tetsutsuru wrote...
Those of you complaining about some items mentioned are actually confusing two qualifiers.
"Worst" power != uselessness
So why exactly is Cryo Blast one of the worst powers in the game in your opinion?
What are the four worst powers in this game?
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#101
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 09:29
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So why exactly is Cryo Blast one of the worst powers in the game in your opinion?
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#102
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 09:35
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bgsam1990 wrote...
N7didacus wrote...
None, they all serve its purpose.
#103
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 09:42
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None. Teamplayers take advantage of everything.
#104
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 09:42
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Electric Slash, Geth Turret, Sentry Turret, Carnage and Flamer.
Why? No fuking idea for the first four, but Flamer? If you come into a full lobby with that, go burn in hell with all the enemies you roasted alive, jackass... Flamer is only good for soloing, otherwise it's just too damn annoying...
The Exception to the Rule
Why? No fuking idea for the first four, but Flamer? If you come into a full lobby with that, go burn in hell with all the enemies you roasted alive, jackass... Flamer is only good for soloing, otherwise it's just too damn annoying...
The Exception to the Rule
#105
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 09:59
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Still wondering how and why some folk are taking this thread seriously.
#106
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:16
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tonnactus wrote...
On the Drell Adept its easy. The Passive. I play the Adept for Biotics Explosions, so power damage doesnt matter.MaxCrushmore wrote...
Pull is another power I feel is underrated on BSN - %75 increased BE explosion
I wish I had a way to get it on my DA or DV .. but I don't know what I'd give up for it ...
I agree that most adepts benefit very little from the passive tree, and I run several w/o .. however the Drell and batarian adepts benefit greatly from the increased power damage for their grenades.
Giving up power damage on these classes loses me more damage off my grenades than I gain for the BE with pull, and grenades are useable against every enemy in the game, where pull is only useable against enemies with health only ..
Sadly I cannot make that trade
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:18
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Pull --> it only primes and it only works on unprotected enemies... anything pull can do singularity can do better but it is still useful with certain builds just not the best power to have
Sentry Turret --> I can't remember it being a significant power whenever I used it so "forgettable"
Cryo Blast --> for the same reasons as pull but at least it debuffs enemies and reduces speed.
Normal Frag--> (not the destroyer's multi-frag) It isn't really bad but there aren't a lot of powers that deserve to be in my top 4 so...
Funnily enough I like carnage but I think the developers chose the wrong kits to put it on. Krogan battlemaster can't detonate his carnage and the flimsy vorcha soldier has to either sacrifice vorcha resilliance or fitness to get it and the battlefield soldier is just the battlefield soldier.
Sentry Turret --> I can't remember it being a significant power whenever I used it so "forgettable"
Cryo Blast --> for the same reasons as pull but at least it debuffs enemies and reduces speed.
Normal Frag--> (not the destroyer's multi-frag) It isn't really bad but there aren't a lot of powers that deserve to be in my top 4 so...
Funnily enough I like carnage but I think the developers chose the wrong kits to put it on. Krogan battlemaster can't detonate his carnage and the flimsy vorcha soldier has to either sacrifice vorcha resilliance or fitness to get it and the battlefield soldier is just the battlefield soldier.
#108
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:22
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anyone who says pull hasn't tried, the pull/reave combo with the Asari Adept
proxie mines suck, along with cluster and sticky 'nade
proxie mines suck, along with cluster and sticky 'nade
#109
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:22
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There's a lot of ignorance in this thread.
But Pull is probably one of the objectively worst powers available.
But Pull is probably one of the objectively worst powers available.
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:28
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@WNxPowedr - you may want to deploy your flame shield "Cluster nades suck" LOL
#111
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:30
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Snap freeze: For the graphic alone. I've seen snowballs that look more threatening.
Lash: I like pull better than lash for one reason - aoe. Lash you need six evolutions to get a decent power out of, pull you only need four.
Fortification: Fortification annoys me because it takes six evolutions to mitigate the debuff, and the melee buff from deactivating fortification is meh. Against most enemies, you want damage reduction if you're in melee range... and you have to dispell your defensive ability to buff melee damage. On top of that, Fort slows power use, and every class with Fort has ranged powers. By dispelling, you can use your ranged powers faster... but you get a buff to melee. It's just feels counterintuitive.
Decoy: It's pretty good if you go all in. Thing is, it doesn't work unless you take the shock evo, and it's still not great without the explode evo. It'll get agro for you when you're not fighting, but once you start shooting, the power's useless without evolutions four and six.
