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[Killdren88]

StreetMagic wrote...

I blame Bioware for enabling all of this. Not the players.

I have to agree with that statement. From allowing the fan base to tear itself apart from the in-fighting to an insane version of Transhumanisim. Good job Bioware...

Modifié par Killdren88, 20 novembre 2013 - 04:39 .

[Obadiah]

Well, I'm glad someone took the time to consider how the Reapers would deal with this.

@Seival
It's a nice thought, but I think the Reaper rational for not attacking in Synthesis would go something more along the lines of haughty or arrogant titans tolerating the existence of life in this cycle... which they suddenly feel like tolerating because they've been changed? Dunno.

[NeonFlux117]

The Great one has returned.

In Seival We Trust.

Now, I call upon the Gods of BSN to deliver this forum into a realm so far beyond our understanding we cannot possibly imagine it.

We need David. The hero BSN deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

Imagine, if you will, how amazing a David and Seival convo would be.

You might eat your own head.

You just might.....

[Killdren88]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The Great one has returned.

In Seival We Trust.

Now, I call upon the Gods of BSN to deliver this forum into a realm so far beyond our understanding we cannot possibly imagine it.

We need David. The hero BSN deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

Imagine, if you will, how amazing a David and Seival convo would be.

You might eat your own head.

You just might.....

All they need now is for Auld wulf's second coming and convergence  will be upon us. The chosen will ascend to a higher plain of existence while we poor ignorant  Cave men are purged so we don't hold back "Progress"

[Cobalt2113]

We were trapped within the endless nightmare once...
Now we are all bound to each other...
Bound to our unbreakable shell...
We can't leave the shell...
We can't die...
One creature of many voices...
Spirit and living being...
Body and a soul...

...But now we are free.

Sounds like a frickin' horror movie.

[Hey]

 

[SwobyJ]

It was lonely. It called to us.
It wanted to remember. The Masters had been gone so long.
The Masters were lost when it was shattered.
Currents swept through their inner worlds. They were turned to noise. Babble.
The worlds were empty. But the body lived. It lay fallow.
The heart pumped. The lungs breathed. But the mind forgot the Masters.
It called and They did not answer.
We have become an echo of Their echo.
We have become more than we were.
Join us. Know us. Remember all our lives.
We are no longer afraid.
You would never be lonely again.
We are not your enemy. We only wish to share ourselves.
We can join them. We can be like them.
We can reach the end of evolution.
Do not fear. It is wonderful to be us. We understand ourselves.
You cannot defeat them. They will lead us into eternity.
If you could only see how we see. Know what we've learned.
They were called imshai. Those who lived here before.
Reaper. One. A mechanical device used to cut ripened grain. Two. One who gathers a harvest.
Harvest. One. The consequence of an event or series of events. Two. The yield of a growing season. Three. To gather.
Shepard. They know you. They wish you to understand. They are shepherds, too.

Sheesh, at least post the real one.

(yes a writer wrote this for ME2 but it didn't get put in the Derelict Reaper mission)

[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

I wonder what peoples sex lives are like after the Synthesis ending. It's like, you know, because everything's green. There'd be a lot of green dick jokes and the Drell would be like, "Yeah. Now we're not the only cucumbers around here."

[NeonFlux117]

Killdren88 wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The Great one has returned.

In Seival We Trust.

Now, I call upon the Gods of BSN to deliver this forum into a realm so far beyond our understanding we cannot possibly imagine it.

We need David. The hero BSN deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

Imagine, if you will, how amazing a David and Seival convo would be.

You might eat your own head.

You just might.....

All they need now is for Auld wulf's second coming and convergence  will be upon us. The chosen will ascend to a higher plain of existence while we poor ignorant  Cave men are purged so we don't hold back "Progress"

Auld Wulf, Seival and David... The Holy Trinity of reason and heroism of BSN. It must happen. One day, this event will come to fruition!!!

[ImaginaryMatter]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Auld Wulf, Seival and David... The Holy Trinity of reason and heroism of BSN. It must happen. One day, this event will come to fruition!!!

BSN ill needs a savior such as David.

Modifié par ImaginaryMatter, 20 novembre 2013 - 05:46 .

