Alistair was trained as a Templar before he was recruited as a Grey Warden. But do we know where he trained?
If it was the Circle, shouldn't he be a bit more familiar with the people in it (even potentially the Mage Warden)? Or do Templars get trained elsewhere?
Alistair's training
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Posté 20 novembre 2013 - 06:38
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Duncan recruited him at a tournament in Denerim. Templars came "from all over Thedas," but the Knight Commander apparently didn't want Alistair to compete. Since it'd be weird to drag the kid from Redcliffe to Denerim just to bench him, I've always assumed he was sent away to Denerim, to the cathedral there, for training. Since Eamon has an estate in the city, it still fits with the arl visiting him sometimes after he was initially sent there.
That said, I don't think there's any conclusive evidence for him having trained in Denerim, in Redcliffe, or somewhere else.
He did attend a Harrowing, according to his own dialogue, which implies at least a brief stay at the Circle. I've always thought trainees might cycle through there as part of their late training, but aren't entirely trained there. We don't see any evidence of young templar instruction in the Tower like we do for mage instruction, implying that it's more of a duty station and less of a training facility.
That said, I don't think there's any conclusive evidence for him having trained in Denerim, in Redcliffe, or somewhere else.
He did attend a Harrowing, according to his own dialogue, which implies at least a brief stay at the Circle. I've always thought trainees might cycle through there as part of their late training, but aren't entirely trained there. We don't see any evidence of young templar instruction in the Tower like we do for mage instruction, implying that it's more of a duty station and less of a training facility.
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Posté 20 novembre 2013 - 07:55
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That's good enough for my headcanon as to why Alistair never acknowledges anyone in the Circle. Thanks.
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Posté 20 novembre 2013 - 08:26
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There was a bit of discussion on this topic on Tumblr a while back, and when I mentioned that I'd always assumed Alistair was trained in Denerim, it was pointed out that the "author" of the "journal entry" that tells the story of his recruitment is from Redcliffe, and that the entry ends with the following:
Nothing was heard from Alistair after that night, but such is not unusual when it comes to Grey Wardens. What is known is that the templar barracks are far, far quieter without him.
with the inference being drawn that Alistair had been late of Redcliffe, as well.
(I still prefer to think he was in Denerim, but I'm a rebel. ;D)
Nothing was heard from Alistair after that night, but such is not unusual when it comes to Grey Wardens. What is known is that the templar barracks are far, far quieter without him.
with the inference being drawn that Alistair had been late of Redcliffe, as well.
(I still prefer to think he was in Denerim, but I'm a rebel. ;D)
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Posté 20 novembre 2013 - 11:22
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He was present at one harrowing, which seems like it would take place in the tower
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Posté 21 novembre 2013 - 12:26
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The Templars are something of a religious military order, though their "battleground" is the Circle and their "enemies" are mages. Since they specially train (and indoctrinate) Templars into staying constantly alter and prepared for ANY sign of mage corruption or attack, I doubt they're going to send all their new, young, inexperienced, untrained, raw recruits in the Circle where they could easily be wiped out or taken hostage by more seasoned mages. I don't know of any military that trains their raw recruits right on the front lines, but rather teaches them combat, survival, basics, and prepares them for what they need to know before putting them in situations where they can get killed.
In fact, in the game, every Templar in the tower seems like they've completed their training, are part of the order, and are specially equipped to deal with mages should there be a problem. Having a bunch of initiates who are merely learning how to use swords and how to read the scriptures seems like it would undermine Templar athority. Show the mages young men learning to be Templars, and it makes said Templars seem weak, human, and beatable. They're supposed to come across as these indominable, impersonable metal walls to intimidate mages into thinking they have no chance to escape, so don't try anything funny. Again, seeing children and adolescents who have not completed their training, taken their vows, or officially joined the order would undermine that image like crazy.
As for Alistair witnessing the Harrowing, it's possible they have older recruits who are coming close to taking their vows witness such a thing so they have *some* experience and real-world knowledge before taking up the sword. Like an apprenticeship, or job-shadowing, or whatever you call it. Alistair basically reveals that he is a Templar in everything but name (like someone who did all their veterinary school training but simply missed the final medical license exam), so it's likely they gave him and others some experience before having him officially join the order.
In fact, in the game, every Templar in the tower seems like they've completed their training, are part of the order, and are specially equipped to deal with mages should there be a problem. Having a bunch of initiates who are merely learning how to use swords and how to read the scriptures seems like it would undermine Templar athority. Show the mages young men learning to be Templars, and it makes said Templars seem weak, human, and beatable. They're supposed to come across as these indominable, impersonable metal walls to intimidate mages into thinking they have no chance to escape, so don't try anything funny. Again, seeing children and adolescents who have not completed their training, taken their vows, or officially joined the order would undermine that image like crazy.
As for Alistair witnessing the Harrowing, it's possible they have older recruits who are coming close to taking their vows witness such a thing so they have *some* experience and real-world knowledge before taking up the sword. Like an apprenticeship, or job-shadowing, or whatever you call it. Alistair basically reveals that he is a Templar in everything but name (like someone who did all their veterinary school training but simply missed the final medical license exam), so it's likely they gave him and others some experience before having him officially join the order.
