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[Plaintiff]

Br3ad wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Considering Dragon Age is still primarily heteronormative in its presentation of sexuality in Thedas, I fully expect that the tastes of female qunari in general run towards male qunari.

Considering that most people in real life are heterosexual primarily, I don't see a problem with this.

Did I say there was a problem? No, I didn't. You're just making things up. Again.

Considering that Thedas is a fantasy world, I don't see how any aspect of "real life" is even remotely relevent.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 18 novembre 2013 - 01:47 .

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

The game is irrelevant.

Yeah, it's become overwhelmingly obvious that you feel this way.

[Br3admax]

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Considering Dragon Age is still primarily heteronormative in its presentation of sexuality in Thedas, I fully expect that the tastes of female qunari in general run towards male qunari.

Considering that most people in real life are heterosexual primarily, I don't see a problem with this.

Did I say there was a problem? No, you're just making things up. Again.

Considering that Thedas is a fantasy world, I don't see how any aspect of "real life" is even remotely relevent.

Where did I say that you have a problem? But you've pretty much admitted at this point, so I really don't have to. 

[Hellion Rex]

hhh89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

What Xil wants is for them to call the qunari PC the Tal-Vashoth PC. Unfortunate for Xil, the rights of in game characters mean nothing to the devs and they can call them what they wish. The race is also called Qunari, so it will be the Qunari Inquisitor.

Whatever, I do not give a hoot what "Xil calls them". The PC still starts off at least as a Tal-Vashoth Qunari, right?

He'll not be a member of the Qun, yes.

Thank you. That is all I wished to know.

[Spectre slayer]

hhh89 wrote...

@Spectre slayer: Gaider didn't said that there are going to be more than 4 LI. He stated that if there are more they'll not be all bisexuals/playersexuals, since they main reason they were in DA2 was because with 4 LI there weren't other way to provide multiple choices for everyone.
There's still the chance there'll be 4 LI. Nothing is certain. Only the Qun is.

In one of the links he said his preference is to make fewer LI companions and ideally he wants 3 of them, so i think it's very unlikely we will be getting more than 4 romancable companions and not LI's which is what I meant.

Since JP said that bioware wants to give us more options, I think it's a safe bet we will be getting some NPC'S as LI to give us more options like in ME3 so that they could at least try to make as many players as they can happy.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 18 novembre 2013 - 01:49 .

[General TSAR]

David7204 wrote...

The game is irrelevant. What's relevant is someone claiming a 'militant and collectivized' society must automatically deem sex worthless unless it leads to children. That's simply not true in the slightest.

"Perhaps your skull was cracked worse than mother thought."

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Considering Dragon Age is still primarily heteronormative in its presentation of sexuality in Thedas, I fully expect that the tastes of female qunari in general run towards male qunari.

Considering that most people in real life are heterosexual primarily, I don't see a problem with this.

Did I say there was a problem? No, you're just making things up. Again.

Considering that Thedas is a fantasy world, I don't see how any aspect of "real life" is even remotely relevent.

What's he making up, that the majority of people IRL are straight? Do you disagree?

Considering that Thedas is in a game that is being sold to the people IRL who are straight and probably prefer straight romances over gay romances, then I'd say yes, it's very relevant.

[Siegdrifa]

eluvianix wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

What Xil wants is for them to call the qunari PC the Tal-Vashoth PC. Unfortunate for Xil, the rights of in game characters mean nothing to the devs and they can call them what they wish. The race is also called Qunari, so it will be the Qunari Inquisitor.

Whatever, I do not give a hoot what "Xil calls them". The PC still starts off at least as a Tal-Vashoth Qunari, right?

Sorry to bother you but i missed something and i would be gratefull if someone could explain it to me.

What's the difference between Tal Vashoth and Qunari ?
I did not play my dragon age games since nearly 2 years.

[Hellion Rex]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Considering Dragon Age is still primarily heteronormative in its presentation of sexuality in Thedas, I fully expect that the tastes of female qunari in general run towards male qunari.

Considering that most people in real life are heterosexual primarily, I don't see a problem with this.

Did I say there was a problem? No, you're just making things up. Again.

Considering that Thedas is a fantasy world, I don't see how any aspect of "real life" is even remotely relevent.

What's he making up, that the majority of people IRL are straight? Do you disagree?

Considering that Thedas is in a game that is being sold to the people IRL who are straight and probably prefer straight romances over gay romances, then I'd say yes, it's very relevant.

I know you probably did not mean it, but that bolded wording came off weird. You might mean, "sold to the people who are mostly straight IRL.

