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[SilJeff]

My question is this, before Mass Effect 3, what was considered to be the most controversial/hated thing in Mass Effect here on BSN?

Sorry if this is considered off topic, I'm just really curious. I wasn't around back then

[RatThing]

I don't know if it was controversial, but I always hated Shepards death and his resurrection by Cerberus. It served no purpose and it overstated Shepards status making him some kind of space jesus. Plus the fact that I did not want to work for Cerberus. For me, this was far worse than the ending.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Renegade vs Paragon.

That's about it. Also, cerberus fanatics vs alliance fanatics/alien fanatics/anti-human fanatics. Those 3 on 1 wars took up a lot of space.

[GimmeDaGun]

As nitpicky as ME fans are, it's pretty hard to find anything what did not get its own share of hatred or was not a subject of controversy on the bsn.

[RogueBot]

There are a few things I recall. For example, the human reaper was generally considered silly, Harbinger was seen as a let-down after Sovereign, and some people felt ME was being casualized for non-RPG crowds.

Nothing really compares to the ending, though. There were always complaints, but this place was a lot more positive back then.

Modifié par RogueBot, 17 novembre 2013 - 09:14 .

[SilJeff]

RogueBot wrote...

There were always complaints, but this place was a lot more positive back then.

I always hate myself for not knowing about ME back then. I wish I could have seen BSN back when it was positive. Oh well, still better to have found this great series in February 2011 (though I didn't join this site until after ME3 came out) than to have never found it

Modifié par SilJeff, 17 novembre 2013 - 09:32 .

[Ruadh]

I'm gonna go with 'The geth are people too' or 'The Reapers making a Reaper is dumb'

In truth, we all miss the 'How awesome is Jacob' threads. Hot damn that guy was likable.

[Linkenski]

Probably the stuff shown in the final mission of ME2 and the Human Reaper.

If the ending of ME3 hadn't been so bad, I had actually hoped more people would give BW flack on the dialogue system... or lack thereof. Everyone seems to be pretty accepting of the dumbed down dialogue wheel and I think Bioware is just like "Okay, let's run with that in ME4 then!"

Interrupts are misused, and choices don't appear where they often feel like they should, and there's no neutral option aside from when Liara visits Shepard in his cabin... and more than half of the normandy dialogue is non-cinematic and Shepard even talks to them out of Dialogue.

ME2 had some dumbed down things too and there was autodialogue in combat, which was already a bit alienating, but I could cope with it. In ME3 it ruined my playthrough. I just... did not enjoy the game very much.

[YouKnowMyName]

SilJeff wrote...

RogueBot wrote...

There were always complaints, but this place was a lot more positive back then.

I always hate myself for not knowing about ME back then. I wish I could have seen BSN back when it was positive. Oh well, still better to have found this great series in February 2011 (though I didn't join this site until after ME3 came out) than to have never found it

Actually, there was a period early 2010, when ME2 was released, when there also was a lot of negativity on this forum. Not as extreme as with ME3, but still...

You should have seen the pissed off ME1 players claiming ME2 was appealing to "the common or CoD crowd", and calling people who liked ME2 stupid.

After a while, things calmed down, until ME3 was released...

ME2 suffered many attacks back in the day. That was before ME3 came along though.



As for the most hated thing before ME3. Well, I think The Human Reaper. I remember all the complaints about that.

Modifié par YouKnowMyName, 17 novembre 2013 - 01:12 .

[YouKnowMyName]

Sorry for double post.

Modifié par YouKnowMyName, 17 novembre 2013 - 01:13 .

[BaladasDemnevanni]

A number of different things, mostly relating to ME2.

The Human Reaper.
Teaming up with Cerberus.
Inventory System
Leveling System
Shepard's death

Most of these things weren't an issue for me, especially since ME1 brought its own share of bad ideas to the table.

[Daemul]

I was a lurker back then, but I remember the huge discussions about Saving vs Destroying the Collector Base which went on. I also remember the massive complaints about Biotics being nerfed because of protection, those were fun. Some people complained about ME2 being a date simulator because far too many romances were added to the series.

The biggest I think was about the atrocious Human Reaper and the lack of a focused plot. This bothered people so much that many said they wouldn't buy ME3 because it was going to be a massive disaster since it would have to do the job ME2 neglected to do on top of its own. 

They weren't the only ones though, many posters on NeoGAF, after the hype had died down, tore into ME2, someone even emailed Drew to complain about how awful the plot was and actually got a reply back  . I'll try to find that thread again. Many outright predicted that the ending of ME3 would most likely suck, they had seen the pattern with many other games before, but I still think it shocked them when they turned out to be correct.

[Hjklop]

This place has always been a den of negativity, but there was never anything as unifyingly bad as the ending before. Sure there were arguments about the various topics others have mentioned, but I don't remember an explosion quite like the one the ending caused.

[Killdren88]

Negativity like this is always a constant with RPGs. You give people the ability to shape or forge the direction the story will go and that leads to an even larger debate and the anger and cynicism only grows.

[Mcfly616]

Yes, it's nearly 2 years since ME3's release. And the ending is still the most common argument/rage thread seen on a daily basis. Proof that some people can't move on. If you were still wallowing in your sorrow 2 yrs after a bad break-up, some might say you have serious attachment issues. I'm not sure what that same problem would be considered in regards to a videogame. Probably even more serious though.


Anyways, On-topic:

The Mako
Cluttered inventory system
Project Lazarus
Harbingers trolling
ME1 characters "cameos"
Butchered power attributes system
Planet scanning
Linear shooter
Nonexistent inventory system
Daddy Issues
Thermal Clips
Human Reaper Fetus (Terminator)
Zero progress made



(I'm sure I've missed some. There was a period of time between my 2 accounts where I wasn't on the boards. From what I remember, the negativity always outweighed the positivity. Even before ME3.)

[AlanC9]

Don't forget ass shots.

[Kunari801]

SilJeff wrote...

My question is this, before Mass Effect 3, what was considered to be the most controversial/hated thing in Mass Effect here on BSN?

Sorry if this is considered off topic, I'm just really curious. I wasn't around back then

The MAKO.   

Personally I liked the MAKO, but many hated it.  

Modifié par Kunari801, 17 novembre 2013 - 06:53 .

[Dr. Megaverse]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yes, it's nearly 2 years since ME3's release. And the ending is still the most common argument/rage thread seen on a daily basis. Proof that some people can't move on. If you were still wallowing in your sorrow 2 yrs after a bad break-up, some might say you have serious attachment issues. I'm not sure what that same problem would be considered in regards to a videogame. Probably even more serious though.


Anyways, On-topic:

The Mako
Cluttered inventory system
Project Lazarus
Harbingers trolling
ME1 characters "cameos"
Butchered power attributes system
Planet scanning
Linear shooter
Nonexistent inventory system
Daddy Issues
Thermal Clips
Human Reaper Fetus (Terminator)
Zero progress made



(I'm sure I've missed some. There was a period of time between my 2 accounts where I wasn't on the boards. From what I remember, the negativity always outweighed the positivity. Even before ME3.)

Overheart was teh bestest!  (Seriously I actually liked it more )

[ImaginaryMatter]

Smudboy?

[SwobyJ]

Human-Reaper. God, the threads.

[Mcfly616]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

Smudboy?

Move along. Nothing to see here....