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[Plaintiff]

Br3ad wrote...
No it doesn't. I'm making a general statement. People do that sometimes, Plantiff did you know?

Did you know that words have meaning, and the language you use affects how your points will be perceived?

Did you know that everyone isn't out to get you?

I never suspected this was the case. I think most people are just thoughtless toolbags.

Did you know that most people don't even care?

Yes, and that's exactly the problem. Thank you for confirming it for me.

Maybe I'm just responding. Like a normal person would, 'cause guess what: nomral people don't try to antagonize. Can we just have a conversation? It would be really nice if we could all just act mature. Let's do that, okay?

Given our past interactions, what ever could have led you to believe I'd welcome a response from you?

This is me, saying with as much maturity as I can muster, that I'm not interested in any conversation with you.

Your responses act like you want someone to have conflict with. Keep searching.

You're the one who sought out an interaction with me, remember? It was just a couple of pages ago.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Siegdrifa wrote...

I care only to try a big tall horned woman as PC.  : )

I wouldn't get my hopes up, judging by the artwork the fem Qunari seem to have the normal female body model (height and physique) + horns. 

Modifié par The Woldan , 18 novembre 2013 - 02:05 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Xilizhra wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Considering Dragon Age is still primarily heteronormative in its presentation of sexuality in Thedas, I fully expect that the tastes of female qunari in general run towards male qunari.

Considering that most people in real life are heterosexual primarily, I don't see a problem with this.

Did I say there was a problem? No, you're just making things up. Again.

Considering that Thedas is a fantasy world, I don't see how any aspect of "real life" is even remotely relevent.

What's he making up, that the majority of people IRL are straight? Do you disagree?

Considering that Thedas is in a game that is being sold to the people IRL who are straight and probably prefer straight romances over gay romances, then I'd say yes, it's very relevant.

Making up some kind of problem. And it's being sold to everyone, not just straight people.

I'm not seeing any problem being made up. Care to name it?

And the vast majority of people who will end up buying the game will be straight (due to the fact that the majority of people are straight). With that knowledge, straight romances will be (more than likely) the priority if there aren't enough resources to please everyone. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

eluvianix wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Considering Dragon Age is still primarily heteronormative in its presentation of sexuality in Thedas, I fully expect that the tastes of female qunari in general run towards male qunari.

Considering that most people in real life are heterosexual primarily, I don't see a problem with this.

Did I say there was a problem? No, you're just making things up. Again.

Considering that Thedas is a fantasy world, I don't see how any aspect of "real life" is even remotely relevent.

What's he making up, that the majority of people IRL are straight? Do you disagree?

Considering that Thedas is in a game that is being sold to the people IRL who are straight and probably prefer straight romances over gay romances, then I'd say yes, it's very relevant.

I know you probably did not mean it, but that bolded wording came off weird. You might mean, "sold to the people who are mostly straight IRL.

Yes, that is what I meant. Thanks for clarifying that.

[Xilizhra]

I'm not seeing any problem being made up. Care to name it?

After Bread said something about not having a problem with something, which was something of a non sequitur.

And the vast majority of people who will end up buying the game will be straight (due to the fact that the majority of people are straight). With that knowledge, straight romances will be (more than likely) the priority if there aren't enough resources to please everyone.

Why? That wasn't an issue in DA2. It certainly wouldn't have to be here.

[General TSAR]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

The Soviets under Stalin believed in procreation for the expressed means of creating a larger population base to draw on for industrial and military purposes.

The Nazi's believed in procreation for the expressed purpose of expanding Aryan genes and increasing the pool of soldiers for the Whermacht to draw upon and create the Aryan super-state. Procreation for non-Aryans was actively discouraged to prevent muddling of the Aryan gene pool, so much so that Nazi Germany was considered ahead of its time in contraception, actually paying non-Aryan citizens who married to wrap it on their wedding night.

Imperial Japan in the Second World War actively encouraged women to have as many children as possible to serve as the future of the military and the divine Emperor during the Second World War. Propaganda went so far as to say that the most powerful weapon in the IJM was the womb.

The ChiComs under Mao believed in procreation for the expressed purpose of creating a massive wave of reservist soldiers in their army.

The North Koreans have expressly discouraged procreation unless it is means of service to the state (which is ironic considering that they are huge contributors to sex trafficking all across the world).

It seems to hold true for the vast majority of militant and collectivist societies of the past century.

The drone just got curb stomped by logic.

[JerZey CJ]

The Woldan wrote...

Siegdrifa wrote...

