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[Icy Magebane]

Hazegurl wrote...

It must really suck for people who wanted to romance Aveline but couldn't. She was strong, dependable, grounded, not caught up in the messy debates, and had a real job.

Yeah, it did suck considering she was the only party member I was interested in.  I didn't enjoy hooking her up with some random town guard at all.  Oh well...

[Thrillian]

Spectre slayer wrote...

Thrillho_82 wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

Thrillho_82 wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

Thrillho_82 wrote...

All of the romance options will be available for the male protag. Sorry to burst anyones bubble, but as of yet we can deduce from various statements from developers that all of the LIs will be available to every protag.

While some may feel this is unrealistic (who gives a crap?) the dev's have clearly indicated that they don't have the resources to develop an incredibly wide arrange of characters, so out of fairness what they do have access to will be player sexual. Boo hoo to those who are against it!

Nope the devs have actually said the complete opposite of what you're saying, and no this has nothing to to do with preference or whether or not is realistic or anything like that since my characters are usually BI or Straight.

And for the record both Gaider and I are against player sexual but not bi sexual since they are 2 different things entirely.

2) I dislike the idea of every character being sexually available to the player. Not that it cheapens them, necessarily, but it would lend itself towards their objectification.

Use this link here
dgaider.tumblr.com/post/40361886357/on-romances-in-games

Jonathan Perry interview 

Finally, how will romancing work in the game? Is it the same kind of deal as previous BioWare games, or can anyone romance anyone?

Jp I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another.

We haven't really been able to comment on how many of your followers will be 'romance-able' or who will be 'romance-able', but we do have a whole lot of interesting combinations.

Romance is a really important part of our storytelling, and we really want to give the player a lot of options there.

www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-16239-Dragon-Age--Inquisition-Interview-%E2%80%93-Jonathan-Perry-Talks-Sex--Mounts--Demons-and-Destruction.htm


social.bioware.com/%20http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/17572518/1#17573080

 Ah. So that’s what all the anonymous tweets shouting “biphobic” at me this past weekend have been about.For those who’ve decided the “playersexual” comment is something I came up with, I’ll just say it’s not. 

There are a group of DA fans who insist on calling the DA2 romances that, however— hence why I said “whatever you want to call them” and put it in quotes. I don’t agree with the term, but there you have it. 

In terms of bisexuality and our romances, I’ve discussed them numerous times before. Here, or here, for instance. 

My saying that I don’t think players have the right to romance any character no matter who they’re playing is not the same as saying that bisexuality doesn’t exist or that BioWare will suddenly remove bisexual romances from our games.

As I’ve said before, my ideal would be to have an array of sexualities— including bisexuality— if there were enough romance plots to go around. Failing that, having bisexual romances is still the fairest way to go.

So I hear what you’re saying (as in the plural “you”), and I see I also typo’d “playersexual” in my original post— sorry about that— but the anger here is misdirected. Plain and simple.

dgaider.tumblr.com/

At no point did your quotes say that the LI's would not be available to PC's of both genders.

"As I’ve said before, my ideal would be to have an array of sexualities— including bisexuality— if there were enough romance plots to go around. Failing that, having bisexual romances is still the fairest way to go."  Exactly what I said in my initial post.

"Jp I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another.

We haven't really been able to comment on how many of your followers will be 'romance-able' or who will be 'romance-able', but we do have a whole lot of interesting combinations."

This does not mean that the LI's will not be available to each gender but may depend on the actions of the PC.

I am well aware that David Gaider would prefer to have a multitude of sexual orientations, but as my initial post says, he is willing to say that given the financial and companion limitation, the best compromise is to have all of the LI's available to every protag regardless of gender.

Sigh he's personally said he doesn't want to make all of the character's sexually available to the player, and Jonathan Perry was asked point blank will they be playersexual and he said no to be more specific they have a certain type.

What Gaider literary said was that bi sexuality would be the comprise an the fairest not playersexual if he can't give people varied sexualitys.

Those are only a portion of the quotes, you say it's the opposite but it's not that's just your personal belief based on what, I really have no idea.