Lash: I like pull better than lash for one reason - aoe. Lash you need six evolutions to get a decent power out of, pull you only need four.
Fortification: Fortification annoys me because it takes six evolutions to mitigate the debuff, and the melee buff from deactivating fortification is meh. Against most enemies, you want damage reduction if you're in melee range... and you have to dispell your defensive ability to buff melee damage. On top of that, Fort slows power use, and every class with Fort has ranged powers. By dispelling, you can use your ranged powers faster... but you get a buff to melee. It's just feels counterintuitive.
Decoy: It's pretty good if you go all in. Thing is, it doesn't work unless you take the shock evo, and it's still not great without the explode evo. It'll get agro for you when you're not fighting, but once you start shooting, the power's useless without evolutions four and six.
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#112
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:35
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I don't think ive ever hit a target with cluster grenades.MaxCrushmore wrote...
@WNxPowedr - you may want to deploy your flame shield "Cluster nades suck" LOL
#113
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:38
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I usually play Gold so I'd say (for me anyway)...
1) Pull. Simply ineffective in my book, better just spam another power and use Warp ammo, on the Drell Adept just spam Reave and be a happy panda, no need to Pull then Reave to do Biotic Explosions and losing time in the process on single targets when you can just spam groups of mooks with Reave left and right. On the Asari Justicar I just use Biotic Sphere to protect myself since I play her like a sentry (tanky'ish) and sometimes protect teammates during objectives (which does at least help them during those situations).
2) Geth Turret / Sentry Turret. Those get destroyed in a second by mooks looking at it, what's the point? I usually spec out of it, except if I feel like playing on Silver, but even then I still have to constantly spam it because it keeps getting destroying the next second. If those two had more base "health" points I'd use them more often, especially on the Quarian Female Engineer. Sure you could play Geth Infiltrator, camp some place and spawn your turret and... and what, you're a sniper and you should be out of enemies' range most of the time except when doing objectives or taken by surprise. Other than that you'll be alone with your useless spawned turret, and if an enemy does come by you either have to 1) re-spawn it as you move away or 2) see it getting destroyed by said incoming enemy in just a second before said turret could do anything to start with. On the Juggernaut with the Flamethrower upgrade it can help for maybe two or three seconds before you have to spawn it again, no point, better just max Hex Shield in my book.
3) Tech Armor as a Detonator. Not sure if I have to explain why, it's just weak, only useful when a mook is about to kill a downed teammate and you need a fast stagger (that is if you have time to get close enough, better just use a weapon or some other power).
4) Sticky Grenade. I almost went with Sabotage but at least that one stuns regular mooks and can be useful on Atlases and Primes (and the Geth overall). But really, Sticky Grenade, come to think of it, is just weak and to be honest I never really notice any damage on nearby enemies (it's supposed to damage nearby enemies too, maybe it does but on Gold it feels like it's doing maybe 10 points of damage). Maybe I need to spec specifically for that but what's the point when you're an Infiltrator? On the Human Infiltrator just use Cryo Blast with Cryo ammo and spec for extra damage on frozen targets and spam that. On the Quarian Female Infiltrator... well the poor girl has both Sticky Grenade and Sabotage... maybe spec out of Sticky or just put three points in Sticky... or just play the Drell Assassin instead.
Meh, for what it's worth.
1) Pull. Simply ineffective in my book, better just spam another power and use Warp ammo, on the Drell Adept just spam Reave and be a happy panda, no need to Pull then Reave to do Biotic Explosions and losing time in the process on single targets when you can just spam groups of mooks with Reave left and right. On the Asari Justicar I just use Biotic Sphere to protect myself since I play her like a sentry (tanky'ish) and sometimes protect teammates during objectives (which does at least help them during those situations).
2) Geth Turret / Sentry Turret. Those get destroyed in a second by mooks looking at it, what's the point? I usually spec out of it, except if I feel like playing on Silver, but even then I still have to constantly spam it because it keeps getting destroying the next second. If those two had more base "health" points I'd use them more often, especially on the Quarian Female Engineer. Sure you could play Geth Infiltrator, camp some place and spawn your turret and... and what, you're a sniper and you should be out of enemies' range most of the time except when doing objectives or taken by surprise. Other than that you'll be alone with your useless spawned turret, and if an enemy does come by you either have to 1) re-spawn it as you move away or 2) see it getting destroyed by said incoming enemy in just a second before said turret could do anything to start with. On the Juggernaut with the Flamethrower upgrade it can help for maybe two or three seconds before you have to spawn it again, no point, better just max Hex Shield in my book.
