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[Rasofe]

StreetMagic wrote...

The thing I don't get about the ME2 plot hate is that you all actually think the plot is all that important in the first place. Like it was some crucial thing we desperately need to get on with. ME2 had a cool way of making it seem relevant, but postponing the actual threat at the same time.

The Reapers are the worst thing about Mass Effect. They seemed cool at first, but they're just glorified party crashers. The minute something like the Reapers are allowed to be unleashed, they'll destroy the setting. But it's the setting that's the only thing worth caring about in the first place. The fun is in just being some badass spacecop, gallavanting around the universe, making friends, falling in love, cracking heads, righting random wrongs. Or whatever. Kick puppies if you want. Why the hell would you want the Reapers around?

Hear Hear.
It's amazing just how much weaker impact ME3 has because it's a war story. They're a very convenient obstacle to make things like curing the genophage, Rannoch, and Cerberus a challenge, when truth be told the best things about ME3 were those same missions, and not because they had anything to do with the Reapers.
Here's hoping ME4... or whatever they call it... will be sandboxy, like ME2.

[Mr.House]

StreetMagic wrote...

The thing I don't get about the ME2 plot hate is that you all actually think the plot is all that important in the first place. Like it was some crucial thing we desperately need to get on with. ME2 had a cool way of making it seem relevant, but postponing the actual threat at the same time.

The Reapers are the worst thing about Mass Effect. They seemed cool at first, but they're just glorified party crashers. The minute something like the Reapers are allowed to be unleashed, they'll destroy the setting. But it's the setting that's the only thing worth caring about in the first place. The fun is in just being some badass spacecop, gallavanting around the universe, making friends, falling in love, cracking heads, righting random wrongs. Or whatever. Kick puppies if you want. Why the hell would you want the Reapers around?

How dare people expect the middle of a trilogy to be important instead of being a waste of time.

[Rasofe]

Mr.House wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

The thing I don't get about the ME2 plot hate is that you all actually think the plot is all that important in the first place. Like it was some crucial thing we desperately need to get on with. ME2 had a cool way of making it seem relevant, but postponing the actual threat at the same time.

The Reapers are the worst thing about Mass Effect. They seemed cool at first, but they're just glorified party crashers. The minute something like the Reapers are allowed to be unleashed, they'll destroy the setting. But it's the setting that's the only thing worth caring about in the first place. The fun is in just being some badass spacecop, gallavanting around the universe, making friends, falling in love, cracking heads, righting random wrongs. Or whatever. Kick puppies if you want. Why the hell would you want the Reapers around?

How dare people expect the middle of a trilogy to be important instead of being a waste of time.

I don't know. How do people dare expect a game to not be a waste of time? It seems like a pretty silly thing to dare, since they'll never succeed. The middle of a trilogy will be unimportant to somebody... after all, you think ME2 is a waste of time, therefore someone actually does.

I sense that you've just ended up on a slippery slope of assumption that ME3's problems are caused by ME2, got suckered in by how clever that idea sounds, and forgot that ME2 is the best game in the trilogy. Prove me wrong.

[Mr.House]

Rasofe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

The thing I don't get about the ME2 plot hate is that you all actually think the plot is all that important in the first place. Like it was some crucial thing we desperately need to get on with. ME2 had a cool way of making it seem relevant, but postponing the actual threat at the same time.

The Reapers are the worst thing about Mass Effect. They seemed cool at first, but they're just glorified party crashers. The minute something like the Reapers are allowed to be unleashed, they'll destroy the setting. But it's the setting that's the only thing worth caring about in the first place. The fun is in just being some badass spacecop, gallavanting around the universe, making friends, falling in love, cracking heads, righting random wrongs. Or whatever. Kick puppies if you want. Why the hell would you want the Reapers around?

How dare people expect the middle of a trilogy to be important instead of being a waste of time.

I don't know. How do people dare expect a game to not be a waste of time? It seems like a pretty silly thing to dare, since they'll never succeed. The middle of a trilogy will be unimportant to somebody... after all, you think ME2 is a waste of time, therefore someone actually does.

I sense that you've just ended up on a slippery slope of assumption that ME3's problems are caused by ME2, got suckered in by how clever that idea sounds, and forgot that ME2 is the best game in the trilogy. Prove me wrong.

I was complaing about ME2 before ME3 even got it's first teaser trailer let alone any info so nice try.

Modifié par Mr.House, 21 novembre 2013 - 12:53 .

