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[Br3admax]

I've never seen such passion towards five minutes of back tracking all over the Citadel.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Linkenski wrote...

 ME3 is known to have the worst sidequests ever but this one takes the cake for me.

The Hanar homeworld, AKA. partailly the homeworld to the Drell is at stake and this quest is full of bad self-referential in-jokes and sillyness all around... and better/worse yet, that Hanar isn't even written to talk like a Hanar. It says "I have just uploaded it" and "you, blah blah blah"

Whatever happened to "this one" or "these ones"?

Why are all Mass Effect 3 sidequests so redundant!?

What's the matter? You weren't moved to tears when you found the Pillars of Strength?

The Spectre had "short timer" syndrome. He was getting ready to retire when the war broke out. Kasumi was always selfish, so what. But I'll admit. The quest sucked. The Hanar were written as "big stupid jellyfish". Humans are special. Aliens suck. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Worst in the series? Or worst in gaming?

There isn't a distinction made in the OP.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 16 novembre 2013 - 06:07 .

[Oni Changas]

Linkenski wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Because... art heroism. 

It's pretty bad to see so much stuff that was hoped for in expanding the image of the galaxy was more or less completely stuffed by BW. You don't see much of anywhere.

This too. We really needed to see the whole scope of the reaper threat and not just "oh no, OUR planet is in danger! screw the others, we need THEIR forces while the Reapers burn down Thessia and Palaven, to save Earth"

Why does everyone misinterpret a call for backup as "DROP EVERYTHING AND GIVE EARTH YOU ENTIRE ARMY NOW!"? You think if a bank is robbed that the first responding officers would ask for the entire police force?

[Argentoid]

Patrick Weekes wrote the whole sidequest. He mentioned this when he stated that the salarian Spectre "Jondum Bau" was a reference to his fellow BW writer John Dombrow.

[YouKnowMyName]

Argentoid wrote...

Patrick Weekes wrote the whole sidequest. He mentioned this when he stated that the salarian Spectre "Jondum Bau" was a reference to his fellow BW writer John Dombrow.

OMG, Patrick wrote it! Now it's suddenly the best quest in the whole series! Nothing can surpass this awesome piece of writing!

Modifié par YouKnowMyName, 16 novembre 2013 - 06:55 .

[AlanC9]

StreetMagic wrote...
Thing is, I think they overemphasize how many newbs are actually going to be playing this game. It didn't get any more sales than ME2. They basically kept the same playerbase.

Having nearly the same number of players doesn't mean that they're all the same people. 64% of ME3 player never met Wrex, for intance, and only 50% of ME2 players imported a save. Though I suppose it's conceivable that a large percentage of players lose their saves.

[Reorte]

Jumping in, I just lump the fetch quests in with planet scanning in ME2 and picking up writings / minerals / medallions etc. in ME1, rather than proper quests in their own right.

As for the rest, they're not bad, some are excellent, some a mediocre distraction. It's a pity that it was a proper mission for some of the ME2 cast and just a little bit of running around the Citadel for others; fair enough to try to not make everything shooty-shooty but it left those characters a bit short.

[trenq]

Patrick's deleted article;  http://pastebin.com/ZV2QhViG
He mentions the mission under ' small things i wrote' + everything else he was part of.

Modifié par trenq, 16 novembre 2013 - 10:04 .

[YouKnowMyName]

StreetMagic wrote...

YouKnowMyName wrote...

OMG, Patrick wrote it! Now it's suddenly the best quest in the whole series! Nothing can surpass this awesome piece of writing!

Not my favorite moment either, but otherwise, he really did write a lot of the good stuff. From large to small.

I know he wrote a lot of good things. It wasn't mean as an insult to his skill as a writer. Rather, it was a reference to how certain members worship certain writers.

[Linkenski]

StreetMagic wrote...

I think some of those lines about emphasizing Earth is for newbs. New players need to be eased into the whole drama of Mass Effect, and Earth is the easiest way to do it.

I thought as much and it has always bugged me a lot.

Argentoid wrote...

Patrick Weekes wrote the whole sidequest. He mentioned this when he stated that the salarian Spectre "Jondum Bau" was a reference to his fellow BW writer John Dombrow.