Romances themselves are different now and are more based on interactions and your actions than in other games and the approval system is gone from DAI, you can't spam gifts or say a certain thing and get +5 or more like you used to, nor are they content gated.

As for possible male li companion or npc options let's see 

Bald Elf Guy mage 
Grey Warden with beard
Cullen
Iron Bull

I love it when people "sigh".

From you earlier quotes, I didn't see that JP said that each LI wouldn't be available to each player based on gender but be available based on "type", sorry but "type" doesn't spell out gender to me, it say based on the type of person the protag is, ie. based on actions and personality.

"
What Gaider literary said was that bi sexuality would be the comprise an the fairest not playersexual if he can't give people varied sexualitys."

Yeah Exactly what I said in that Gaider would prefer a multitude of sexualities, but based on their budget, making every LI available to every PC regardless of gender is the easiest and fairest approach.

Again did you miss the part where they asked perry if anyone can romance anyone and he said I wouldn't say they can romance anyone but they have certain type but you keep saying otherwise even when it's right there where eeveryone can see.

Again Gaider doesn't want playersexual nor does he want everyone to be sexually available to the protagonist, and that if he can't give varied sexualitys like Straight, Gay, Lesbian, Bi he'll go with BI SEXUAL LI'S not what you're saying.

You're arguing with them due to your extreme bias and rejecting what's in front of your eyes which really doesn't make sense, those quotes and links are there for a reason. If i were to post everything they would take up to much space.

Really, based on my extreme bias?  Please tell me what that bias is. 

I would say that you can't see what is in front of YOUR eyes.

"Again Gaider doesn't want playersexual nor does he want everyone to be sexually available to the protagonist, and that if he can't give varied sexualitys like Straight, Gay, Lesbian, Bi he'll go with BI SEXUAL LI'S not what you're saying."

Exactly what I HAVE been saying!  Why can't you understand that?  Mr. Gaider has stated that he would prefer to make characters have their own sexual identity, but given the resources, making every LI available to every PC (regardless of gender) is the easiest and most fair route.

I think the only problem here is you understanding that a person might have a sexual preference NOT dependent on gender.  A TYPE can be a thief, or chaotic, or lawful, or unlawful.  Do you understand what I am saying?  There are many different types beyond "straight, bi, or ******".

[jillabender]

accidental duplicate comment

Modifié par jillabender, 21 novembre 2013 - 06:10 .

[TeamLexana]

Was he the guy with the epic deep voice in the gameplay vid they did for the last ME3 MP dlc? Cuz I support that guy voicing EVERYTHING. lolol.

[Hellion Rex]

Oh well. Guess its time for me to abandon this thread.

[razmatazz]

Icy Magebane wrote...


Yeah, it did suck considering she was the only party member I was interested in.  I didn't enjoy hooking her up with some random town guard at all.  Oh well...

Hazegurl wrote...

It must really suck for people who
wanted to romance Aveline but couldn't. She was strong, dependable,
grounded, not caught up in the messy debates, and had a real job.

And just how many of these traits does the average Hawke have?  Yeah, I really have no problem with writers drawing the line regarding which companions the PC appeals to.

[Silfren]

Icy Magebane wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

It must really suck for people who wanted to romance Aveline but couldn't. She was strong, dependable, grounded, not caught up in the messy debates, and had a real job.

Yeah, it did suck considering she was the only party member I was interested in.  I didn't enjoy hooking her up with some random town guard at all.  Oh well...

But Donnic wasn't random, lol.  Aveline knew him for some time, possibly the entire time she'd been in the guard.  Just because we, the PC, didn't know him before we met him through her, doesn't make him random.

That was one of my favorite parts of DA2, actually, that our Companions could have separate lives of their own.  I wish we had seen a little more of that with the others.  You saw it to some extent, with references to Fenris having a sexual relationship with Isabela if you don't romance one of the two, and with the mentions of his playing card games with Donnic.  I'd have liked to seen more of that with the other companions.  Inquisition seems like it will be more akin to Origins, with a party that travels with the Inquisitor and thus the various members don't have time for independent lives of their own outside of the mission, but I'd welcome it for the added depth it would bring to the story if at all possible.