[Argentoid]

StreetMagic wrote...

The thing I don't get about the ME2 plot hate is that you all actually think the plot is all that important in the first place. Like it was some crucial thing we desperately need to get on with. ME2 had a cool way of making it seem relevant, but postponing the actual threat at the same time.

The theme of Mass Effect 2 is actually good: "get people for your suicide mission". A plot is important because it's a storytelling standard that it's a good way to make the main character relate to others and change and evolve throughout the story, for example. Without it, all wee see is a bunch of meaningless static events. And that is what we see in ME2. How is this Shepard's story if Shepard doesn't grow and change. I mean, all we find is some cool people with good character arcs that go along for the ride. And.... that's it. Yeah, you can romance them, but yet, nothing "grows and changes" in Shepard. You can talk to them, and yet, the same statement given before occurs.

There's a lot of wasted potential.

I sense that you've just ended up on a slippery slope of assumption that ME3's problems are caused by ME2, got suckered in by how clever that idea sounds, and forgot that ME2 is the best game in the trilogy. Prove me wrong.

Nope. That title belongs to ME1. Plus, you should dig into the old BSN posts from 2010. You might find something.

Modifié par Argentoid, 21 novembre 2013 - 01:02 .

[Rasofe]

Mr.House wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

The thing I don't get about the ME2 plot hate is that you all actually think the plot is all that important in the first place. Like it was some crucial thing we desperately need to get on with. ME2 had a cool way of making it seem relevant, but postponing the actual threat at the same time.

The Reapers are the worst thing about Mass Effect. They seemed cool at first, but they're just glorified party crashers. The minute something like the Reapers are allowed to be unleashed, they'll destroy the setting. But it's the setting that's the only thing worth caring about in the first place. The fun is in just being some badass spacecop, gallavanting around the universe, making friends, falling in love, cracking heads, righting random wrongs. Or whatever. Kick puppies if you want. Why the hell would you want the Reapers around?

How dare people expect the middle of a trilogy to be important instead of being a waste of time.

I don't know. How do people dare expect a game to not be a waste of time? It seems like a pretty silly thing to dare, since they'll never succeed. The middle of a trilogy will be unimportant to somebody... after all, you think ME2 is a waste of time, therefore someone actually does.

I sense that you've just ended up on a slippery slope of assumption that ME3's problems are caused by ME2, got suckered in by how clever that idea sounds, and forgot that ME2 is the best game in the trilogy. Prove me wrong.

I was complaing about ME2 before ME3 even got it's first teaser trailer let alone any info so nice try.

Well, then you just have bad taste. Nice chatting.

[Mr.House]

Yes I have bad taste for not liking what you like. Ah BSN you never cease to amaze.

[Mr.House]

Most of the time spent in ME2 was on scanning planets for resources and hitting your head with a hammer going whyyyy am I doing such a boring mindless task.

[Argentoid]

Rasofe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

The thing I don't get about the ME2 plot hate is that you all actually think the plot is all that important in the first place. Like it was some crucial thing we desperately need to get on with. ME2 had a cool way of making it seem relevant, but postponing the actual threat at the same time.

The Reapers are the worst thing about Mass Effect. They seemed cool at first, but they're just glorified party crashers. The minute something like the Reapers are allowed to be unleashed, they'll destroy the setting. But it's the setting that's the only thing worth caring about in the first place. The fun is in just being some badass spacecop, gallavanting around the universe, making friends, falling in love, cracking heads, righting random wrongs. Or whatever. Kick puppies if you want. Why the hell would you want the Reapers around?

How dare people expect the middle of a trilogy to be important instead of being a waste of time.

I don't know. How do people dare expect a game to not be a waste of time? It seems like a pretty silly thing to dare, since they'll never succeed. The middle of a trilogy will be unimportant to somebody... after all, you think ME2 is a waste of time, therefore someone actually does.

I sense that you've just ended up on a slippery slope of assumption that ME3's problems are caused by ME2, got suckered in by how clever that idea sounds, and forgot that ME2 is the best game in the trilogy. Prove me wrong.

I was complaing about ME2 before ME3 even got it's first teaser trailer let alone any info so nice try.

Well, then you just have bad taste. Nice chatting.

So, all in all

"I am right, you are wrong. Goodbye."

That's some clever use of words my friend. 

Modifié par Argentoid, 21 novembre 2013 - 01:01 .

[Rasofe]

Mr.House wrote...

