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[AlanC9]

Rasofe wrote...
No, Half Life 2 is postapocalyptic.

If you like. I'm not really clear on when something becomes post-apocalyptic as opposed to just plain apocalyptic, but it isn't important.

If we can expect HL3 to also be a postapocalyptic world, I don't want ME4 to be because it won't reach the same impact. One of the best selling points of Mass Effect was its size... a postapocalyptic world that's galaxy wide? That's going to achieve nothing.

I'm not really sure what you're getting at here.

Modifié par AlanC9, 22 novembre 2013 - 10:16 .

[Rasofe]

I meant that trying to achieve too many genres at the same time has historically led to more failures than successes.

[AlanC9]

OK, but I don't see why a sequel would necessarily use post-apocalyptic genre tropes even if it is technically in a post-apocalyptic setting.

Let's say the game is set 60 years after Destroy. There used to be mass relays. Now there aren't, but they've still got starships better than anything in Star Trek. Can't get to Thessia anymore, probably, but there are plenty of other worlds in reach. Cities were in ruins years ago. Now they're not. MEU without relays is just a regular SF setting.

Unless the writers actually wanted to do a post-apocalyptic game set immediately after ME3, of course, in which case they could just leave everything in ruins.

[Sion1138]

SwobyJ wrote...

Yeah Sion. That's why I hope they sell the next game properly enough to me.

If they somehow go:

"Oh you heard about the First Contact War, but did you know THIS happened in it? And THIS? Wider implications!"

No thank you.

Certainly this should be a given, but that's speaking from the perspective of the 'old-timers', by which I mean people whom BioWare attracted through games like Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Knights, KotOR, Jade Empire and Mass Effect.

These were games aimed at a niche market, created by a smaller group people who shared the passions of their audience towards a particular kind of experience.

Things may have irrevocably changed since then. Remember, EA does not do niche markets, they aim to reach a broader audience as evidenced in Mass Effect 3.

They may determine that there is greater profit potential in going the other way, perhaps even losing the core fanbase in favor of a semi-mainstream audience. Certainly this would water down the potential for any future critical controversy.

Modifié par Sion1138, 22 novembre 2013 - 11:06 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

StreetMagic wrote...

I wouldn't mind post apocalyptic, but only as a Batarian. With a pet Varren. And a 69 Camaro.

In the Southwestern US? With a Barrett M82 and an AK-47? and plenty of bullets, and throwing knives. That would be cool.

[David7204]

Half Life doesn't really have many of the earmarks of post-apocalyptic fiction.

[Uncle Jo]

Prequel. No way it could go otherwise.

[Rasofe]

David7204 wrote...

Half Life doesn't really have many of the earmarks of post-apocalyptic fiction.

Aren't you the guy people are warning me not to take seriously?
What are the earmarks of post apocalyptic fiction, then?

[dreamgazer]

Rasofe wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Half Life doesn't really have many of the earmarks of post-apocalyptic fiction.

Aren't you the guy people are warning me not to take seriously?
What are the earmarks of post apocalyptic fiction, then?

Oh, lord. 

[What a Succulent Ass]

WATCHING THIS SPACE WITH BATED BREATH.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I'll get some popcorn ready.

[spirosz]

dreamgazer wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Half Life doesn't really have many of the earmarks of post-apocalyptic fiction.

Aren't you the guy people are warning me not to take seriously?
What are the earmarks of post apocalyptic fiction, then?

Oh, lord. 

[Steelcan]

spirosz wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Half Life doesn't really have many of the earmarks of post-apocalyptic fiction.

Aren't you the guy people are warning me not to take seriously?
What are the earmarks of post apocalyptic fiction, then?

Oh, lord. 

[ruggly]

dreamgazer wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Half Life doesn't really have many of the earmarks of post-apocalyptic fiction.

Aren't you the guy people are warning me not to take seriously?
What are the earmarks of post apocalyptic fiction, then?

Oh, lord. 

[Rasofe]

What's the gif mean?
How come I get so much attention for asking a question?
Seriously guys, you're making BSN a damn minefield.

[AlanC9]

Sion1138 wrote...

Certainly this should be a given, but that's speaking from the perspective of the 'old-timers', by which I mean people whom BioWare attracted through games like Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Knights, KotOR, Jade Empire and Mass Effect.

These were games aimed at a niche market, created by a smaller group people who shared the passions of their audience towards a particular kind of experience.

Let's not overstate this. Bio always wanted to be a big developer rather than a niche outfit, and they've never been all that loyal to whatever the self-proclaimed true RPG fans think are the defining features of the RPG genre. Every couple of years Bio commits some sort of atrocity against the RPG fans, starting when BG2 abolished overland map exploration.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Rasofe wrote...

Seriously guys, you're making BSN a damn minefield.

It's quite late for that, sir. Accept your lashes with honour.

[Rasofe]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Seriously guys, you're making BSN a damn minefield.

It's quite late for that, sir. Accept your lashes with honour.

Thaat's not how it works. When social norms take a turn for the worse, it's the duty of those with good judgement to make a stand.

Modifié par Rasofe, 22 novembre 2013 - 11:28 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

Rasofe wrote...

Thaat's not how it works. When social norms take a turn for the worse, it's the duty of those with good judgement to make a stand.

Yes.

They stand up straight when the whip cracks their back.

[Steelcan]

Rasofe wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Seriously guys, you're making BSN a damn minefield.

It's quite late for that, sir. Accept your lashes with honour.

Thaat's not how it works. When social norms take a turn for the worse, it's the duty of those with good judgement to make a stand.

norms?  good judgement?

My good sir this is BSN

[ruggly]

Rasofe wrote...

What's the gif mean?
How come I get so much attention for asking a question?
Seriously guys, you're making BSN a damn minefield.

But that's half the fun!

[Jukaga]

Either high ems destroy is canon and Shep lives or let ME die and do something else. We don't want this to turn into the Star Wars EU.