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[YouKnowMyName]

So, after having read a discussion between two people in the ME3 story forum, which suddenly involved asperger, I wish to write a little about it.

While I am sure the debate wasn't mean offensive, I still take some offense to it, since I have asperger myself, and some of the statements made simply aren't true of everyone with aspergers.

The bolded parts are quoted from parts of the discussion relating to aspergers;

1: I'm not accusing you of having Asperger's, but this might come off like it..

2: Yeah, that's totally not an incredibly offensive way to start off a difference of opinion.

1: At least you were offended. Now I know you're OK.

This conversation over me here implies that all aspergers are apathetical being who don't care about others needs or their emotions. This is not entirely true. While it is true that some aspergerers are like this, there also exists those of us able to feel empathy and emotion with others. I am like this. I have not always been able to understand others, but I can feel empathy with a suffering human, and I can see when they are sad and when they are happy.

We are not all egoistical people who don't care about others, but we do prioritize our own needs sometimes, just like the rest of you. Society teaches a lot of wrong things, not only about aspergerers, but about syndromes in general.

We are not monsters, or people you should pity, because we do have our own talents as well, just like the rest of you.

Just like the rest of you, we all have different personalities, interests, tastets etc. We lack the social skill, or at least, many of us do, but that just comes with this syndrome. We are not all humour-less either.

Nor are we all menatally insane or something. And the syndrome is not a disease. Only ignorance can lead to that conclusion.

As said, I am sure the one's discussing didn't mean it like that, but I take some offense to it, and therefore I post it here. I say this with all respect for the rest of you.

I do not like to bring this subject up, but then I feel like this, I just have to do it, to clear up some misunderstanding about this syndrome.

Thank you for reading, if you bothered.

Modifié par YouKnowMyName, 17 novembre 2013 - 01:43 .

[Isichar]

The comments made were pretty rude and inconsiderate. I respect that your trying to at least educate people a bit on the subject.

Things like that personally get on my nerves too. I hate when people throw labels around as insults that really objectively should not be insulting, really all it does is show their own ignorance.

Anyways I find it interesting how the brain can fail to grasp some things and yet excel so well at others. Kim Peek is an interesting case to read up on for somebody who never developed social skills but has other abilities that far surpass what the average human is capable of.

Modifié par Isichar, 17 novembre 2013 - 02:02 .

[YouKnowMyName]

Isichar wrote...

The comments made were pretty rude and inconsiderate. I respect that your trying to at least educate people a bit on the subject.

Things like that personally get on my nerves too. I hate when people throw labels around as insults that really objectively should not be insulting, really all it does is show their own ignorance.

Anyways I find it interesting how the brain can fail to grasp some things and yet excel so well at others. Kim Peek is an interesting case to read up on for somebody who never developed social skills but has other abilities that far surpass what the average human is capable of.

Thanks for understanding. I was not involved in the discussion. It is two other people talking with eachother.

It is nice to see at least one agree. And, yes, syndromes make us lack in certain aspects, but excel in others. But I think it kind of is like that for non-syndrome humans too. Just not so extreme.

Modifié par YouKnowMyName, 17 novembre 2013 - 03:00 .

[Isichar]

YouKnowMyName wrote...

It is nice to see at least one agree. And, yes, syndromes make us lack in certain aspects, but excel in others. But I think it kind of is like that for non-syndrome humans too. Just not so extreme.

Absolutely, I think the world would be an incredibly dull place if all our biology was the exact same.

Anyways I think its all just a fundemental lack of understanding for the word itself combined with negative connotations people like to stick on syndromes regarding social skills. If you actually believed that an inability to communicate normally made a person uncaring then you would pretty much be calling a mute a soulless husk lol.

Modifié par Isichar, 17 novembre 2013 - 03:36 .

[YouKnowMyName]

Well, no matter what, I think there will be less ignorance regarding this in the future. As we mature as a speices, we begin to accept other people, their personalities, and their viewpoints, more and more. It will still be a long time before humanity can be considered a "mature" race I think, but we're getting there.

Note: Just because humanity as a whole isn't mature, doesn't mean there can't be individual humans who are. So, this was not intended as an insult to anyone.

[Arcian]

Aspergers is not a diagnosis taken seriously by many because anti-social douchebags tends to use it to justify their doucheness. Besides that, it covers symptoms that could very well describe other, less diffuse types of diagnoses.

I do disagree with you that the autistic spectrum is a healthy state of being. Aspergers is the mild form of it, so it's not nearly as disruptive as the more severe version that two of my siblings on my father's side has. Due to my experiences with my siblings, I personally view the entire autistic spectrum as just another genetic disease to be systematically eradicated from the human gene pool through genetic engineering. They have been unable to live full lives because of their disease, and I'm working part-time as an assistant to an autistic boy with down's syndrome who will never be able to live a full life because of his. This kid is like my little brother, but I cannot in good conscience or from a perspective of logic and reason call his or my siblings diseases healthy states of being. They are chronically sick, dealt a very unfortunate genetic card at birth.

While some people hate those on the autistic spectrum, those who are born on it are just unfortunate. That's what it all comes down to. They have a neurological disruption that makes their lives more difficult to certain degrees, no different than MS or any neurological disease. What I loathe is to see people, diseased or not, glorify and abuse these autism diagnoses to justify bad behaviour and/or to belong somewhere because they lack the social skills to fit in somewhere else.

It is an insult to the sick to hide behind a disease they did not deserve to be born with.

[YouKnowMyName]

Arcian wrote...

Aspergers is not a diagnosis taken seriously by many because anti-social douchebags tends to use it to justify their doucheness. Besides that, it covers symptoms that could very well describe other, less diffuse types of diagnoses.

I do disagree with you that the autistic spectrum is a healthy state of being. Aspergers is the mild form of it, so it's not nearly as disruptive as the more severe version that two of my siblings on my father's side has. Due to my experiences with my siblings, I personally view the entire autistic spectrum as just another genetic disease to be systematically eradicated from the human gene pool through genetic engineering. They have been unable to live full lives because of their disease, and I'm working part-time as an assistant to an autistic boy with down's syndrome who will never be able to live a full life because of his. This kid is like my little brother, but I cannot in good conscience or from a perspective of logic and reason call his or my siblings diseases healthy states of being. They are chronically sick, dealt a very unfortunate genetic card at birth.

While some people hate those on the autistic spectrum, those who are born on it are just unfortunate. That's what it all comes down to. They have a neurological disruption that makes their lives more difficult to certain degrees, no different than MS or any neurological disease. What I loathe is to see people, diseased or not, glorify and abuse these autism diagnoses to justify bad behaviour and/or to belong somewhere because they lack the social skills to fit in somewhere else.

It is an insult to the sick to hide behind a disease they did not deserve to be born with 
.

I do not agree, but it is understandable. Your opinion does not stem from ignorance, but from personal experience, and empathy with people who suffer. Therefore it is understandable.

Modifié par YouKnowMyName, 17 novembre 2013 - 06:50 .