It's funny because I guessed as much and I hadn't outright clarified it was him. The quest is just very patrick-y, and while I don't usually mind his sillyness it really felt out of place in this one sidequest. No wait, I lied. I don't see why everyone is always so forgiving of Patrick. The Tuchanka part hit all the right emotional cues in just about every outcome you can get and it's pretty good, but the bad-assery and silly humor put me off... and Kalros... Ugh, talk about contrived and too convenient!

EDIT: Don't mind this BS, I knew Dombrow wrote Tuchanka for the most part, I was just being forgetful.

It's not just the fact that this one sidequest was bad though, it's because ME3 has nothing but bad sidequests, but when they finally contain cinematic dialogue, it's just a load of crap.

But I couldn't help but giggle now that you mentioned Jondum Bau was made to resemble John Dombrow, just like Padok Wiks = Patrick Weekes. I love those name gags.

Modifié par Linkenski, 16 novembre 2013 - 10:25 .

[dreamgazer]

trenq wrote...

Patrick's deleted article;  http://pastebin.com/ZV2QhViG
He mentions the mission under ' small things i wrote' + everything else he was part of.

Interesting.  I didn't know Weekes was responsible for managing the Citadel Hub content. 

[Kataphrut94]

I don't see where the attitude of ME3 having the worst sidequests comes from. I'd say it had some of the best. The hanar homeworld...was not one of them.

I think what really annoys me is that you have to have bought (as in payed money for) Kasumi in order to get the best outcome. It's funny how people complained about having to pay for Javik when he was handled far better on the 'paying for extra content that doesn't make the non-bonus content look like garbage' front. Normally not being able to get the best outcome wouldn't bother me, but the version without her is awfully contrived.

For a start, the choice between the hanar homeworld and the Spectre is made via an unclear interrupt, meaning you could very well make a choice by accident. What's worse, to save the homeworld, you simply sit back and do nothing until the 'be a moron' interrupt passes. Having to take a passive response in order to make your character take a proactive action is hugely disconcerting. And the crowning turd in the waterpipe is the fact that the game acts as if you've done something horrible by sacrificing a planet to save one guy (as it should), but there's only a 10 point difference between the assets you get.

Modifié par Kataphrut94, 16 novembre 2013 - 10:56 .

[Han Shot First]

YouKnowMyName wrote...

Argentoid wrote...

Patrick Weekes wrote the whole sidequest. He mentioned this when he stated that the salarian Spectre "Jondum Bau" was a reference to his fellow BW writer John Dombrow.

OMG, Patrick wrote it! Now it's suddenly the best quest in the whole series! Nothing can surpass this awesome piece of writing!

How dare you speak ill of the great and mighty Patrick Weekes! Everyone knows Mac Walters is responsible for every unpopular feature in the series. The BSN would never lie about such important matters!!!!!1111

Next you'll be telling me Drew Kaparshyn isn't the greatest writer in the history of gaming. I'll have you know I won't stand for such blasphemy, heathen!

[Dr. Megaverse]

dreamgazer wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Linkenski wrote...

 ME3 is known to have the worst sidequests ever but this one takes the cake for me.

It is? I didn't get that memo.

I'd call Grissom Academy and Attican Traverse the best sudequests of the whole series (maybe tied with some ME2 LMs if we're counting those as sidequests).

It has some of the best and some of the worst. 

But its worst are easily on-par with many of the repetitive, disjointed side-missions in ME1.

This, honestly I don't even mind the ME1 game mechanics anymore as much as driving...

[StarcloudSWG]

 Using "This one" is a Hanar being polite according to their culture. What that Hanar diplomat was doing was the equivalent of cursing and spitting out obscenities.

I'm not surprised people dont' catch that.

Modifié par StarcloudSWG, 17 novembre 2013 - 02:02 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

ME3 has a few good missions as sidequests. I wouldn't personally label any as best though.

[dreamgazer]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

ME3 has a few good missions as sidequests. I wouldn't personally label any as best though.

Grissom would probably crack my top five.

[spirosz]

Jack is not a side quest, okay folks.

[Br3admax]

spirosz wrote...

Jack is not a side quest, okay folks.

Side quests have a point.