[Xilizhra]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Considering Dragon Age is still primarily heteronormative in its presentation of sexuality in Thedas, I fully expect that the tastes of female qunari in general run towards male qunari.

Considering that most people in real life are heterosexual primarily, I don't see a problem with this.

Did I say there was a problem? No, you're just making things up. Again.

Considering that Thedas is a fantasy world, I don't see how any aspect of "real life" is even remotely relevent.

What's he making up, that the majority of people IRL are straight? Do you disagree?

Considering that Thedas is in a game that is being sold to the people IRL who are straight and probably prefer straight romances over gay romances, then I'd say yes, it's very relevant.

Making up some kind of problem. And it's being sold to everyone, not just straight people.

[Plaintiff]

Br3ad wrote...
Where did I say that you have a problem?

When someone says "I don't see a problem", that implies that a problem has been brought up to be addressed. If you didn't think I was asserting the existence of a problem, then why did you feel the need to comment?

But you've pretty much admitted at this point,

In your imagination, maybe

Modifié par BioWareMod03, 18 novembre 2013 - 05:26 .

[Br3admax]

Siegdrifa wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

What Xil wants is for them to call the qunari PC the Tal-Vashoth PC. Unfortunate for Xil, the rights of in game characters mean nothing to the devs and they can call them what they wish. The race is also called Qunari, so it will be the Qunari Inquisitor.

Whatever, I do not give a hoot what "Xil calls them". The PC still starts off at least as a Tal-Vashoth Qunari, right?

Sorry to bother you but i missed something and i would be gratefull if someone could explain it to me.

What's the difference between Tal Vashoth and Qunari ?
I did not play my dragon age games since nearly 2 years.

Tal-Vashoth don't follow the Qun. They have either left it or are born out of it but are educated by those who had ancestry in it. All others are Bas, things. 

[Hellion Rex]

Siegdrifa wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

What Xil wants is for them to call the qunari PC the Tal-Vashoth PC. Unfortunate for Xil, the rights of in game characters mean nothing to the devs and they can call them what they wish. The race is also called Qunari, so it will be the Qunari Inquisitor.

Whatever, I do not give a hoot what "Xil calls them". The PC still starts off at least as a Tal-Vashoth Qunari, right?

Sorry to bother you but i missed something and i would be gratefull if someone could explain it to me.

What's the difference between Tal Vashoth and Qunari ?
I did not play my dragon age games since nearly 2 years.

Tal-Vashoth are those who previously followed the Qun (horned people or converts) and have since abandoned it to do whatever they like. Iron Bull is one such person.

Edit: 'd. Curse you, Brad!

Modifié par eluvianix, 18 novembre 2013 - 01:53 .

[The Elder King]

@Spectre slayer: I was talking about LI in general, not necessarily companions.

[Plaintiff]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
What's he making up, that the majority of people IRL are straight? Do you disagree?

Okay, at this point I have to assume you're being deliberately obtuse. There's no other possible explanation.

Considering that Thedas is in a game that is being sold to the people IRL who are straight and probably prefer straight romances over gay romances, then I'd say yes, it's very relevant.

Wow.

[Hellion Rex]

@Plaintiff and @Brad, can we drop it, and get back to the OT?

[Br3admax]

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...
Where did I say that you have a problem?

Jesus Christ, take a reading comprehension class.

When someone says "I don't see a problem", that implies that a problem has been brought up to be addressed. If you didn't think I was asserting the existence of a problem, then why did you feel the need to comment?

No it doesn't. I'm making a general statement. People do that sometimes, Plantiff did you know? Did you know that everyone isn't out to get you? Did you know that most people don't even care? Maybe I'm just responding. Like a normal person would, 'cause guess what: nomral people don't try to antagonize. Can we just have a conversation? It would be really nice if we could all just act mature. Let's do that, okay?

But you've pretty much admitted at this point,

In your imagination, maybe

Your responses act like you want someone to have conflict with. Keep searching. 

Modifié par Br3ad, 18 novembre 2013 - 01:56 .

[JerZey CJ]

Siegdrifa wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

What Xil wants is for them to call the qunari PC the Tal-Vashoth PC. Unfortunate for Xil, the rights of in game characters mean nothing to the devs and they can call them what they wish. The race is also called Qunari, so it will be the Qunari Inquisitor.

Whatever, I do not give a hoot what "Xil calls them". The PC still starts off at least as a Tal-Vashoth Qunari, right?

Sorry to bother you but i missed something and i would be gratefull if someone could explain it to me.

