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Drew Karpyshyn's thoughts on where he thinks Next ME could go.


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 http://media66.podbean.com/pb/122ddc3e947d96b0024a6911a713f312/528e50f9/data1/blogs24/365299/uploads/Episode108.mp3
Skip to 0:35:00 where he's asked about where he'd like things to go.

One of the things he mentions is that he "would like to see a Mass Effect story where the relays no longer work". So he has heard that about the ending but I thought it was interesting to hear.

Just FYI but feel free to share your thoughts.

Modifié par Linkenski, 21 novembre 2013 - 06:48 .


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Prequel? * shiver *

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Parallel universe pls

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Argentoid wrote...

Parallel universe pls


Eww.

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Pull Shepard out of the Rubble Bioware. That is all I ask. Pull Shepard out and I'll accept new protag story or whatever you have to offer. Just please. Pull Shepard out of the rubble.

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Linkenski wrote...
One of the things he mentions is that he "would like to see a Mass Effect story where the relays no longer work". So he has heard that about the ending but I thought it was interesting to hear.


I've been pushing for that since before the EC.

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Killdren88 wrote...

Pull Shepard out of the Rubble Bioware. That is all I ask. Pull Shepard out and I'll accept new protag story or whatever you have to offer. Just please. Pull Shepard out of the rubble.


Do it yourself.

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It would be interesting. Nothing in the EC mandates that the Relays are fixed quickly after the Reaper War.

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Obadiah wrote...

It would be interesting. Nothing in the EC mandates that the Relays are fixed quickly after the Reaper War.


The only thing that gives me the impression that they are is Hackett narrating high EMS Destroy. He's already a geezer to begin with, and yet he's optimistic about the progress done.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 21 novembre 2013 - 08:14 .


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How in the world could the ME universe exist without mass relays? Every race would be confined to its home world and the few systems around it. The Galaxy is rather large. A story involving only one race? That is not ME at all.

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Why would relays be fixed? The EC slides are hopeful virtual dreams of the future.

I'll back away now.

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cap and gown wrote...

How in the world could the ME universe exist without mass relays? Every race would be confined to its home world and the few systems around it. The Galaxy is rather large. A story involving only one race? That is not ME at all.


They're not exactly necessary. They're just the best option. Even without the relays, Patrick Weekes tried to inject some optimism about the scenario here:

Galactic civilization will rebuild. The mass relays were not necessary for interstellar flight. Remember, what
does it say in the Codex about the speed of ships? That's right, 12 lightyears per (day? hour? minute?). And that's only the cruising speed, not the maximum speed.

People have never needed to research basic FTL improvements before because they have mass relays. With the
relays gone, new technology will increase that speed. Additionally, the element zero cores of the dead/controlled Reapers can be used to improve FTL drives. Starflight will continue using conventional FTL.


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cap and gown wrote...

How in the world could the ME universe exist without mass relays? Every race would be confined to its home world and the few systems around it. The Galaxy is rather large. A story involving only one race? That is not ME at all.


Um, from what I read, it only means that fast and cheap travel and discovery is gone.

Every trip becomes a voyage (days to weeks, turning into weeks to months, or years if crossing the galaxy), and possibly a dangerous one because you may have to travel through uncharted/unknown systems in the process. As you repair relays enough to travel, you'd be able to return to 'older' level locations.
Example - we reach Palaven and reestablish their relay; after this point, we can use the relay to return faster to, I dunno, Earth. During the journey, we find new locations and even species, that either didn't have a relay near them or had an inactive/undiscovered one.

I'd assume that it would start off at Earth with the united fleet around it. Multiple species selection is quite possible.


Of course if we were riding a Reaper (or at least adopt enough of their tech) this would all be faster...

OK I'M REALLY GOING NOW

Modifié par SwobyJ, 21 novembre 2013 - 08:39 .


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The Milky Way is 100-120k light years in diameter.

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Linkenski wrote...

 http://media66.podbean.com/pb/122ddc3e947d96b0024a6911a713f312/528e50f9/data1/blogs24/365299/uploads/Episode108.mp3
Skip to 0:35:00 where he's asked about where he'd like things to go.

One of the things he mentions is that he "would like to see a Mass Effect story where the relays no longer work". So he has heard that about the ending but I thought it was interesting to hear.

Just FYI but feel free to share your thoughts.

Seriously! What is up with everyone's vendetta against the relays? They're the most iconic objects in the entire franchise. Destroying all relays would be like destroying all lightsabers in Star Wars.

Modifié par Arcian, 21 novembre 2013 - 08:40 .


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Really, I root for a company that is currently good at video game rpgs to end up with the Mass Effect IP and release a game that is designed to replace Mass Effect 3, imported character and all. That solves all problems as far as I'm concerned.

BioWare should stick to multiplayer games now, which is what they've become better at.

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Arcian wrote...

Linkenski wrote...

 http://media66.podbean.com/pb/122ddc3e947d96b0024a6911a713f312/528e50f9/data1/blogs24/365299/uploads/Episode108.mp3
Skip to 0:35:00 where he's asked about where he'd like things to go.

One of the things he mentions is that he "would like to see a Mass Effect story where the relays no longer work". So he has heard that about the ending but I thought it was interesting to hear.

Just FYI but feel free to share your thoughts.

Seriously! What is up with everyone's vendetta against the relays? They're the most iconic objects in the entire franchise. It's like destroying all lightsabers in Star Wars.


