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[Rasofe]

Wait, so there's fans outside of BSN?

[Deathsaurer]

Are... are we starting that "real fans" thing again?

[GreyLycanTrope]

I don't think so.

[Darks1d3]

Deathsaurer wrote...

Are... are we starting that "real fans" thing again?

Hmm, I wasn't around for that. Tell me about it, sounds amusing. Or would that be opening pandoras box?

[Deathsaurer]

Darks1d3 wrote...

Hmm, I wasn't around for that. Tell me about it, sounds amusing. Or would that be opening pandoras box?

Bunch of people running around saying you aren't a real fan if you don't like X. That lasted a few months.

[Darks1d3]

 So...alot of people turned into david for a few months? Damn, can't believe I missed that. Hate being the n00b.

[KaiserShep]

StreetMagic wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Wait, so there's fans outside of BSN?

I used to be one.

I was a fan before BSN, but it wasn't until BSN that I learned the true meaning of the word cynicism.

[Rusty Sandusky]

KaiserShep wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Wait, so there's fans outside of BSN?

I used to be one.

I was a fan before BSN, but it wasn't until BSN that I learned the true meaning of the word cynicism.

This is why I don't frequent the ME3 boards anymore.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

KaiserShep wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Wait, so there's fans outside of BSN?

I used to be one.

I was a fan before BSN, but it wasn't until BSN that I learned the true meaning of the word cynicism.

Wait until you become a curmudgeon.

[AlanC9]

StreetMagic wrote...

It really would be in everyone's interest if they avoided the whole thing.

How is it in my interest?

[dreamgazer]

AlanC9 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

It really would be in everyone's interest if they avoided the whole thing.

How is it in my interest?

... it'll save you from the headache of dealing with spillover fan-rage shenanigans once it's released?

[AlanC9]

Sion1138 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...
Certainly this should be a given, but that's speaking from the perspective of the 'old-timers', by which I mean people whom BioWare attracted through games like Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Knights, KotOR, Jade Empire and Mass Effect.

These were games aimed at a niche market, created by a smaller group people who shared the passions of their audience towards a particular kind of experience.

Let's not overstate this. Bio always wanted to be a big developer rather than a niche outfit, and they've never been all that loyal to whatever the self-proclaimed true RPG fans think are the defining features of the RPG genre. Every couple of years Bio commits some sort of atrocity against the RPG fans, starting when BG2 abolished overland map exploration.

I never said that they meant to remain small, simply that this was the situation at the time. As they became larger, changes occured and for the most part I didn't mind them until their last two outings, which is when I felt a disturbance in the force.

I'm not saying they shouldn't change, just that certain fans, like perhaps me, will at some point no longer get what they expect. This is how things go.

When was it that Bio was "small," exactly? And small relative to what? And what exactly has changed about the last two outings that wasn't true for, say, ME2 or Jade Empire or NWN?

[AlanC9]

dreamgazer wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

It really would be in everyone's interest if they avoided the whole thing.

How is it in my interest?

... it'll save you from the headache of dealing with spillover fan-rage shenanigans once it's released?

Sure, but if I didn't like fan-rage shenanigans, would I hang out here?

[ImaginaryMatter]

KaiserShep wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Wait, so there's fans outside of BSN?

I used to be one.

I was a fan before BSN, but it wasn't until BSN that I learned the true meaning of the word cynicism.

Maybe I should leave before it's to late.

[SilJeff]

KaiserShep wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Wait, so there's fans outside of BSN?

I used to be one.

I was a fan before BSN, but it wasn't until BSN that I learned the true meaning of the word cynicism.

Sadly, I agree. Oh well, all the Mass Effect boards I visit have one aspect I don't "care for". BSN= depressingly cynical but is active and does have the ocasional thread that doesn't become another "b-tch about the ending" topic. GameFAQs= talks about nothing but the one thing I rarely play, which is the MP (it doesn't bother me, I just rarely can join conversations since I am not a MP expert). IGN= basically dead, but is not depressingly negative.

Maybe things will change once ME3 is no longer the newest ME

Modifié par SilJeff, 23 novembre 2013 - 06:41 .

[Rasofe]

So far I'm just a little uneasy with the fact that it's like everyone already knows each other here.

[Texhnolyze101]

I have no interest in a prequel or any alternate universe nonsense either.

[Sion1138]

AlanC9 wrote...

When was it that Bio was "small," exactly? And small relative to what? And what exactly has changed about the last two outings that wasn't true for, say, ME2 or Jade Empire or NWN?

They have two studios now and are a division of a much larger company, surely this is another level compared to anything that came before. 

I couldn't point the finger towards what exactly has changed, I just know that I used to eat up everything they put out up until a certain point, so it's something but I can't be more specific.

Perhaps I have changed more than they have.

[Sion1138]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

I have no interest in a prequel or any alternate universe nonsense either.

I detest the idea of a prequel as much as you do, but why not an alternate universe?

It would be the same but new, the sense of mystery and wonder would be back and you wouldn't have to worry about anything that happened before.

Modifié par Sion1138, 23 novembre 2013 - 12:15 .

[Vinchisters]

I love how every thread on BSN turns into an endings-bashing black hole and how almost every BSNer thinks that Bioware is the devil and Casey Hudson and Mac Walters are hitler and stalin. Shows how butthurt they truly are.
Also, a strange thought came to mind recently - Bethesda, the god of the nerds, developer of the great but bug-possesed Fallout 3, responded to the same situation that BW found itself in, that is, they made an ending that disapointed a large number of fans. Instead of fixing their mistake for free, like Bioware did, they charged 10 dollars for Broken Steel and the nerds STILL adored them, whereas the "fans'' of Mass Effect still rip into the franchise and it's developer every chance they get.
If that's not butthurt then I don't know what is.

/endrant

[cap and gown]

Have you been on the Skryim forums? It is nothing but non-stop "Skyrim Sucks" "Morrowind Rules!" I basically avoided the general forum like the plague and stuck to the spoilers sections which has some of that, but also more about gameplay hints and strategy.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Rasofe wrote...

So far I'm just a little uneasy with the fact that it's like everyone already knows each other here.

We've been here for a while bud.

Vinchisters wrote...

I love how every thread on BSN turns into an endings-bashing black hole and how almost every BSNer thinks that Bioware is the devil and Casey Hudson and Mac Walters are hitler and stalin. Shows how butthurt they truly are.
Also, a strange thought came to mind recently - Bethesda, the god of the nerds, developer of the great but bug-possesed Fallout 3, responded to the same situation that BW found itself in, that is, they made an ending that disapointed a large number of fans. Instead of fixing their mistake for free, like Bioware did, they charged 10 dollars for Broken Steel and the nerds STILL adored them, whereas the "fans'' of Mass Effect still rip into the franchise and it's developer every chance they get.

When has anyone in this thread said anything about Hudson and Walters being evil or bioware being the devil tho? Broken Steel actually fixed the mistake though and added additional gameplay, the EC fixed a few minor problems not everything.

If that's not butthurt then I don't know what is.

/endrant

Sounds like you're projecting dat butthurt since not everyone is validating your opinion tbh.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 23 novembre 2013 - 02:31 .