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[SNascimento]

In other worlds, which game best let you play Shepard as you wanted it? Allowed you to pick the right dialogue, do what you want and so on?

For me, it was ME2 by a long shot. It greatly improved the dialogue wheel from ME1. Not the tool in itself, but the how the dialogue develops. Especially investigate options. In the second game they felt way more natural. And I was ok with most things that came out my Shepard mouth. In conclusion, I could generally pick a choice that I was in agreement with. Sometimes being exactly what I wanted to say. One moment that comes to mind in the renegade speech to "save" Tali in her trial, Shepard spoke beautifully there.

But the major diferential between ME2 and the other two games are the interrupts. ME1 didn't have them and ME3 implemented them poorly, like they were an afterthought. But in ME2? Gods they were awesome, especially the renegades one. "You are working too hard", "How about good bye", "You talk too much", "There is a bomb" and others that I'm probably forgetting, all allowed me to give my Shepard a more crazy side, he was professional most of the time, but he enjoyed fighting, quite like I enjoyed playing the game. I really missed that feeling in ME3. 

How about you?

[The Night Mammoth]

The one in my head.

[dreamgazer]

Depends on the Shepard, really.

ME1 felt best with my female paragon vanguard.

ME2 felt best with my female renegade adept.

ME3 felt best with my male neutral-renegon engineer.

[spirosz]

Two.

[Siegdrifa]

Mass Effect 2  (close call)
Then Mass Effect 1
Mass Effect 3 is the last, very last ... I'm too nice to even name it in the competition. Red or Blue ? really ?

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 17 novembre 2013 - 11:45 .

[SwobyJ]

*My* Shepard? ME3.
That's a very specific question for me though

[CrazyRah]

ME2 then followed by ME1 and last ME3

[xAmilli0n]

Tough question. I think its a close call between ME2 and ME3 for my renegade leaning femshep.

Probably ME3 with proper setup in ME2.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Somewhat tricky... I would say (from best to worst):

ME2* (recruitment and loyalty missions)
ME1
ME3
ME2* (main plotline missions) - I doubt Michael, Jane, or Elizabeth would ever join Cerberus

[tanisha__unknown]

I am a bit torn between ME1 and ME2.

ME1:
+ had most dialogue options
+ you could avoid the major facepalm stuff (like asking Liara as to how their people procreated beforethey met other species), some stuff remains here

- a lot of interactions are in fact equal, even if you can choose different options, Shepard says the exact same things, I usually notice that on Virmire, after Shepard was dropped and Joker calls


ME2

+++ the interrupt system is awesome

- sometimes the game would leave you to choose between to very mediocre options, best example are the decision between handing over the collector base to terrorists and destroying it because it is an abomination,
- one thing that stuck was during Samara's recruitment mission you meet the Asari who shot the Volus and the game gives you the choice between shooting her or letting her go. What about taking her to the police?

ME3



------------------- my Shepard is not a strategic and tactical dimwitt (
- this isn't about strategy or tactics, this is about survival
- we fight or we die
- get support from the galactic community on the Citadel? The fight is here, I want to stay and throw my life away in some dumb, heroic action which will net way less than talking sense into the council
- I have to rescue the Turian military leader which will then be well disposed towards me? No, no, no, you didn't listen and you are unwilling to help us .... wait, what are you saying? if rescue the turian primarch, this supremely important military leader, he will support my cause and will likely support us? I would never have figured that out on my own
- you are the leader of the reapers, the enemy I have been chasing for years, responsible for murdering trillions and I am at your central hardware where I could do some real damage, so you want me to shoot this tube which is going to explode into my face, or electrocute myself with these electrodes or jump into that energy beam? Hmm, okay, I will do as you say and choose one)

+ there are a lot of touching moments, including the coming together as friends (not talking about Citadel DLC here, I mean something like the bottle shooting scene with Garrus, the lunch with Kaidan, the time capsule scene with Liara), which I feel fitted very well and actually reflected the relation towards your crew very well. That is something I feel the other games lacked a bit.

[Jorji Costava]

I feel like ME1 wins almost by default, since with each game, you accumulate more history for your character, more headcanon as to what he or she is like, etc. So with each passing installment, the odds of stepping on any of that stuff increase considerably.

Beyond that, there were some problematic auto-characterization moments in ME2 (being forced to work with Cerberus in the first place, etc.), as well as the well-known autodialogue problems of ME3 which tended to hamper those installments in their portrayal of the Shepard I wanted to play.