"relays no longer work"

He never said no relays at all. What's wrong with learning how to fix them? I remember a certain Matriarch that possibly gave a form of foreshadowing in wanting the asari to make their OWN relays.


To answer the 'vendetta' part:

1)It allows a greater sense of exploration if they're gone, at least for now
2)It allows more dire drama, like a galaxy full of Tuchankas/Rakhanas/Rannochs. Gives us conflict on a more local scale.
3)Losing them, even temporarily, means we've lost the 'chains' that the Reapers put us on. Instead of going down familiar paths, learning the relays ourselves will lead to unique takes on Reaper/Eezo tech and possibly lead Mass Effect to go beyond the Milky Way galaxy itself.

In short, it allows plot growth instead of 'let's just see old stuff rehashed'.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 21 novembre 2013 - 08:44 .


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SwobyJ wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Linkenski wrote...

 http://media66.podbean.com/pb/122ddc3e947d96b0024a6911a713f312/528e50f9/data1/blogs24/365299/uploads/Episode108.mp3
Skip to 0:35:00 where he's asked about where he'd like things to go.

One of the things he mentions is that he "would like to see a Mass Effect story where the relays no longer work". So he has heard that about the ending but I thought it was interesting to hear.

Just FYI but feel free to share your thoughts.

Seriously! What is up with everyone's vendetta against the relays? They're the most iconic objects in the entire franchise. It's like destroying all lightsabers in Star Wars.


"relays no longer work"

He never said no relays at all. What's wrong with learning how to fix them? I remember a certain Matriarch that possibly gave a form of foreshadowing in wanting the asari to make their OWN relays.


Because everyone in the MEU are retards

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You know they'd just replace the relays with advanced FTL technology that permits ships to just zip across the galaxy without them. The defining characteristic of the MEU is the fact that it spans across multiple worlds spread far apart across the galaxy. Without it, it'd just be a story set on a single planet, and that is not how this franchise functions, so nuts to that.

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SwobyJ wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Linkenski wrote...

 http://media66.podbean.com/pb/122ddc3e947d96b0024a6911a713f312/528e50f9/data1/blogs24/365299/uploads/Episode108.mp3
Skip to 0:35:00 where he's asked about where he'd like things to go.

One of the things he mentions is that he "would like to see a Mass Effect story where the relays no longer work". So he has heard that about the ending but I thought it was interesting to hear.

Just FYI but feel free to share your thoughts.

Seriously! What is up with everyone's vendetta against the relays? They're the most iconic objects in the entire franchise. It's like destroying all lightsabers in Star Wars.


"relays no longer work"

He never said no relays at all. What's wrong with learning how to fix them? I remember a certain Matriarch that possibly gave a form of foreshadowing in wanting the asari to make their OWN relays.


Indeed.

Imagine the galaxy is fragmented for centuries before they figured out how to repair the relays afterwards.  Imagine travelling to old, fmailiar places again.

What would Eden Prime look like?

How about Omega?

Rannoch?

Illium?

What would centuries of isolation have done to change those worlds?

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AresKeith wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Linkenski wrote...

 http://media66.podbean.com/pb/122ddc3e947d96b0024a6911a713f312/528e50f9/data1/blogs24/365299/uploads/Episode108.mp3
Skip to 0:35:00 where he's asked about where he'd like things to go.

One of the things he mentions is that he "would like to see a Mass Effect story where the relays no longer work". So he has heard that about the ending but I thought it was interesting to hear.

Just FYI but feel free to share your thoughts.

Seriously! What is up with everyone's vendetta against the relays? They're the most iconic objects in the entire franchise. It's like destroying all lightsabers in Star Wars.


"relays no longer work"

He never said no relays at all. What's wrong with learning how to fix them? I remember a certain Matriarch that possibly gave a form of foreshadowing in wanting the asari to make their OWN relays.


Because everyone in the MEU are retards


They didn't make their own because:

1)Galactic stability was difficult enough
2)More relays mean more dangers (rachni, new species)
3)They had the tech but the relays were perfectly working themselves. All we'd need to do is reach the asari again and swipe the tech they've clearly been hoarding for political and societal reasons

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Wouldn't even need centuries, but yeah.

Even decades and war aftermath would change a lot. Familiar enough, sure, but enough to introduce drama and unique circumstances with every planet visit. Also certain forms of tech advancement and allowances for much more varied forms of government and character designs.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 21 novembre 2013 - 08:48 .


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SwobyJ wrote...

 All we'd need to do is reach the asari again and swipe the tech they've clearly been hoarding for political and societal reasons


And that will be in a few hundred years, by which time we will have forgoten why we were looking for them in the first place. More likely they would find us.

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cap and gown wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

 All we'd need to do is reach the asari again and swipe the tech they've clearly been hoarding for political and societal reasons


And that will be in a few hundred years, by which time we will have forgoten why we were looking for them in the first place. More likely they would find us.


You know, sometimes in stories, spaceships just get better and better by adopting tech along the way. Those Reapers seem pretty fast.

EDIT: I'm sorry, I didn't mean sarcasm there. I really do mean that there's probably dozens of ways that we'd be able to upgrade our ship to go faster than any other Council Cycle ship, turning trips to new locations into weeks at most, not years. We then work on the relay and there you go.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 21 novembre 2013 - 08:50 .


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Let me repeat: the Milky Way is 100-120k LIGHT YEARS in diameter.