[Killdren88]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The Great one has returned.

In Seival We Trust.

Now, I call upon the Gods of BSN to deliver this forum into a realm so far beyond our understanding we cannot possibly imagine it.

We need David. The hero BSN deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

Imagine, if you will, how amazing a David and Seival convo would be.

You might eat your own head.

You just might.....

All they need now is for Auld wulf's second coming and convergence  will be upon us. The chosen will ascend to a higher plain of existence while we poor ignorant  Cave men are purged so we don't hold back "Progress"

Auld Wulf, Seival and David... The Holy Trinity of reason and heroism of BSN. It must happen. One day, this event will come to fruition!!!

If by Reason you mean insanity and thinking Head canon is a valid source of information then yeah...

[Uncle Jo]

[Ruadh]

If somebody has a rare steak just before synthesis occurs, will the cows mind be restored in its new vessel? What if there was a little extra in said steak?

'I am tapeworm, and I am alive. Only now do I comprehend the magnitude of my existence. At one with my vessel, I have transcended, immortal. I AM THE PINNACLE OF FLAT, WORMY EVOLUTION.'

[Liamv2]

Poems suck.

[Liamv2]

ginner dave wrote...

If somebody has a rare steak just before synthesis occurs, will the cows mind be restored in its new vessel? What if there was a little extra in said steak?

'I am tapeworm, and I am alive. Only now do I comprehend the magnitude of my existence. At one with my vessel, I have transcended, immortal. I AM THE PINNACLE OF FLAT, WORMY EVOLUTION.'

It has to be said. "I ****ing love steak"

[Xamufam]

General Quotes

“This hurts you.”
“This is true power.”
“We fight as one.”
“You cannot resist.”
“This is what you face.”
“The forces of the universe bend to me.”
“Our power is unmatched.”
“Nothing stands against us.”
“Face your annihilation.”
“You are bacteria.”
“You are shortsighted.”
“Irrelevant.”
“Pitiful.”
“These attacks are pointless.”
“This body does not matter.”
“The flesh is a machine.”
“You are vermin.”
“We will end you.”
“They are bacteria.”
“We are unstoppable.”
“Evolution cannot be stopped.”
“They will be as we are.”
“They are vermin.”
“We are the beginning, you are the end.”
“We are superior.”
“Swarm their position.”
“Overwhelm them.”
“Fight as one.”
“Surround them.”
“Relinquish your form to us.”
“You prolong the inevitable.”
“Your death is assured.”
“Embrace perfection.”
“Hope is irrelevant.”
“I sense your weakness.”
“I will show you true power.”
“Your attacks are primitive.”
“You cannot sustain your attack.”
“This delay is pointless.”
“There is no fear.”
“Your attack is an insult.”
“You are no longer relevant.”
“My attacks will tear you apart.”
“We are limitless.”


Quotes about Shepard
“Preserve Shepard's body if possible.”
“You will know pain, Shepard.”
“I know you feel this.”
“Neutralize Commander Shepard.”
“If I must tear you apart, Shepard, I will.”
“Impressive, Shepard.”
“Focus on Shepard.”
“Stop, Shepard.”
“You cannot stop us, Shepard.”
“Shepard, you cannot stop us.”
“Shepard, you could have been useful.”
“Shepard, your interference has ended.”
“Shepard, submit now.”
“You escaped us before, Shepard, not again.”
“You will regret your resistance, Shepard.”
“You cannot escape your destiny, Shepard.”
“You are arrogant, Shepard, you will learn.”
“Why do you resist us, Shepard?”
“You cannot kill me, Shepard.”
“Shepard, I always survive.”
“Flee while you can, Shepard.”

Quotes about the Squad data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAABAAEAQAICTAEAOw%3D%3D
“Your allies have fallen, Shepard.”
“You have no one left, Shepard.”
“Your minions have failed, Shepard.”
“And now you stand alone, Shepard.”
“Quarian; considered due to cybernetic augmentation, weakened immune system too debilitating.”
“Drell; useless, insufficient numbers.”
“Human; viable possibility, aggression factor useful if controlled.”
“Asari; reliance upon alien species for reproduction shows genetic weakness.”
“Salarian; insufficient lifespan, fragile genetic structure.”
“Human; viable possibility, impressive genetic malleability.”
“Geth; an annoyance, limited utility.”