Yes I have bad taste for not liking what you like. Ah BSN you never cease to amaze.

That's precisely correct. You have poor taste for not liking what I like.

@Street, Mass Effect 2 is a nearly 100 - hour game, and that's if you never bother to do all the playthroughs again. Who gets a game like this and makes only one playthrough? You'd have to have no economic sense.

On the topic of scanning, probe every planet available in the galaxy once on a reasonably high peek. There'll be more than enough resources.

Modifié par Rasofe, 21 novembre 2013 - 01:08 .

[FlamingBoy]

Mr.House wrote...

Most of the time spent in ME2 was on scanning planets for resources and hitting your head with a hammer going whyyyy am I doing such a boring mindless task.

well that is just not a truthful statement.

[Rasofe]

Argentoid wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

The thing I don't get about the ME2 plot hate is that you all actually think the plot is all that important in the first place. Like it was some crucial thing we desperately need to get on with. ME2 had a cool way of making it seem relevant, but postponing the actual threat at the same time.

The Reapers are the worst thing about Mass Effect. They seemed cool at first, but they're just glorified party crashers. The minute something like the Reapers are allowed to be unleashed, they'll destroy the setting. But it's the setting that's the only thing worth caring about in the first place. The fun is in just being some badass spacecop, gallavanting around the universe, making friends, falling in love, cracking heads, righting random wrongs. Or whatever. Kick puppies if you want. Why the hell would you want the Reapers around?

How dare people expect the middle of a trilogy to be important instead of being a waste of time.

I don't know. How do people dare expect a game to not be a waste of time? It seems like a pretty silly thing to dare, since they'll never succeed. The middle of a trilogy will be unimportant to somebody... after all, you think ME2 is a waste of time, therefore someone actually does.

I sense that you've just ended up on a slippery slope of assumption that ME3's problems are caused by ME2, got suckered in by how clever that idea sounds, and forgot that ME2 is the best game in the trilogy. Prove me wrong.

I was complaing about ME2 before ME3 even got it's first teaser trailer let alone any info so nice try.

Well, then you just have bad taste. Nice chatting.

So, all in all

"I am right, you are wrong. Goodbye."

That's some clever use of words my friend. 

Sorry, I'm supposed to be embarassed about being right?
This isn't a fiscal policy or a metaphysical idea we're discussing. There's a unique correct answer here.

[Argentoid]

Rasofe wrote...
Sorry, I'm supposed to be embarassed about being right?
This isn't a fiscal policy or a metaphysical idea we're discussing. There's a unique correct answer here.

You have yet to prove your argument, mister. You should be embarassed for your denial and lack of exposure.

Modifié par Argentoid, 21 novembre 2013 - 01:19 .

[dreamgazer]

Rasofe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Yes I have bad taste for not liking what you like. Ah BSN you never cease to amaze.

That's precisely correct. You have poor taste for not liking what I like.

(laughs)

[Ryzaki]

Mr.House wrote...

Yes I have bad taste for not liking what you like. Ah BSN you never cease to amaze.

No you have bad taste for having a Yukari avatar. Bleh.

[Rasofe]

Argentoid wrote...

Rasofe wrote...
Sorry, I'm supposed to be embarassed about being right?
This isn't a fiscal policy or a metaphysical idea we're discussing. There's a unique correct answer here.

You have yet to prove your argument, mister. You should be embarassed for your denial and lack of exposure.

Proof on the internet? Are you serious?
It's so easy for some people to sit down at a keyboard and instantly lose all good judgement, it seems.

[Mr.House]

FlamingBoy wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Most of the time spent in ME2 was on scanning planets for resources and hitting your head with a hammer going whyyyy am I doing such a boring mindless task.

well that is just not a truthful statement.

Yes it is. If you just do all the main missions and LMs you will not even reach 15 hours. Scaning and probing for resources(zzzzzzz) and to find pop a mole side missions are the bulk, just like the bulk of ME was exploring planets with the Mako. I'll take exploring with the Mako with amazing skyboxes over mindless scanning.

[Mr.House]

Ryzaki wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Yes I have bad taste for not liking what you like. Ah BSN you never cease to amaze.

No you have bad taste for having a Yukari avatar. Bleh.

Well I wanted to have a Naoto one but there's already enoguh Naoto, so I went with the second best.

[Ryzaki]

Yeah just got finished replaying ME1. The mako is fun as hell even if it bounces at the slightest breeze.

**** Thresher Maws though. ****ing instant kills.