I care only to try a big tall horned woman as PC.  : )

I wouldn't get my hopes up, judging by the artwork the fem Qunari seem to have the normal female body model (height and physique) + horns. 

They seem to be at least a little bit taller. Even if the comics don't show a big difference, I highly doubt BW would make them the same height and build.

[Br3admax]

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm not seeing any problem being made up. Care to name it?

After Bread said something about not having a problem with something, which was something of a non sequitur.

Never having a problem in the first place, combined with a comment about not seeing one, there is no problem. But continue. It's very becoming of you.

And the vast majority of people who will end up buying the game will be straight (due to the fact that the majority of people are straight). With that knowledge, straight romances will be (more than likely) the priority if there aren't enough resources to please everyone.

Why? That wasn't an issue in DA2. It certainly wouldn't have to be here.

/Implying that you being happy meant that everyone was. Implying that the romances were even done well for DA ][. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Plaintiff wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
What's he making up, that the majority of people IRL are straight? Do you disagree?

Okay, at this point I have to assume you're being deliberately obtuse. There's no other possible explanation.

Why am I being obtuse? Explain your problem to me.

Considering that Thedas is in a game that is being sold to the people IRL who are straight and probably prefer straight romances over gay romances, then I'd say yes, it's very relevant.

Wow.

Appeals to ridicule aren't arguments. Care to explain what you don't like about this?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

General TSAR wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

The Soviets under Stalin believed in procreation for the expressed means of creating a larger population base to draw on for industrial and military purposes.

The Nazi's believed in procreation for the expressed purpose of expanding Aryan genes and increasing the pool of soldiers for the Whermacht to draw upon and create the Aryan super-state. Procreation for non-Aryans was actively discouraged to prevent muddling of the Aryan gene pool, so much so that Nazi Germany was considered ahead of its time in contraception, actually paying non-Aryan citizens who married to wrap it on their wedding night.

Imperial Japan in the Second World War actively encouraged women to have as many children as possible to serve as the future of the military and the divine Emperor during the Second World War. Propaganda went so far as to say that the most powerful weapon in the IJM was the womb.

The ChiComs under Mao believed in procreation for the expressed purpose of creating a massive wave of reservist soldiers in their army.

The North Koreans have expressly discouraged procreation unless it is means of service to the state (which is ironic considering that they are huge contributors to sex trafficking all across the world).

It seems to hold true for the vast majority of militant and collectivist societies of the past century.

The drone just got curb stomped by logic.

It's not even logic. It's history.

[The Elder King]

I remember a tweet about the female qunari's physique, stating that it resembles a tall Olimpic swimmer.

[Siegdrifa]

eluvianix wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Considering Dragon Age is still primarily heteronormative in its presentation of sexuality in Thedas, I fully expect that the tastes of female qunari in general run towards male qunari.

Considering that most people in real life are heterosexual primarily, I don't see a problem with this.

Did I say there was a problem? No, you're just making things up. Again.

Considering that Thedas is a fantasy world, I don't see how any aspect of "real life" is even remotely relevent.

What's he making up, that the majority of people IRL are straight? Do you disagree?

Considering that Thedas is in a game that is being sold to the people IRL who are straight and probably prefer straight romances over gay romances, then I'd say yes, it's very relevant.

I know you probably did not mean it, but that bolded wording came off weird. You might mean, "sold to the people who are mostly straight IRL.

Considering how DA2 and ME3 are openly gay friendly, i don't think "because the majority of people who will buy it are straight" to be any argument toward DAI being gay friendly with qunari characters.

And i doubt the lore to be set in stone. You juste have to see the differences of lore from DAO to DA2, and then from what was said and seen, from DA2 to DAI.

It seems that DA2 had a lot of fans in the gay community, so no doubt they all anticipate the next DA game. Bioware just can't go back i guess.
It would be surprising if the qunari did not had romance possibility, straight and gay.
I mean, it is supposed an RPG after all, so i thing the player preference is important.

[Xilizhra]

/Implying that you being happy meant that everyone was. Implying that the romances were even done well for DA ][.

Certainly none of the sexual orientations were left out in terms of satisfaction, aside from asexuals who are romantically attracted to only women (unless I'm missing something else).

[dreamgazer]

Xilizhra wrote...

And the vast majority of people who will end up buying the game will be straight (due to the fact that the majority of people are straight). With that knowledge, straight romances will be (more than likely) the priority if there aren't enough resources to please everyone.

Why? That wasn't an issue in DA2. It certainly wouldn't have to be here.

Quite arguable. 

[Hellion Rex]

Can we not hold hands and sing Kumbaya?

[Spectre slayer]

hhh89 wrote...