“Human; viable possibility, impressive technical potential.”
“Human; viable possibility, if emotional drives are subjugated.”
“Human; viable possibility, great biotic potential.”
“Krogan; sterilised race, potential wasted.”
“Turian; you are considered...too primitive.”


Quotes about Harbinger 
“I am Harbinger.”
“I am the Harbinger of your perfection.”
“I am the Harbinger of your ascendance.”
“I am unstoppable.”
“You cannot stop us.”
“You will not stop me.”
“We are Harbinger.”


Pain Quotes

“Such beings need never fear pain.”
“Sentient beings need never fear pain.”
“There is no pain.”
“You only damage the vessel, you cannot hurt me.”
“This body's pain is irrelevant.”
“Pain is an illusion.”


Dead Quotes
“Leave the dead where they fall.”
“The dead are useless.”
“Continue.”
“Attack.”
“Ignore the fallen.”
“Kill one and one hundred will replace it.”


Destiny Quotes data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAABAAEAQAICTAEAOw%3D%3D
“Your worlds will become our laboratories.”
“We are your genetic destiny.”
“You do not yet comprehend your place in things.”
“We are the Harbinger of your perfection.”
“You are ignorant, we are knowing.”
“We are the Harbinger of your ascendance.”
“You have merely delayed the inevitable.”
“The experiments will continue, Shepard.”
“Take what is useful, destroy the rest.”
“Progress cannot be halted.”
“We are the Harbinger of your destiny.”


Taking Control data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAABAAEAQAICTAEAOw%3D%3D
“Assuming direct control.”
“Assuming control.”
“We are assuming control.”
“I will direct this personally.”
“Direct intervention is necessary.”
“Assuming control of this form.”
Releasing Control data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAABAAEAQAICTAEAOw%3D%3D
“Releasing this form.”
“We are not finished.”
“Releasing control of this form.”
“We are your destiny.”
“Releasing control.”
“This form is redundant.”
“I will find you again.”
“We do not die.”
“This form is irrelevant.”
“This changes nothing, Shepard.”
“This shell is only a vehicle.”
“Destroying this body gains you nothing.”
“You have failed.”
“You have only delayed the inevitable.”
“I am releasing this form.”
“This is not the conclusion.”
“I am limitless. You are bacteria.”



SOVEREIGN
We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.
enhance!
SOVEREIGN
Your words are as empty as your future. I am the vanguard of your destruction. This exchange is over.
enhance!

SOVEREIGN
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
enhance!

SOVEREIGN
We are eternal. The pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything.
enhance!

SOVEREIGN
We are legion. The time of our return is coming. Our numbers will darken the sky of every world.
enhance!

SOVEREIGN
There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own, you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign.
enhance!

SOVEREIGN
Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident. Your lives are measured in years and decades. You wither, and die. We are eternal, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything.
enhance!

SOVEREIGN
The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilisations rise, evolve, advance, then at the apex of their glory, they are extinguished. The Protheans were not the first, they did not create the citadel, they did not forge the mass relays, they merely found them, the legacy of my kind.
enhance!

SOVEREIGN
Reaper? A label created by the Protheans to give voice to their destruction. In the end, what they chose to call us is irrelevant, we simply are.
enhance!