[Trentest0]

I have to say... though I dislike how they took a little too much control away from conversations in ME3... in doing so they made Shep feel less robotic. A LOT less Robotic.

It's like they told Mark and Jen "Hey guys... err... we've decided to let you put emotion into the voicing this time! So err... yay!"

The conversations just flowed a lot better. In my opinion, Shepard was the worst in ME2. I dunno... he/she rarely dropped out on the monotone voice, and Fem Shep had a pretty monotone voice in ME2. I thought they nailed it better in ME1.

[jtav]

ME1.

There's a big, dumb action hero vibe to the later installments. ME1 had fewer unavoidable oneliners and less focus on Shepard being "badass." They weren't smarter, but you could play them as more thoughtful. ME2/3 Shepard is too naked a power fantasy, and a type of fantasy I don't even have.

[Ryzaki]

Mass Effect 1. My Shepard could actually express distaste for people you're later forced to BFFs with.

ME2 isn't that bad either.

ME3 has to much BW Shep in it.

[enayasoul]

ME2 - I could play Shepard as a bad ass if I really wanted to. The interrupts were good! Lots of funny moments. The best game of the trilogy! The combat was better than ME1! And Shepard met his true love, Miranda! My MaleShep just mixed well with the team and being able to voice his dislike with working with/for the Illusive man.

ME1 - My Shepard was mostly paragon. Enjoyed the game immensily. Loved the Scifi aspect... aliens, worlds, and planets. Disliked the inventory, overheating guns, and Mako sometimes jumping all over the place.

ME3 - I liked that Shepard had a bit more emotion. He felt more real but some of the available dialogue choices did not fit my Shepard. Liara was NOT Shepard's girlfriend despite what Liara's father says. So in a way, I had less of a choice in molding my Shepard with the valuable dialogue options.

[Iakus]

ME1

ME2 forced Shepard to take stupid pills (Work for Cerberus? What could possibly go wrong! I've been dead for two years? Cool.) And ME3 forced my Shepard to feel emotions that are ooc for him. It turned my Shep into Bioware's Shep.

[Steelcan]

ME2

[JamieCOTC]

As much as I did enjoy the emotion in Shepard's dialogue in ME3, BW took away too much control. I don't know if I would say ME3 has the worst Shepard, but it didn't have MY Shepard. It's sad too as both Hale and Meer gave their best in ME3.

In ME1, I could game the Paragon/Renegade system enough to get an interesting character from that game. In ME2, some control was lost, but not enough to hurt the character, plus the added interrupts allowed me to flesh out the character. For me it's kind of a toss up between ME1 and ME2 leaning toward ME1.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Mass Effect 2, though I feel ME1 let me characterize him particularly well too.

ME3 though, especially the way I characterize Shepard, was very jarring and discomforting for me. As a fairly unemotional, practical guy, I reflect that into my Shepard, and I was very disappointed with the emotion that Shepard was pretty much being forced to feel when my Shepard is, for all intents and purposes, a sociopath.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 18 novembre 2013 - 01:10 .

[2Pac]

Mass Effect 3.

[Andrew Lucas]

Me2 absolutely (not that i hate ME3 wheel), Jamie said everything..

[KaiserShep]

It's a toss-up between ME1 and ME2. The smartass of ME2 is right up my alley, but ME1 has the best control I think.

[General TSAR]

ME1:
+Pro-Human Supremacy.....all right.
+Can rip into Squadmates like Liara, nice.

ME2:
+Yay! Cerberus! 
+Yay! Got to express Anti-AL views!
-What? I can't be non-antagonistic to Illusive Brah and can't agree with his long term objectives? GRR. 
-Why the hell did Shep just hug that squidhead. He's been antagonistic to her since forever.

ME3:
+Destroying the Toasters.
-What? I can't tell the sexbot to screw off? Grr.
-Shepard quitting Cerberus? Thanks for the railroading usual suspects.
-Shepard, Earth is getting glassed! Why the hell are you butthurt about the bimbo homeworld falling?

Modifié par General TSAR, 18 novembre 2013 - 01:19 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

KaiserShep wrote...

It's a toss-up between ME1 and ME2. The smartass of ME2 is right up my alley, but ME1 has the best control I think.

I agree, though I like the ability to be the smartass, badass, sociopathic, Cerberus supporter in ME2 marginally better than the overall control in ME1.

[Nashtalia]

the trilogy was a progression of my Shepard, so...all three