What's the difference between Tal Vashoth and Qunari ?
I did not play my dragon age games since nearly 2 years.

Qunari = Those who follow the Qun
Tal-Vashoth(True Gray Ones) = Those who have left the Qun and actively oppose it
Vasoth(Gray Ones) = Those who have left the Qun and do not actively oppose it.

[Br3admax]

eluvianix wrote...

@Plaintiff and @Brad, can we drop it, and get back to the OT?

I'm not being confrontational. And it's supposed to be a leet 3, like Bread. 

[Hellion Rex]

Br3ad wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

@Plaintiff and @Brad, can we drop it, and get back to the OT?

I'm not being confrontational. And it's supposed to be a leet 3, like Bread. 

Sorry bout the name, I always read "Brad" instead of "Br3ad"

[Rosey]

Siegdrifa wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

What Xil wants is for them to call the qunari PC the Tal-Vashoth PC. Unfortunate for Xil, the rights of in game characters mean nothing to the devs and they can call them what they wish. The race is also called Qunari, so it will be the Qunari Inquisitor.

Whatever, I do not give a hoot what "Xil calls them". The PC still starts off at least as a Tal-Vashoth Qunari, right?

Sorry to bother you but i missed something and i would be gratefull if someone could explain it to me.

What's the difference between Tal Vashoth and Qunari ?
I did not play my dragon age games since nearly 2 years.

A Tal'Vashoth is an ex follower of The Qun. No one in Thedas who isn't atleast somewhat fluent in The Qun, follower or not, are going to know to make the distinction.

Example: Random City Elf A is from Denerim and has never been outside the city. He meets a Tal'Vashoth. They look Qunari to them, so they'd call'm a Qunari unless corrected. Random City Elf B is from Seharon, but married into a family in Antiva. She meets a Tal'Vashoth, and having at least general idea of how the Qun works can figure out that this particular Qunari is Tal'Vashoth.

Modifié par Gilliy, 18 novembre 2013 - 02:01 .

[Siegdrifa]

Br3ad wrote...

Siegdrifa wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

What Xil wants is for them to call the qunari PC the Tal-Vashoth PC. Unfortunate for Xil, the rights of in game characters mean nothing to the devs and they can call them what they wish. The race is also called Qunari, so it will be the Qunari Inquisitor.

Whatever, I do not give a hoot what "Xil calls them". The PC still starts off at least as a Tal-Vashoth Qunari, right?

Sorry to bother you but i missed something and i would be gratefull if someone could explain it to me.

What's the difference between Tal Vashoth and Qunari ?
I did not play my dragon age games since nearly 2 years.

Tal-Vashoth don't follow the Qun. They have either left it or are born out of it but are educated by those who had ancestry in it. All others are Bas, things. 

Thank you Br3ad and Eluvianix.
So in the end i didn't missed anything, i saw some other post talking about different race for qunary and everything got mixed in my mind.

I care only to try a big tall horned woman as PC.  : )

Edit :
I'm too slow, thanks to all other who answered me so quicly  : )

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 18 novembre 2013 - 02:01 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

The game is irrelevant. What's relevant is someone claiming a 'militant and collectivized' society must automatically deem sex worthless unless it leads to children. That's simply not true in the slightest.

The Soviets under Stalin believed in procreation for the expressed means of creating a larger population base to draw on for industrial and military purposes.

The ****s believed in procreation for the expressed purpose of expanding Aryan genes and increasing the pool of soldiers for the Whermacht to draw upon and create the Aryan super-state. Procreation for non-Aryans was actively discouraged to prevent muddling of the Aryan gene pool, so much so that **** Germany was considered ahead of its time in contraception, actually paying non-Aryan citizens who married to wrap it on their wedding night.

Imperial Japan in the Second World War actively encouraged women to have as many children as possible to serve as the future of the military and the divine Emperor during the Second World War. Propaganda went so far as to say that the most powerful weapon in the IJM was the womb.

The ChiComs under Mao believed in procreation for the expressed purpose of creating a massive wave of reservist soldiers in their army.

The North Koreans have expressly discouraged procreation unless it is means of service to the state (which is ironic considering that they are huge contributors to sex trafficking all across the world).

It seems to hold true for the vast majority of militant and collectivist societies of the past century.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 18 novembre 2013 - 03:01 .

[Xilizhra]

It seems to hold true for the vast majority of militant and collectivist societies of the past century.

That wasn't what was said, but saying that sex is worthless unless it leads to children; that's not the same as lauding procreation.

[The Hierophant]

This thread?

Will the slayer of the once Immortal Nudity thread end this one?