[Spectre slayer]

Thrillho_82 wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

Thrillho_82 wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

Thrillho_82 wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

Thrillho_82 wrote...

All of the romance options will be available for the male protag. Sorry to burst anyones bubble, but as of yet we can deduce from various statements from developers that all of the LIs will be available to every protag.

While some may feel this is unrealistic (who gives a crap?) the dev's have clearly indicated that they don't have the resources to develop an incredibly wide arrange of characters, so out of fairness what they do have access to will be player sexual. Boo hoo to those who are against it!

Nope the devs have actually said the complete opposite of what you're saying, and no this has nothing to to do with preference or whether or not is realistic or anything like that since my characters are usually BI or Straight.

And for the record both Gaider and I are against player sexual but not bi sexual since they are 2 different things entirely.

2) I dislike the idea of every character being sexually available to the player. Not that it cheapens them, necessarily, but it would lend itself towards their objectification.

Use this link here
dgaider.tumblr.com/post/40361886357/on-romances-in-games

Jonathan Perry interview 

Finally, how will romancing work in the game? Is it the same kind of deal as previous BioWare games, or can anyone romance anyone?

Jp I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another.

We haven't really been able to comment on how many of your followers will be 'romance-able' or who will be 'romance-able', but we do have a whole lot of interesting combinations.

Romance is a really important part of our storytelling, and we really want to give the player a lot of options there.

www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-16239-Dragon-Age--Inquisition-Interview-%E2%80%93-Jonathan-Perry-Talks-Sex--Mounts--Demons-and-Destruction.htm


social.bioware.com/%20http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/17572518/1#17573080

 Ah. So that’s what all the anonymous tweets shouting “biphobic” at me this past weekend have been about.For those who’ve decided the “playersexual” comment is something I came up with, I’ll just say it’s not. 

There are a group of DA fans who insist on calling the DA2 romances that, however— hence why I said “whatever you want to call them” and put it in quotes. I don’t agree with the term, but there you have it. 

In terms of bisexuality and our romances, I’ve discussed them numerous times before. Here, or here, for instance. 

My saying that I don’t think players have the right to romance any character no matter who they’re playing is not the same as saying that bisexuality doesn’t exist or that BioWare will suddenly remove bisexual romances from our games.

As I’ve said before, my ideal would be to have an array of sexualities— including bisexuality— if there were enough romance plots to go around. Failing that, having bisexual romances is still the fairest way to go.

So I hear what you’re saying (as in the plural “you”), and I see I also typo’d “playersexual” in my original post— sorry about that— but the anger here is misdirected. Plain and simple.

dgaider.tumblr.com/

At no point did your quotes say that the LI's would not be available to PC's of both genders.

"As I’ve said before, my ideal would be to have an array of sexualities— including bisexuality— if there were enough romance plots to go around. Failing that, having bisexual romances is still the fairest way to go."  Exactly what I said in my initial post.

"Jp I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another.

We haven't really been able to comment on how many of your followers will be 'romance-able' or who will be 'romance-able', but we do have a whole lot of interesting combinations."

This does not mean that the LI's will not be available to each gender but may depend on the actions of the PC.

I am well aware that David Gaider would prefer to have a multitude of sexual orientations, but as my initial post says, he is willing to say that given the financial and companion limitation, the best compromise is to have all of the LI's available to every protag regardless of gender.

Sigh he's personally said he doesn't want to make all of the character's sexually available to the player, and Jonathan Perry was asked point blank will they be playersexual and he said no to be more specific they have a certain type.

What Gaider literary said was that bi sexuality would be the comprise an the fairest not playersexual if he can't give people varied sexualitys.

Those are only a portion of the quotes, you say it's the opposite but it's not that's just your personal belief based on what, I really have no idea.

Romances themselves are different now and are more based on interactions and your actions than in other games and the approval system is gone from DAI, you can't spam gifts or say a certain thing and get +5 or more like you used to, nor are they content gated.

