well (neither were defaults, so I actively chose to make them look that way.) In Dragon Age the same deal, I have no "black" looking protagonist, and it wasn't until DA2 that I made one, but didn't like the way the rest of the family looked because of it, and subsequently quit the playthru. 

just for reference

www.dropbox.com/s/squa7eixwgzrna1/MassEffect%202012-12-20%2009-32-00-94.bmp Mass Effect 1

www.dropbox.com/s/euz0fnd12s2f53n/ME2Game%202012-12-21%2019-12-18-90.bmp Mass Effect 2

I stopped using Frags and started trying to use the end game Screen Shot savers for I think for ME3 but for some reason they either don't work or got damaged so no can show, which is especially bad because thats when my male shep looked his best, unfortunately Femsheps in ME3 look terrible no matter what you do, I think BioWare did that to make Default FemShep not memorible or beautiful.

I'm not quite sure why you responded seriously to obvious sarcasm, but okay. 

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

Vivienne looks pretty black. That seems promising.

I would say no on the African accents and the like, tho, since there is no Africa analogue in Thedas.


Well, I wouldn't say no to them giving Rivainis a more distinctive accent, cause at the moment they're essentially Fereldans. Maybe Zimbabwean or something. 

Though I have no idea how many actors they'd be able to get out of that, seeing as they only seemed to be able to find 2 French ones. :S


Afrikaner accent oh yess.

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TipsLeFedora wrote...

Dreadhead warden would be fun to play....


Hair like this.

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FreshIstay wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

Dreadhead warden would be fun to play....


Hair like this.

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We all know what happens when Japanesse tenticals appear... Woman prepare yourselfs...

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all i care about is being able to have a nice edge that killed me in m2 when i saw jacob wit one and my cc shepard couldnt have one :"C

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Ultimashade wrote...

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If you're just talking about how hair gets curly, I don't see how a black persons hair would never be able to become long on its own. Or are you telling me afros are the natural state of all black people's hair?


They really aren't. My kid brother has been growing his hair for thirteen straight years with no tampering. His hair isn't totally straight, none of my family's hair is straight, but it's past his buttocks when it hasn't been tampered with. When it gets washed it's a bit longer...and he's as black as can be.


What part of isn't 100% inclusive don't people understand? Also you give no background on the lineage of this child/person, but only say "hair isn't totally straight, no ones in my family is." genetics change based on lineage all the time social labelling often does not. if your great grand dad was Asian, but his descendants all married and had kids with Africans, are they still Asian? The genetics for asian traits is still there and likely to show up at one point or another does that however change the fact that they may appear African? This is why the subject is largely left alone, people try to nail down what is and isn't and then someone comes along and says, "Well that isn't true about my blah blah blah." as if their's is the only right version... There isn't a right or wrong  there is only a generalization, your cousins, brothers, nephews, sisters aunt, great grandma and everything inbetween can be an exception, but never the standard.

Modifié par animedreamer, 15 novembre 2013 - 06:38 .


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Medhia Nox wrote...

@Plaintiff: Yeah, but the PC is still the Master Race.

Bow before PC!

I keep hearing about this Dragon's Dogma game.... I will have to check it out.


It's rough around the edges, and could use some more work in certain places but overall I consider it a success. There's something about climbing up a Cyclops and stabbing it in the eye that proves immensely satisfying.

Now, although this thread mentions black people specifically I would really want to be able to create people from a wide range of ethnicities. I think if you had the presets show a number if different ethnicities people could use that to create their own Inquisitor. So we could cover Africans, Asians, Native Americans, Hispanics, etc.

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I'm the guy for this! My threads were popular then locked down but David Gaider said something about it on my thread and someone else said the DA:O and DA2 engine couldn't really create black people with black features because a problem with the engine or something along those lines. With the Frostbite 3 engine, we will be able to create good looking black people and I'm excited about that because I'm African-American and I like to create me and it's hard with DA games. Hopefully they'll give us good hairstyles to(fade, waves, afro, Mohawk, etc.).

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The Xand wrote...

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I'd favor it if there were african analogues in the game's world, but so far there do not seem to be. I don't favor smashing the lore just to appeal to some players.


I'm with this. I just think it would be weird seeing Chinese or African looking people in the current world of Thedas because there aren't any analogous cultures (yet). Maybe once they've introduced a more African or Oriental themed race of humans from more distant lands.

That said I'm pretty sure the character creator was comprehensive enough to create a realistic looking African. You could create characters as monstrous or as handsome as you liked so an African isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

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I'm hoping that they will have a African analogy soon like the Elder Scolls has with the Redguards, that's the way to go to expand the universe and the audience. Maybe a boat comes in with foreign humans with a foreign culture who have African features and skin color. That creates conflict with the Thedan people.

Modifié par KC_Prototype, 15 novembre 2013 - 08:19 .


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hhh89 wrote...

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there are no black people in fantasy bro


Black people exist in Rivain, according to the lore.

Rivain people are based off of Spaniards. They may have black people because of real life Spain brought Africans to Spain but I haven't seen black people in Rivain.