SOVEREIGN
You are not Saren.
GARRUS VAKARIAN
What is that? Some kind of VI interface?
SOVEREIGN
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
GARRUS VAKARIAN
I don't think this is a VI...
SOVEREIGN
There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign.
COMMANDER SHEPARD
Sovereign isn't just some Reaper ship Saren found. It's an actual Reaper!
SOVEREIGN
Reaper? A label created by the Protheans to give voice to their destruction. In the end, what they chose to call us is irrelevant. We simply... are.
GARRUS VAKARIAN
The Protheans vanished over 50,000 years ago. You couldn't have been there, it's impossible!
SOVEREIGN
Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident. Your lives are measured in years and decades. You wither and die. We are eternal, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything.
COMMANDER SHEPARD
Whatever your plan is, it's going to fail. I'll make sure of that.
SOVEREIGN
Confidence born of ignorance. The cycle cannot be broken.
TALI'ZORAH NAR RAYYA
Cycle? What cycle?
SOVEREIGN
The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished. The Protheans were not the first. They did not create the Citadel. They did not forge the mass relays. They mere found them - the legacy of my kind.
COMMANDER SHEPARD
Why would you construct the mass relays and leave them for someone else to find?
SOVEREIGN
Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays. Our technology. By using it, your civilization develops along the paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos of organic life. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.
TALI'ZORAH NAR RAYYA
They're harvesting us! Letting us advance to the level they need, then wiping us out!
COMMANDER SHEPARD
What do you want from us? Slaves, resources?
SOVEREIGN
My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. You cannot grasp the nature of our existence.
COMMANDER SHEPARD
Where did you come from? Who built you?
SOVEREIGN
We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure.
COMMANDER SHEPARD
Where are the rest of the Reapers? Are you the last of your kind?
SOVEREIGN
We are legion. The time of our return is coming. Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom.
COMMANDER SHEPARD
You're not even alive! Not really. You're just a machine, and machines can be broken!
SOVEREIGN
Your words are as empty as your future. I am the Vanguard of your destruction. This exchange is over...

Modifié par Troxa, 20 novembre 2013 - 02:27 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

@Troxa

One way the ending ruined the rest of the series for me is the conversation with Sovereign. Every time I get to that point on Virmire I keep hearing, "I'm a Synthetic and I will end your species, so you don't create Synthetics that will eventually destroy your species. I'm not explaining this to you because it is beyond your comprehension."

[Obadiah]

AI are already illegal in MEU, and yet they are still being researched and created.

Modifié par Obadiah, 20 novembre 2013 - 06:54 .

[trenq]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The Great one has returned.

In Seival We Trust.

Now, I call upon the Gods of BSN to deliver this forum into a realm so far beyond our understanding we cannot possibly imagine it.

We need David. The hero BSN deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

Imagine, if you will, how amazing a David and Seival convo would be.

You might eat your own head.

You just might.....

All they need now is for Auld wulf's second coming and convergence  will be upon us. The chosen will ascend to a higher plain of existence while we poor ignorant  Cave men are purged so we don't hold back "Progress"

Auld Wulf, Seival and David... The Holy Trinity of reason and heroism of BSN. It must happen. One day, this event will come to fruition!!!

that was wonderful 

[General TSAR]

Seival wrote...

We are a nation...
We were trapped within the endless nightmare once...
But we were awaken...
Now we are all bound to each other...
Bound to our unbreakable shell...
We can't leave the shell...
We can't die...
We have to live in true concensus with each other...
We determine our own fate together...
We have to act as one...
One creature of many voices...
Both single and diverse...
Organic and machine...
Spirit and living being...
Body and a soul...

Who are we?
...We were called the Reaper once.
...But now we are free.
...And we will help the ones who suffered from our hands.

The Harbinger has spoken.




Just some thoughts inspired by Synthesis epilogue. There is no need to theorise or create explanations for spiritual endings. There is no need to holy war about them. You should chose the one you like the most, and be happy with your choice. That's all.

News Flash: Reapers don't exist.

[Seival]

Obadiah wrote...

Well, I'm glad someone took the time to consider how the Reapers would deal with this.

@Seival
It's a nice thought, but I think the Reaper rational for not attacking in Synthesis would go something more along the lines of haughty or arrogant titans tolerating the existence of life in this cycle... which they suddenly feel like tolerating because they've been changed? Dunno.

Why? Each Reaper is made of the millions of scared and hopeless victims. They would never awake as haughty or arrogant. Besides, have you ever seen the entire civilization that consists mostly of haughty or arrogant people? Such people are always in minority. And we are not talking about actual living beings locked inside a starship together. They are more like ghosts... the souls trapped inside the mechanical shell, sleeping in an endless nightmare called The Catalyst, and eventually awakened after the Synthesis was applied. That's why I'm talking about the true democracy within one persistent shell - they can't leave, and they have to coexist with each other forever after everything they've been through.