As for possible male li companion or npc options let's see 

Bald Elf Guy mage 
Grey Warden with beard
Cullen
Iron Bull

I love it when people "sigh".

From you earlier quotes, I didn't see that JP said that each LI wouldn't be available to each player based on gender but be available based on "type", sorry but "type" doesn't spell out gender to me, it say based on the type of person the protag is, ie. based on actions and personality.

"
What Gaider literary said was that bi sexuality would be the comprise an the fairest not playersexual if he can't give people varied sexualitys."

Yeah Exactly what I said in that Gaider would prefer a multitude of sexualities, but based on their budget, making every LI available to every PC regardless of gender is the easiest and fairest approach.

Again did you miss the part where they asked perry if anyone can romance anyone and he said I wouldn't say they can romance anyone but they have certain type but you keep saying otherwise even when it's right there where eeveryone can see.

Again Gaider doesn't want playersexual nor does he want everyone to be sexually available to the protagonist, and that if he can't give varied sexualitys like Straight, Gay, Lesbian, Bi he'll go with BI SEXUAL LI'S not what you're saying.

You're arguing with them due to your extreme bias and rejecting what's in front of your eyes which really doesn't make sense, those quotes and links are there for a reason. If i were to post everything they would take up to much space.

Really, based on my extreme bias?  Please tell me what that bias is. 

I would say that you can't see what is in front of YOUR eyes.

"Again Gaider doesn't want playersexual nor does he want everyone to be sexually available to the protagonist, and that if he can't give varied sexualitys like Straight, Gay, Lesbian, Bi he'll go with BI SEXUAL LI'S not what you're saying."

Exactly what I HAVE been saying!  Why can't you understand that?  Mr. Gaider has stated that he would prefer to make characters have their own sexual identity, but given the resources, making every LI available to every PC (regardless of gender) is the easiest and most fair route.

I think the only problem here is you understanding that a person might have a sexual preference NOT dependent on gender.  A TYPE can be a thief, or chaotic, or lawful, or unlawful.  Do you understand what I am saying?  There are many different types beyond "straight, bi, or ******".

Bi Sexually=/= Playersexual 

The fairest option to them is having some not all be bi, having them all bi is essentially playersexual which isn't something he's fond of.

I have no bias, straight, gay, lesbian, bi I don't care about stuff like that, if the romance interests me I'll play as them nor do I care much about it in real life.

No I understand it perfectly, they don't want to go the playersexual route and make everyone sexually available to the player, that was just a test run and they will go to a mix of dao and ME3 if they can but if not then some will be straight and some will be bi.

Ideally given enough time and resources they would go straight, lesbian, gay, bi but if they can't then some will be bi that's all.

You're taking this way to personally and flipping out over a pointless technicality, just because they all won't be available to the player sexually, just because they all won't be romancable doesn't mean there won't be bi options in the game nor does it mean there won't be a good total of options.

No ones saying that at all, if you don't like what's there or you misunderstand what it says it's not my problem it's yours so calm down already.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 21 novembre 2013 - 05:59 .

[Silfren]

eluvianix wrote...

Oh well. Guess its time for me to abandon this thread.

No way!  *nails Eluvianix to the flooring*

So, how 'bout them hot bits of manflesh what keep following the Inquisitor about?

[Fredward]

^^ It takes two seconds to trim a quote pyramid dude. Two seconds.

Modifié par Foopydoopydoo, 21 novembre 2013 - 05:55 .

[Thrillian]

Spectre slayer wrote...



Bi Sexually=/= Playersexual 

I have no bias, straight, gay, lesbian, bi I don't care about stuff like that, if the romance interests me I'll play as them nor do I care much about it in real life.

No I understand it perfectly, they don't want to go the playersexual route and make everyone sexually available to the player, that was just a test run and they will go to a mix of dao and ME3 if they can but if not then some will be straight and some will be bi.

You're taking this way to personally and flipping out over a pointless technicality, just because they all won't be available to the player sexually, just because they all won't be romancable doesn't mean there won't be bi options in the game nor does it mean there won't be a good total of options.