@Spectre slayer: I was talking about LI in general, not necessarily companions.

Like I said he's gone on the record and said he doesn't like playersexual(as recently as a few days ago) and doesn't want to give us the ability to romance everyone, and again JP( Jonathan Perry) said I wouldn't say anyone can romance anyone but there's certain characters who fancy a certain type.

Which is all in the link I provided in one of my previous posts after, posting it in the new approval system thread.

There's going maybe 4 romancable companions and some npc's that won't all be bi sexual to give us more options, it has nothing to do with preference since some characters that I play as are BI rather it's based on everything they've said over the last year.

[Giant ambush beetle]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

The Woldan wrote...

Siegdrifa wrote...

I care only to try a big tall horned woman as PC.  : )

I wouldn't get my hopes up, judging by the artwork the fem Qunari seem to have the normal female body model (height and physique) + horns. 

They seem to be at least a little bit taller. Even if the comics don't show a big difference, I highly doubt BW would make them the same height and build.

Haven''t read the comics, I was talking about this concept art: 

[Xilizhra]

dreamgazer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

And the vast majority of people who will end up buying the game will be straight (due to the fact that the majority of people are straight). With that knowledge, straight romances will be (more than likely) the priority if there aren't enough resources to please everyone.

Why? That wasn't an issue in DA2. It certainly wouldn't have to be here.

Quite arguable. 

Certainly it wasn't an issue of orientation, the context that we were discussing.

[Hellion Rex]

Xilizhra wrote...

/Implying that you being happy meant that everyone was. Implying that the romances were even done well for DA ][.

Certainly none of the sexual orientations were left out in terms of satisfaction, aside from asexuals who are romantically attracted to only women (unless I'm missing something else).

I am sorry, but what?:blink:

[General TSAR]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
It's not even logic. It's history.

Man arguing with the drone is costing me precious neurons so much so I use logic and history interchangeably.

Modifié par General TSAR, 18 novembre 2013 - 02:14 .

[Hellion Rex]

Siegdrifa wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Considering Dragon Age is still primarily heteronormative in its presentation of sexuality in Thedas, I fully expect that the tastes of female qunari in general run towards male qunari.

Considering that most people in real life are heterosexual primarily, I don't see a problem with this.

Did I say there was a problem? No, you're just making things up. Again.

Considering that Thedas is a fantasy world, I don't see how any aspect of "real life" is even remotely relevent.

What's he making up, that the majority of people IRL are straight? Do you disagree?

Considering that Thedas is in a game that is being sold to the people IRL who are straight and probably prefer straight romances over gay romances, then I'd say yes, it's very relevant.

I know you probably did not mean it, but that bolded wording came off weird. You might mean, "sold to the people who are mostly straight IRL.

Considering how DA2 and ME3 are openly gay friendly, i don't think "because the majority of people who will buy it are straight" to be any argument toward DAI being gay friendly with qunari characters.

And i doubt the lore to be set in stone. You juste have to see the differences of lore from DAO to DA2, and then from what was said and seen, from DA2 to DAI.

It seems that DA2 had a lot of fans in the gay community, so no doubt they all anticipate the next DA game. Bioware just can't go back i guess.
It would be surprising if the qunari did not had romance possibility, straight and gay.
I mean, it is supposed an RPG after all, so i thing the player preference is important.

At the very least, I see the Iron Bull being bi, if he is a romanceable character. If nothing else, I would think it would be due to his Tal-Vashothness.

[AresKeith]

eluvianix wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

/Implying that you being happy meant that everyone was. Implying that the romances were even done well for DA ][.

Certainly none of the sexual orientations were left out in terms of satisfaction, aside from asexuals who are romantically attracted to only women (unless I'm missing something else).

I am sorry, but what?:blink:

Don't ask

[Hellion Rex]

General TSAR wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
It's not even logic. It's history.

Man arguing with the drone is costing me precious neurons so much so I use logic and history interchangeably.

Sometimes, it makes me feel like banging my head against a brick wall.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

General TSAR wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
It's not even logic. It's history.

Man arguing with the drone is costing me precious neurons so much so I use logic and history interchangeably.

In that case, just remember your practical center.

[Hellion Rex]

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

/Implying that you being happy meant that everyone was. Implying that the romances were even done well for DA ][.

Certainly none of the sexual orientations were left out in terms of satisfaction, aside from asexuals who are romantically attracted to only women (unless I'm missing something else).

I am sorry, but what?:blink:

Don't ask

Ah, it is one of those things? Gotcha.:P

Modifié par eluvianix, 18 novembre 2013 - 02:17 .