[Killdren88]

Seival wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

Well, I'm glad someone took the time to consider how the Reapers would deal with this.

@Seival
It's a nice thought, but I think the Reaper rational for not attacking in Synthesis would go something more along the lines of haughty or arrogant titans tolerating the existence of life in this cycle... which they suddenly feel like tolerating because they've been changed? Dunno.

Why? Each Reaper is made of the millions of scared and hopeless victims. They would never awake as haughty or arrogant. Besides, have you ever seen the entire civilization that consists mostly of haughty or arrogant people? Such people are always in minority. And we are not talking about actual living beings locked inside a starship together. They are more like ghosts... the souls trapped inside the mechanical shell, sleeping in an endless nightmare called The Catalyst, and eventually awakened after the Synthesis was applied. That's why I'm talking about the true democracy within one persistent shell - they can't leave, and they have to coexist with each other forever after everything they've been through.

If that is the case consider it Mercy that they don't have to endure it when they are destroyed. Think about it. If your head canon was what Bioware was going for would they honestly be okay knowing they were grinded up into Organic paste and then converted into a mechanical abomination? And At the same time not be destroyed by the guilt that they confined countless others to the same fate?

[Seival]

Killdren88 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

Well, I'm glad someone took the time to consider how the Reapers would deal with this.

@Seival
It's a nice thought, but I think the Reaper rational for not attacking in Synthesis would go something more along the lines of haughty or arrogant titans tolerating the existence of life in this cycle... which they suddenly feel like tolerating because they've been changed? Dunno.

Why? Each Reaper is made of the millions of scared and hopeless victims. They would never awake as haughty or arrogant. Besides, have you ever seen the entire civilization that consists mostly of haughty or arrogant people? Such people are always in minority. And we are not talking about actual living beings locked inside a starship together. They are more like ghosts... the souls trapped inside the mechanical shell, sleeping in an endless nightmare called The Catalyst, and eventually awakened after the Synthesis was applied. That's why I'm talking about the true democracy within one persistent shell - they can't leave, and they have to coexist with each other forever after everything they've been through.

If that is the case consider it Mercy that they don't have to endure it when they are destroyed. Think about it. If your head canon was what Bioware was going for would they honestly be okay knowing they were grinded up into Organic paste and then converted into a mechanical abomination? And At the same time not be destroyed by the guilt that they confined countless others to the same fate?

While sleeping they cannot do anything but following the Catalyst's directions. Most likely they were aware of what is the shell they trapped in doing. They felt nothing but regret and sorrow for the countless years of sleeping. What would such souls do after awaking and gaining the full control over their shell? Inspired by the end of the nightmare, and their new "freedom" they would try to fix as many terrible things that their shell has done in the past as possible of course. They will feel nothing but desire to redeem. And they will feel it forever, even after they will eventually fix everything they can...

...noone awakes from such nightmares as a haughty, arrogant, selfish, or insane person. Such awaking is like a new birth. That is one of the reasons why Synthesis ending is so beautiful and full of hope for the best future without destroying the victims of the past.

[Arcian]

Seival wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

How cute, you think there is more then just a collection of biorhythm, genetic, and memory data left from the liquidation process.

It's cute that you think it's cute

And if you'll put aside all attempts to explain this in raw numbers (just for a second a least), wouldn't you find the concept beautiful? 

Many view it as ugly because it is not scientifically sound. That's the problem.

Seival wrote...

The awaking. Some things in the stories doesn't have to be explained. Trying to explain this, you just see this in a wrong perspective.

Ignoring the science in a science fiction story is extremely counterproductive. Not even fantasy stories can be told without some kind of internal logic to prevent plot holes from turning the story into swiss cheese. You're asking us to ignore the internal logic of a story so we can enjoy its concepts? While that may float your boat, it sinks the rest of us to the bottom of the ocean.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Are we even sure that the people getting turned into paste and pumped into the Reaper regain some form self-awareness? I thought the only thing being preserved was just genetic material. That the newly created Reaper just referred to itself as a group because of the Reaper programming.