No ones saying that at all, if you don't like what's there or you misunderstand what it says it's not my problem it's yours so calm down already.

I'm sorry but I don't think I am taking it personally at all, I just happen to thing you are wrong.  I am perfectly calm, not sure why that was even relevant in your post.

All I am saying is that each LI will be available to each PC based on gender.  Wha said PC does in a playthrough might affect any LIs affections toward the PC, but it still has nothing to do with gender (as of my initial post).

[Thrillian]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

^^ It takes two seconds to trim a quote pyramid dude. Two seconds.

Nobody has that kind of time!!  This s*%t is super important man!

[Hellion Rex]

Silfren wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Oh well. Guess its time for me to abandon this thread.

No way!  *nails Eluvianix to the flooring*

So, how 'bout them hot bits of manflesh what keep following the Inquisitor about?

But...the OP wanted to just talk about ladies...

[jillabender]

eluvianix wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

I believe he has been possessed by a spirit of trolling.

The evil snark demon Gaider hath possessed the poor mortal.

I support "sexy musketeer mustache guy" appearing in DA:I – especially if he is both possessed by a trolling demon and voiced by Allan!

https://pbs.twimg.co...AlzRc.jpg:large

Modifié par jillabender, 21 novembre 2013 - 06:10 .

[Hellion Rex]

jillabender wrote...

jillabender wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

I believe he has been possessed by a spirit of trolling.

The evil snark demon Gaider hath possessed the poor mortal.

I support "sexy musketeer mustache guy" appearing in DA:I – especially if he is both possessed by a trolling demon and voiced by Allan!

https://pbs.twimg.co...AlzRc.jpg:large

That escalated quickly. Although I do not know if Allan wants his picture up here. You might want to take that down now.

[DooomCookie]

OP, Gaider didn't say they would be released Valentines. He said it's a cool idea or something along those lines. I don't think he has any control over how they release info.

[jillabender]

eluvianix wrote...

That escalated quickly. Although I do not know if Allan wants his picture up here. You might want to take that down now.

Don't worry – I asked him before posting the photo and he gave his permission.

Modifié par jillabender, 21 novembre 2013 - 06:16 .

[Hellion Rex]

jillabender wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

That escalated quickly. Although I do not know if Allan wants his picture up here. You might want to take that down now.

Don't worry - I asked for his permission beforehand.

Ok, then by all means, carry on!

[Thrillian]

jillabender wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

I believe he has been possessed by a spirit of trolling.

The evil snark demon Gaider hath possessed the poor mortal.

I support "sexy musketeer mustache guy" appearing in DA:I – especially if he is both possessed by a trolling demon and voiced by Allan!

https://pbs.twimg.co...AlzRc.jpg:large

Edit: One shouldn't post while drunk!

Not that I think you aren't magnificent! YOu are!

Modifié par Thrillho_82, 21 novembre 2013 - 06:34 .

[Allan Schumacher]

That is stone cold sober. Just very silly.

Seems appropriate for this thread.

[AresKeith]

My mustache is better than yours Allan

*runs*

[Killdren88]

AresKeith wrote...

My mustache is better than yours Allan

*runs*

Theres no moustache like my father's moustache. That's the nicest moustache in town!

[Shadow Fox]

David Gaider wrote...

Xbox360Girl1321 wrote...
I really want Cole as a companion and LI

...you know that Cole is functionally a child, right?

And a zombie I think...

[Reznore57]

So the thread title changed...
Allan is the new mustache guy?
I'm so confused.
And no one draw a marvelous fake beard on Allan picture yet?

[Allan Schumacher]

Day 21. I tried for more foreboding/intense but failed. I think I succeeded at "sleepy" however >.>
https://twitter.com/...9786368/photo/1



EDIT: Though probably the last of my moustache pictures....  Probably not most appropriate but felt it worked for the silly.  I like the silly.

I also do not think I am a female (or male) romance option.  Unless writers aren't telling me things....

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 21 novembre 2013 - 07:42 .