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#51
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DeinonSlayer wrote...

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If you have any kind of heroism, you'll side with Tali.

David is that you?

Shh, shhh! You'll summon him!


XD

But I mean "heroism!" lololol.

OT: ...Okay REALLY REALLY GAME? It finally think I got a polite yet firm way to nip Ashley's romance in the bud (during her asking if you're okay with her religion I picked the "I'm your commanding officer not your moral compass." And when she goes "just my officer." I pick "keep it professional." So now I'm all excited thinking I'm gonna get the "Yes sir." ending convo (which means she's not romancing you). But nope. Still got skipper. FML.

...I hate ME1's romance ninja skills so much.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 19 novembre 2013 - 06:02 .


#52
DeinonSlayer

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Ryzaki wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

If you have any kind of heroism, you'll side with Tali.

David is that you?

Shh, shhh! You'll summon him!


XD

OT: ...Okay REALLY REALLY GAME? It finally think I got a polite yet firm way to nip Ashley's romance in the bud (during her asking if you're okay with her religion I picked the "I'm your commanding officer not your moral compass." And when she goes "just my officer." I pick "keep it professional." So now I'm all excited thinking I'm gonna get the "Yes sir." ending convo (which means she's not romancing you). But nope. Still got skipper. FML.

...I hate ME1's romance ninja skills so much.

Oh, that's easy. In the conversation where she expresses concern about the aliens on board and what ship systems they should have access to, choose the "You're out of line!" dialogue option. Shepard pulls rank, and the conversation ends. You can be on friendly terms with her for the rest of the game without risk of getting ninja'd.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...*snip*


I know but I wanted to play a Shepard that understood said concerns. (Thus why I'm looking for another romance ender that's hopefully not douchey.)

I found one but it requires me be in a Liaramance (which this Shep is so using it isn't so bad but I'm looking for one for my single Shep for later usage :P) and the other loses me a codex. I thought this one was gold one, I get the codex, I don't sound like a douche. But nooooooooo. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 19 novembre 2013 - 06:09 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...*snip*


I know but I wanted to play a Shepard that understood said concerns. (Thus why I'm looking for another romance ender that's hopefully not douchey.)

I found one but it requires me be in a Liaramance (which this Shep is so using it isn't so bad but I'm looking for one for my single Shep for later usage :P)

Gotcha. Yeah, I wanted to do the same, but alas, that was the only way I could keep Ashley alive (back when she was a compelling character) without romancing her or the squid.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 19 novembre 2013 - 06:26 .


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Ravensword wrote...

I thought we'd gotten over these Geth vs. Quarian arguments, but some people won't be satisfied until it becomes as ubiquitous as mage vs. templar threads.


Wait........







....there are Templar geth?

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 19 novembre 2013 - 06:11 .


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Of course. Those darn Quarians were using blood magic just to win their war. The Geth simply turned to the Maker for guidance.

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Hazegurl wrote...

Of course. Those darn Quarians were using blood magic just to win their war. The Geth simply turned to the Maker for guidance.

Does that make Legion an actual demon from the Fade?

...and who filled the Fade with gray cubes?

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...*snip*


I know but I wanted to play a Shepard that understood said concerns. (Thus why I'm looking for another romance ender that's hopefully not douchey.)

I found one but it requires me be in a Liaramance (which this Shep is so using it isn't so bad but I'm looking for one for my single Shep for later usage :P)

Gotcha. Yeah, I wanted to do the same, but alas, that was the only way I could keep Ashley alive (back when she was a compelling character) without romancing her.


What boggles me is why that *isn't* a romance ender. Shep very nicely tells her he's her commanding officer and he's not interested.

WHY WHY DOES THAT CONTINUE THE ROMANCE.

True still wasn't as bad as getting renedouche ninja'd by Liara. Least with Ashley I never went "wait what? wait...WHAT. I said I wasn't interested! (well until today :? ) There has to be a way to get out of this...no. No no no no no. The save from when I said no was 8 hours ago? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" (That was when I was crazy enough to pick up Liara first D: )


DeinonSlayer wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Of
course. Those darn Quarians were using blood magic just to win their
war. The Geth simply turned to the Maker for guidance.

Does that
make Legion an actual demon from the Fade?

...and who filled the Fade with gray cubes?


Wait...wouldn't the Quarians be the templars and the geth be the mages? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 19 novembre 2013 - 06:19 .


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Look into the other thread. I do not feel like typing it all again,

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Of course. Those darn Quarians were using blood magic just to win their war. The Geth simply turned to the Maker for guidance.

Does that make Legion an actual demon from the Fade?

...and who filled the Fade with gray cubes?


That would make his name pretty spot on.

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ImaginaryMatter wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Of course. Those darn Quarians were using blood magic just to win their war. The Geth simply turned to the Maker for guidance.

