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[Lord Nutfork]

I finally unlocked the Lancer.
 
O.k. this is another non-thermal clip weapon that has a long reload time (like the Particle Rifle).

Before I take this into Gold (should I try this in Gold?), what is the BSN strategy for using this class of overheating weapons? Do you just blast away until the gun overheats and take cover until it reloads?

Or do you get good at knowing when to stop shooting just before overheat and cool down? I am not sure if I can get good at watching the ammo counter. 

Or do you just shoot in short bursts and play it safe???

Thanks!

[Aquaman 40oz]

Take the mag mod and don't run it dry.

[Tokenusername]

Short controlled bursts.

If you make sure most of your shots actually hit your target you won't use enough ammo to overheat often.

[AustereLemur799]

All I know is that it needs a stability mod on it. Whether you use that from your consumables or on your weapon mods is up to you.

Assuming you use a stability mod in your gear; I'd use an ammo mod (boosts your clip ammo allowance) plus an extended barrell to boost your weapon damage. Then you can use an armour piercing ammo mod on your weapon.

[AustereLemur799]

Aquaman 40oz wrote...

Take the mag mod and don't run it dry.

Yup; bad things happen if you run dry...

[Creator Limbs]

use it on a caster. Do not use it on a ROF increase class until you can handle the ammo amount. Don't fire it forever, it is not the forever gun.

[chcknwng]

Don't use it until you get it to X.

[IllusiveManJr]

I was disappointed I never unlocked it. Well over twenty million credits spent and only a Venom I to show for it.

[Lord Nutfork]

wngmv wrote...

Don't use it until you get it to X.

Ouch, you are killing me!

I have already maxed out my Rares. I cannot image how long it would take to max this from Level 1 to Level X. 

[Lord Nutfork]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

I was disappointed I never unlocked it. Well over twenty million credits spent and only a Venom I to show for it.

I know how you feel. I was pretty shocked when it showed up in my Arsenal pack. I was expecting more level 4 equipment....

[mybudgee]

AustereLemur799 wrote...

All I know is that it needs a stability mod on it. Whether you use that from your consumables or on your weapon mods is up to you.

Extended clip + Penetration all day

[VolusVolusVolusVolusVOLUSVOLUSVOLUS]

1. Use the magazine modification. This is imperative on ALL overheating based weapons.

2. Don't spray.

3. Use a Volus (This is applicable to everything in ME3).

[Bladedrummer]

As other people said, always use the magazine upgrade. Other than that, just keep an eye on your ammo and stop firing when it goes below 20. Try to aim carefully and make sure most of your shots hit and you should be fine.

[Kinom001]

Magazine upgrade and a kit with Marksman or Adrenaline Rush. Activate either when the clip runs out and it'll begin to refill.

[Kirchroa Alaaf]

wngmv wrote...

Don't use it until you get it to X.

That's bad advice..... Lancer is great from L1! Just use the extended magazine ... The thing is to get in a flow, if you know the flow you hardly ever run out of ammo. 

And if you do run out of ammo, press reload fast and furious... 

[Dovakiin_N7]

wngmv wrote...

Don't use it until you get it to X.

[Heldarion]

Don't expect too much from it.

[HusarX]

1) Extra mag mode.

2) Use it on casters, and shoot between cooldowns.
My favourite:
QFE > cryo blast > shoot > incinerate
AA > warp > shoot > throw

3) Ammo Awareness™

Modifié par HusarX, 21 novembre 2013 - 08:35 .

[Catastrophy]

Try to get a feel for it

Mag Mod

Headshotz

Ammo Powers

[sabreracer]

Mag upgrade is the most important.

Caster classes and try to remember it's not a Typhoon. So keep the Daka Daka to shortish bursts. I was used to the CSMG so I hardly ever run it dry.

If you're firing between spamming powers then you shouldn't run out.

[Cirvante]

Don't.

[Aquaman 40oz]

Lord Nutfork wrote...

I finally unlocked the Lancer.
 
O.k. this is another non-thermal clip weapon that has a long reload time (like the Particle Rifle).

Before I take this into Gold (should I try this in Gold?), what is the BSN strategy for using this class of overheating weapons? Do you just blast away until the gun overheats and take cover until it reloads?

Or do you get good at knowing when to stop shooting just before overheat and cool down? I am not sure if I can get good at watching the ammo counter. 

Or do you just shoot in short bursts and play it safe???

Thanks!

Long answer:
Totally Gold viable at lvl. 1.  Short bursts as has been said.  Best on a char. that has weapon damage boosts.  Small spread - it's not a headshot  machine but that's your best place of aim given the choice.

Most if not all mooks on Gold are dead before the mag is empty.  On bosses you need to exercise discipline.  The fact you never need to visit ammo boxes for your gun does not mean you can spend all day exposed to enemy fire.
It's a great gun on Gold even at the first level.  But not a great gun on every char at that point. 

I'd take a GPR X over the Lancer 1 on a caster if you wanted an assault rifle.  The Lancer trades the Harrier ammo considerations for more spread at longer ranges. 

Modifié par Aquaman 40oz, 21 novembre 2013 - 09:20 .

[LemurFromTheId]

Heldarion wrote...

Don't expect too much from it.

This.

Many people suggesting caster kits... The thing is that CSMG is superior to Lancer in general, and that's especially true on casters, because of its lighter weight and its ammo regen starting immediately after firing.

Lancer benefits a lot from accuracy and stability bonuses and its infinite ammo is useful if you're not using grenades, so the old guard turians are a natural choice (Lancer works surprisingly well with Marksman, though you'll definitely want a high level Lancer for that). Sadly there are just so many better weapons for them...

As for how to manage overheating... well, always aim never to overheat the thing in the first place. With practice you'll develop a feel for how long you can shoot it and still keep it cool. Stay calm, ration your fire and avoid the urge to spray and pray when the going gets tough - that's when it tends to overheat, and that's also when it hurts you the most.

[GodLovesATrier]

By the way if you overheat and you can't wait 5 secs for it to cooldown you can immediately begin recharge by using a thermal clip pack. You still have to wait for it to completely refill but you can skip the 5-sec "burning gun" animation.