3) Tech Armor as a Detonator. Not sure if I have to explain why, it's just weak, only useful when a mook is about to kill a downed teammate and you need a fast stagger (that is if you have time to get close enough, better just use a weapon or some other power).
4) Sticky Grenade. I almost went with Sabotage but at least that one stuns regular mooks and can be useful on Atlases and Primes (and the Geth overall). But really, Sticky Grenade, come to think of it, is just weak and to be honest I never really notice any damage on nearby enemies (it's supposed to damage nearby enemies too, maybe it does but on Gold it feels like it's doing maybe 10 points of damage). Maybe I need to spec specifically for that but what's the point when you're an Infiltrator? On the Human Infiltrator just use Cryo Blast with Cryo ammo and spec for extra damage on frozen targets and spam that. On the Quarian Female Infiltrator... well the poor girl has both Sticky Grenade and Sabotage... maybe spec out of Sticky or just put three points in Sticky... or just play the Drell Assassin instead.
Meh, for what it's worth.
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#114
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:40
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There's a lot of ignorance in this thread.
#115
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:41
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Sounds like a personal problem.WNxPowder wrote...
I don't think ive ever hit a target with cluster grenades.MaxCrushmore wrote...
@WNxPowedr - you may want to deploy your flame shield "Cluster nades suck" LOL
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:43
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Drellgod. Biotic charge into spawn > throw cluster nades > bye bye spawn.WNxPowder wrote...
I don't think ive ever hit a target with cluster grenades.MaxCrushmore wrote...
@WNxPowedr - you may want to deploy your flame shield "Cluster nades suck" LOL
They're a bit tricky to get the hang of at first but LEARN TO USE THEM. They're arguably one of the best nades in this game.
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:45
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thats why im so negative about it, but i don't see a lot of people using the drell vanguard or vorcha sentinalTokenusername wrote...
Sounds like a personal problem.WNxPowder wrote...
I don't think ive ever hit a target with cluster grenades.MaxCrushmore wrote...
@WNxPowedr - you may want to deploy your flame shield "Cluster nades suck" LOL
#118
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:48
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That's because they are difficult kits to master, or at least people prefer flamer on the Vorcha. There's a difference between saying, i'm not good with this power, and this power is not good.WNxPowder wrote...
thats why im so negative about it, but i don't see a lot of people using the drell vanguard or vorcha sentinalTokenusername wrote...
Sounds like a personal problem.WNxPowder wrote...
I don't think ive ever hit a target with cluster grenades.MaxCrushmore wrote...
@WNxPowedr - you may want to deploy your flame shield "Cluster nades suck" LOL
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:50
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WNxPowder wrote...
thats why im so negative about it, but i don't see a lot of people using the drell vanguard or vorcha sentinalTokenusername wrote...
Sounds like a personal problem.WNxPowder wrote...
I don't think ive ever hit a target with cluster grenades.MaxCrushmore wrote...
@WNxPowedr - you may want to deploy your flame shield "Cluster nades suck" LOL
They aren't the only kits with those nades. I've not tried out the vorcha sentinal yet, but I know the dreelguard is one of the worst kits available. Cluster gernades are its saving grace, if anything. I don't see them playing anything past silver without cluster nades.
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:51
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 10:59
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Hunter mode, tactical cloak, biotic charge and Warp
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 11:00
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Rotward wrote...
I've not tried out the vorcha sentinal yet, but I know the dreelguard is one of the worst kits available.
Lol
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 11:02
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Jaded4Chaos wrote...
FatherOfPearl wrote...
There are no bad powers, but if I had to choose...
Pull
Sentry turret
Decoy (unless Geth/Phantoms)
Submission Net (until you know how to do it effectively)
I agree with this but would replace Sentry Turret with Lash. It's personal...
Lash is actually pretty good if you go 6b.
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Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 11:04
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Seriously 6a, why would you even.Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...
Jaded4Chaos wrote...
FatherOfPearl wrote...
There are no bad powers, but if I had to choose...
Pull
Sentry turret
Decoy (unless Geth/Phantoms)
Submission Net (until you know how to do it effectively)
I agree with this but would replace Sentry Turret with Lash. It's personal...
Lash is actually pretty good if you go 6b.
#125
Posté 15 novembre 2013 - 11:06
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WNxPowder wrote...
thats why im so negative about it, but i don't see a lot of people using the drell vanguard or vorcha sentinal
If you're on Xbox I'd be more than happy to show you how destructive and awesome both those classes are.
Yes I'm serious.