Does that make Legion an actual demon from the Fade?

...and who filled the Fade with gray cubes?


That would make his name pretty spot on.


Great now I'm thinking about Legion from Persona.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Great now I'm thinking about Legion from Persona.


The face-ball?

Edit: I love the internet:

Image IPB

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 19 novembre 2013 - 06:22 .


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CronoDragoon wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Great now I'm thinking about Legion from Persona.


The face-ball?


Yeah.

I remember getting that bastard in a fusion accident. I was not pleased.

Edit: Ugh sexy dance that thing. :sick:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 19 novembre 2013 - 06:24 .


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I'd probably pick the Geth. They are just way more of a sympathetic party.

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Obadiah wrote...

I'd probably pick the Geth. They are just way more of a sympathetic party.

Your Shepard looks far too much like mine to think that way. :bandit:

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CronoDragoon wrote...

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Yes.

Shepard without his ol' Red and Blue is quite the struggling guy. (EDIT: But yes, occasionally inspiring, like the Crowd Rally in ME2)
And without his Green (Cure, Geth Upgrade.., more?...), he still has gotta make some tough choices (treatment of characters around fake cure, geth/quarian choice, ..Destroy/Control).


Honestly what made me think of this again was finally watching Paragon Lost. I actually enjoyed it a lot, and holy crap that ending choice (and what Vega actually chose) I was stunned. It was only after the movie that I remembered Vega had told Shepard he'd saved the intel (and as it turns out didn't tell Shepard about the asari part!).


Paragon...lost. :whistle:
But since the data didn't do squat, I guess Vega lost, in general. Heh.

EDIT: And I'm Paragon.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 19 novembre 2013 - 07:05 .


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Normally I would choose Geth, because I like them more than the quarians, but I also can't see Tali jumping from the cliff, so I would perheps choose the quarians.

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I'd pick the Quarians if it came down to it. Why? Because you can always make more Geth.

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SwobyJ wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...
Yes.

Shepard without his ol' Red and Blue is quite the struggling guy. (EDIT: But yes, occasionally inspiring, like the Crowd Rally in ME2)
And without his Green (Cure, Geth Upgrade.., more?...), he still has gotta make some tough choices (treatment of characters around fake cure, geth/quarian choice, ..Destroy/Control).


Honestly what made me think of this again was finally watching Paragon Lost. I actually enjoyed it a lot, and holy crap that ending choice (and what Vega actually chose) I was stunned. It was only after the movie that I remembered Vega had told Shepard he'd saved the intel (and as it turns out didn't tell Shepard about the asari part!).


Paragon...lost. :whistle:
But since the data didn't to squat, I guess Vega lost, in general. Heh.

EDIT: And I'm Paragon.


Yeah I had to laugh at that. got all those people killed for nothing.

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Obadiah wrote...

I'd probably pick the Geth. They are just way more of a sympathetic party.


But but Tali is too gigglesquee to kill her...

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gigglesquee

*shudders*

Never again.

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 19 novembre 2013 - 07:03 .


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Quarians because destroy.
And one of them can be recreated.

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My canon Shep got Tali exiled and rewrote the Geth heretics so peace was never an option for me. I side with the Quarians and I'll try to explain why.

Legion: "Yes, but with free will. Each Geth unit would be a true intelligence. We would be alive, and we could help you."

The obvious subtext here is that they are not alive now. And that they will not be "alive" or a "true intelligence" until after they receive the reaper upgrade. So while many people seem to take it as a choice between two races, it isn't. It's a choice between one living race and one race that could become living if you let it destroy the other. But at the moment is not truly intelligent or alive.

If you've watched enough Star Trek or Dr Who you should know that creating a new life/race at the cost of sacrificing an already existing life/race is simply morally wrong.

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That's why they have to trick us into Synthesis ^_^

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Cobalt2113 wrote...

My canon Shep got Tali exiled and rewrote the Geth heretics so peace was never an option for me. I side with the Quarians and I'll try to explain why.

Legion: "Yes, but with free will. Each Geth unit would be a true intelligence. We would be alive, and we could help you."

The obvious subtext here is that they are not alive now. And that they will not be "alive" or a "true intelligence" until after they receive the reaper upgrade. So while many people seem to take it as a choice between two races, it isn't. It's a choice between one living race and one race that could become living if you let it destroy the other. But at the moment is not truly intelligent or alive.

If you've watched enough Star Trek or Dr Who you should know that creating a new life/race at the cost of sacrificing an already existing life/race is simply morally wrong.


Part of the reason I dislike the Rannoch ark is because of the Geth retcons (and I think they are retcons, 98% conifident) and a lot of what Legion says regarding the Reaper upgrades and the Geth are part of that retcon. The ME2 Legion did believe the Geth were alive and disagreed with the use of Reaper upgrades to change themeselves.